It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by AndyMayhew
So you don't understand anything even about your own bunk science? The study you put up shows a failure to create contrails even in perfect conditions. Like I said: your bunk science was thought up by morons overnight to explain chemtrails. There is no study that backs up your bunk. But you're not really an advocate for the bunk, you're just a parrot of it, without any understanding.
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
Originally posted by Y3K89
reply to post by Thorazine
*claps*
ummm
did i perhaps offend you in any manner
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by AndyMayhew
So you don't understand anything even about your own bunk science? The study you put up shows a failure to create contrails even in perfect conditions. Like I said: your bunk science was thought up by morons overnight to explain chemtrails. There is no study that backs up your bunk. But you're not really an advocate for the bunk, you're just a parrot of it, without any understanding.
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why do people that believe in chemtrails think that showing pictures of contrails prove the existence of chemtrails? I really don't get their logic. We know that contrails leave a checkered pattern due to flight paths. We know that contrails can dissipate or linger. What are you trying to show?
Human_Alien...do you believe in every single conspiracy theory you come across? Most of your threads are ridiculous and discredit the real conspiracies. You constantly call everyone that disagrees with you COINTELPRO..... but If anyone would be a dis-info agent it would be you.
Not trying to be mean but...you make us all look like this guy...
edit on 13-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Iwinder
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why do people that believe in chemtrails think that showing pictures of contrails prove the existence of chemtrails? I really don't get their logic. We know that contrails leave a checkered pattern due to flight paths. We know that contrails can dissipate or linger. What are you trying to show?
Human_Alien...do you believe in every single conspiracy theory you come across? Most of your threads are ridiculous and discredit the real conspiracies. You constantly call everyone that disagrees with you COINTELPRO..... but If anyone would be a dis-info agent it would be you.
Not trying to be mean but...you make us all look like this guy...
edit on 13-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
And the whole point of your post above is exactly what if I may ask, I don't see anything contributed to this thread just a lot of babble.
Personally I have been a without a doubt they have been spraying toxins for about 7-8 years, this means nothing here and I know that but after watching the video posted here and people ignoring the question how can one engine sputter and the other not?
I cut my teeth on this site which everyone knows here but for the fun of it here is the link.
www.carnicominstitute.org...
I can say I have read every page on the above site and I will admit a lot of it is over my head and will forever be.
But I would love anyone here in doubt and with some real knowledge to debate Cliff here one on one ...........
It would be a slaughter.
To HA the OP S&F and you sure brought them out in droves today!
Regards, Iwinderedit on 13-7-2012 by Iwinder because: (no reason given)
But I would love anyone here in doubt and with some real knowledge to debate Cliff here one on one
Originally posted by flyswatter
I think it would be a bit different if people were presenting proof of chemtrails rather than assumptions and speculation. But as it stands, tests have not been done, proof has not been presented, and we're left with keyboard warriors trying to pass their opinions as facts.
Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
Originally posted by flyswatter
I think it would be a bit different if people were presenting proof of chemtrails rather than assumptions and speculation. But as it stands, tests have not been done, proof has not been presented, and we're left with keyboard warriors trying to pass their opinions as facts.
Oh, please forgive me, I didn't realize ATS was full of facts and not speculation. Let's go back through your posts and see if there is any speculation anywhere.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Iwinder
But I would love anyone here in doubt and with some real knowledge to debate Cliff here one on one
Debate Cliff? On the existence of imaginary Chemtrails? I'd LOVE TO! I'll debate him on Chemtrails, or if he really wants a fighting chance, maybe we should debate something like Leprechauns. At least then I won't have science, fact, and 10,000 commercial pilots, and 10,000 meteorologists, and 100 years of history to use to bury him.
Originally posted by flyswatter
Originally posted by Iwinder
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why do people that believe in chemtrails think that showing pictures of contrails prove the existence of chemtrails? I really don't get their logic. We know that contrails leave a checkered pattern due to flight paths. We know that contrails can dissipate or linger. What are you trying to show?
Human_Alien...do you believe in every single conspiracy theory you come across? Most of your threads are ridiculous and discredit the real conspiracies. You constantly call everyone that disagrees with you COINTELPRO..... but If anyone would be a dis-info agent it would be you.
Not trying to be mean but...you make us all look like this guy...
edit on 13-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
And the whole point of your post above is exactly what if I may ask, I don't see anything contributed to this thread just a lot of babble.
Personally I have been a without a doubt they have been spraying toxins for about 7-8 years, this means nothing here and I know that but after watching the video posted here and people ignoring the question how can one engine sputter and the other not?
I cut my teeth on this site which everyone knows here but for the fun of it here is the link.
www.carnicominstitute.org...
I can say I have read every page on the above site and I will admit a lot of it is over my head and will forever be.
But I would love anyone here in doubt and with some real knowledge to debate Cliff here one on one ...........
It would be a slaughter.
To HA the OP S&F and you sure brought them out in droves today!
Regards, Iwinderedit on 13-7-2012 by Iwinder because: (no reason given)
Engine sputter ... huh, what are you talking about? Are you referencing the video of the KC-10 refueling plane that was purported to have "nozzles" and be spraying? If thats the case ... the original unedited video was linked, and the video itself was a joke. The "nozzles" are farings for the flaps, which can be found on every one of these KC-10 refuelers, and the "spray" was explained in a quote from that very person.
I REALLY hope that you are not saying that video was the final straw in the argument for you.
Originally posted by observe50
On every subject there is going to be the ying-yang we should all know that.
If you watch the skies every day then maybe just maybe it will hit the skeptics something isn't right but it's a logic and common sense thing and from what I know most people don't use it.
Originally posted by Iwinder
Originally posted by flyswatter
Originally posted by Iwinder
Originally posted by RealSpoke
Why do people that believe in chemtrails think that showing pictures of contrails prove the existence of chemtrails? I really don't get their logic. We know that contrails leave a checkered pattern due to flight paths. We know that contrails can dissipate or linger. What are you trying to show?
Human_Alien...do you believe in every single conspiracy theory you come across? Most of your threads are ridiculous and discredit the real conspiracies. You constantly call everyone that disagrees with you COINTELPRO..... but If anyone would be a dis-info agent it would be you.
Not trying to be mean but...you make us all look like this guy...
edit on 13-7-2012 by RealSpoke because: (no reason given)
And the whole point of your post above is exactly what if I may ask, I don't see anything contributed to this thread just a lot of babble.
Personally I have been a without a doubt they have been spraying toxins for about 7-8 years, this means nothing here and I know that but after watching the video posted here and people ignoring the question how can one engine sputter and the other not?
I cut my teeth on this site which everyone knows here but for the fun of it here is the link.
www.carnicominstitute.org...
I can say I have read every page on the above site and I will admit a lot of it is over my head and will forever be.
But I would love anyone here in doubt and with some real knowledge to debate Cliff here one on one ...........
It would be a slaughter.
To HA the OP S&F and you sure brought them out in droves today!
Regards, Iwinderedit on 13-7-2012 by Iwinder because: (no reason given)
Engine sputter ... huh, what are you talking about? Are you referencing the video of the KC-10 refueling plane that was purported to have "nozzles" and be spraying? If thats the case ... the original unedited video was linked, and the video itself was a joke. The "nozzles" are farings for the flaps, which can be found on every one of these KC-10 refuelers, and the "spray" was explained in a quote from that very person.
I REALLY hope that you are not saying that video was the final straw in the argument for you.
Did you watch the video and read the thread all the way through?
I was asking Realspoke not you but your reply is a welcome derailment to this thread.
Regards, Iwinder
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Iwinder
But I would love anyone here in doubt and with some real knowledge to debate Cliff here one on one
Debate Cliff? On the existence of imaginary Chemtrails? I'd LOVE TO! I'll debate him on Chemtrails, or if he really wants a fighting chance, maybe we should debate something like Leprechauns. At least then I won't have science, fact, and 10,000 commercial pilots, and 10,000 meteorologists, and 100 years of history to use to bury him.
If you wish to debate the facts, I'm all for it. But you dont seem to be able to handle that.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
Ok, you got me. It is conceivable. Now, go build a box big enough to surround a whole town, without them noticing, and turn your tornado machine on and wipe them out. If you need suggestions, I'd say D.C. would be a good place to run your test.
I'd say D.C. would be a good place to run your test.
The bottom line, as Jesselyn Radack of the Government Accountability Project notes, is that after billions have been spent by Department of Homeland Security, FEMA and local law enforcement, we are no more prepared today than we were the day before September 11, 2011.
After a short but unusually severe thunderstorm that roared through the D.C. area on Friday night, the entire Washington Metropolitan Area was thrown into chaos.
Three days later, countless traffic lights are still out, hundreds of thousands of residents are without power, including myself, grocery stores and gas station are closed for lack of power, and the federal government is encouraging employees to telework.
[SHTFplan Editor's note: Brilliant recommendation from the best and brightest – to "telework" when the grid is down. ]
...
Is this the work of a terrible terrorist attack? No, it is the complete disaster non-preparedness a decade after 9/11. Despite the fact that billions if not trillions have been spent since 9/11 on counter-terrorism and so-called "homeland security" measures, one of the major terrorist targets, the nation's capital, cannot cope with a severe thunderstorm.
Originally posted by luxordelphi
A bunk science was invented, overnight, by morons, to explain it. Where's the mystery?
Originally posted by luxordelphi
reply to post by flyswatter
If you wish to debate the facts, I'm all for it. But you dont seem to be able to handle that.
What facts? AndyMayhew put up a study from the early 1970's that showed a failure to produce contrails in perfect conditions. What am I? Talking with myself? If you're not sure what AndyMayhew posted: why not read it?
Name-calling? People who invent bunk science are what? Rocket scientists?
I can't really say this any clearer: chemtrails were a planned operation, albeit a hurried one. An explanation needed to be found for their sudden appearance in the skies. Chaff was getting old. A bunk science was invented, overnight, by morons, to explain it. Where's the mystery?