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Mitt Romney stayed at Bain 3 years longer than he stated

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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Gee , I wonder how many of those over paid talking heads and their MSM bosses invested in Bains capital ?
Mittens owned and ran Bain, Bain was a money maker , and Mittens was the golden boy.
You don't think those in the know would pass up on a golden opportunity.
You don't think if Bain lost big money the MSM would have a different approach to the story ?
Trulely you protest to much.

And stop with the two party illusion, because right now it's a lose lose situation.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
reply to post by OLD HIPPY DUDE
 


Gee , I wonder how many of those over paid talking heads and their MSM bosses invested in Bains capital ?
Mittens owned and ran Bain, Bain was a money maker , and Mittens was the golden boy.
You don't think those in the know would pass up on a golden opportunity.
You don't think if Bain lost big money the MSM would have a different approach to the story ?
Trulely you protest to much.

And stop with the two party illusion, because right now it's a lose lose situation.
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It's a WIN & Restore situation.

Our future is very bright.

Romney / Condi 2013 !


The VP debate should be great.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


Dream on , brother.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


Dream on , brother.


The debates are in October. Stand by for an Obama surrender.

His record is a disgrace & the Job Growth Reports will get even worse.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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Like I said before it's a lose lose situation. ANY debate will be pathetic. Romney said during the primary debates ,
he will respond any way he wants. Both candidates will take advantage of prime speaking time , and answer no questions. It will come down to who B.S.s the public better. They never keep their promises.
The problem is the agenda your pushing so hard, the american public will be stuck with it for 4 years.The AGEND WILL BE THE SAME which ever of those two gets elected.
Weither it's Obama or Mittens America will not survive the next 4 years.
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by Ilovecatbinlady
 


America is already free.


We just need to - restore - America. It won't take long.

We just need to undo everything Obama did.


Your problems are more than just Obama.



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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I know you've heard about The Washington Post fact checking article on Romney and Bain. Here's another one that adds a discussion of Obama's ads claiming Romney sent jobs off-shore. The ads were based on a Post article. (That's what's being referred to in this excerpt.)

The Obama campaign moved quickly to define what the article said, claiming that this transfer of jobs took place while Romney ran Bain. That’s not what the original article said.

Yet the campaign clearly seized on this report because their interpretation fit with a long-term “outsourcing” attack they have waged against Romney. One of their outsourcing ads before the article ran, in fact, earned Four Pinocchios. These new ads would not fare much better; there is little in the Post article that backs up the Obama campaign’s spin.

(Our colleagues at FactCheck.org have also offered their own analysis of the Obama outsourcing ads and the issues raised in The Post’s article, saying “some of the claims in the ads are untrue, and others are thinly supported.” The Obama campaign did not dispute the details of their analysis, except to once again claim that Romney had an active role in Bain after he left to run the Salt Lake City Olympics in 1999--a claim that FactCheck.org quickly debunked. We came to the same conclusion in January. There is no evidence that Romney played a role in Bain decisions after he left to run the Olympics.)

Fact Checking

The Washington Post is a liberal paper, supporting Obama. When it gives his claims three and four Pinocchios out of four, it seems reasonable to believe that the Obama claims are wrong.

I wish some people in this thread would just present some evidence that hasn't already been shown to be false. Stop repeating claims based on nothing but campaign attacks. It's no way to discuss something or to learn.

Forgive me, but I'm getting frustrated. I thought ATSers could weigh evidence and reach conclusions based on logic. It's not fun dealing with human tape recorders.




edit on 14-7-2012 by charles1952 because: Sorry, wasn't ready, be right back.


edit on 14-7-2012 by charles1952 because: I'm right back



posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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Forgive me, but I'd like to post something I believe is relevant to this thread that I've already posted to another thread. I don't know if this is a violation of the T&C, but if it is, I'd like it removed.

This will not satisfy anyone, but it is not intended to. I simply want the discussion to be moved to a higher level by getting additional information thrown in the mix. This statement was made by a former IRS Commissioner:



I have reviewed Governor and Mrs. Romney’s joint tax return for 2010, including returns for the Ann and Mitt Romney Family Trust, the Ann D. Romney Blind Trust, and the W. Mitt Romney Blind Trust. I have also reviewed the return in process for 2011. These returns reflect the complexity of our tax laws and the types of investment activity that I would anticipate for persons in their circumstances. There is no indication or suggestion of any tax-motivated or aggressive tax planning activities. In my judgment, they have fully satisfied their responsibilities as taxpayers. They have done so by relying on a highly reputable return preparer and other advisors, who have in turn relied primarily on information provided by third parties to them and to the IRS. The end result of that process has been returns that include a multitude of schedules, IRS forms and accompanying statements that provide appropriate transparency and the proper payment of taxes that Governor and Mrs. Romney owe under current law. (emphasis added)

Fred Goldberg
Former IRS Commissioner


www.mittromney.com...

If you'd care to look at Romney's tax documents, they are here: www.mittromney.com...

edit on 14-7-2012 by charles1952 because: Bracket trouble



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by fourthmeal

Originally posted by TheTardis

Originally posted by fourthmeal

Originally posted by TheTardis

Originally posted by fourthmeal
He's going to jail soon anyway, for Federal election crimes. No need to worry much longer about this little hooligan psychopath.


Yes because all Hooligan phychopaths legally amass millions and try to keep it safe in banks that can actuall unsure it. I have asked this on many threads now. Can you tell me how much money american banks can insure? Do you understand why people put money in these overseas banks? And does it actually matter to you how much money he has? Why does that change your voting? Hell to me the more money he has the better. We need someone that knows how to turn a dime instead of doing dime bags.


I don't care how much money he has, what I care about is that he's the head boss of a crime syndicate, and he's going down in a ball of flames.


Ahh yes and all of the sources to back up your claim I see. How many sources was that? ZERO you say? Nice catch there buddy.. Try again. Just because you want something to be true really bad doesnt make it so. But I am sure if you shout loud enough a couple more of the obots will come in and help.


LOL.. I didn't say a word about sources, actually other than the original person who informed me of the fact.

Methinks you are directing energy at a brick wall, as all I have said is that he's a criminal and he'll be in jail soon. And the evidence for this will be shown in court cases (9th district of California, keep an eye out) soon enough. Richard Gilbert said so in his conference call to delegates, and said he's got the documents to back it up and it will be revealed in court. If you know anything about court proceedings, its usually best to just let what needs to come out, come out, in court at the right time, when the judge needs to see it. So, I will let your defensive posture deflate itself after all of this washes out in court. This will be done before the August GOP conference, btw, so we won't wait long.


You really need to dig your head out of the sand, it's really sickening that there are people still oblivious as you. The game is rigged, against, you, me and the rest of the US citizens, the supreme court is rigged, the entire system is rigged. Mitt Romney won't do 30 secs in jail, wake up. Should he, of course, but I will guarantee you he won't.

Wake up.



posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
reply to post by Eurisko2012
 


so he is not listed as CEO on the SEC filings ?

if that is the case, then I am mistaken


Sounds like his blind trusts, Romeny doesn't take responsibility for his actions, he passes it off to someone else, unless something was successful, then he'll take credit.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Good Questions ....



A few of the critical questions Romney must answer include:

1. Are you contending that an individual can simultaneously be the CEO, president, managing director of a company, and its sole stockholder and somehow be “disassociated” from the company or accurately classified as someone not having “any” formal involvement with a company?

2. You have stated that in “Feb. 1999 I left Bain capital and all management responsibility” and “I had no ongoing activity or involvement.” It depends on what the definition of “involvement” is, doesn’t it? Clearly you were involved with Bain to the extent that you owned it. Are you defining “involvement” in a uniquely specific way that only means “full-time, active, 60-hours-a-week, hands-on manager?”

3. You earned at least $100,000 as an executive from Bain in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings according to filings with State of Massachusetts. Can you give an example of anyone else you personally know getting a six figure income, not dividend or investment return, but actual income, from a company they had nothing to do with?

4. What did you do for this $100,000 salary you earned from Bain in both 2000 and 2001?

5. In 2002, you are listed as one of two managing members of Bain Capital Investors LLC in its annual report. What does this mean?

6. If, in fact, you did not veto any major investment decision during your 1999 though 2002 ownership, doesn’t that imply your broad consent of management’s decisions?

7. According to the Boston Globe, “Romney also testified that ‘there were a number of social trips and business trips that brought [him] back to Massachusetts, board meetings’ while he was running the Olympics. He added that he remained on the boards of several companies, including the Lifelike Co., in which Bain Capital held a stake until 2001.” You testified that while running the Olympics you took a number of business trips to Massachusetts and for board meetings for companies including Lifelike Co. Bain had a stake in this company until 2001. Are you contending that you could attend board meetings for Lifelike Co at the same time Bain Capital had a stake in Lifelike Co and at the same time you owned the stock of Bain Capital, but that somehow your attending a board meeting for a company partially owned by Bain had nothing to do with Bain because you were on the board as Mitt Romney the individual, not as the representative of Bain?

8. When asked “did you attend board meetings for Bain after 1999″ you responded by saying “I did not manage Bain after 1999,” or that you didn’t attend any meetings involving things like firing people. This seems to suggest the possibility that you did attend Bain meetings in 2000 and 2001 that did not involve hiring or firing people or where you made the final decisions on investments. Is that possible?

www.politico.com...



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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Meaningless questions.


The American people care about the economy.

They want 400,000 jobs every month not 80,000.

Only the neolibs care about Bain.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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Meaningless questions.


The American people care about the economy.



And Mitt Romney has repeatedly cited his tenure at Bain as evidence that he can improve the economy.

Strange that he also would like to disown those same credentials?

Absent a real plan and his unwillingness to discuss his "Bain" credentials that he once touted, or his finances, or how he accumulated his personal wealth, or where he keeps that wealth off-shore, or even a glimpse beyond one years tax return that he constructed for political purposes...Are Americans supposed to simply take his word for it?...Mitt Romney's word????



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
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Meaningless questions.


The American people care about the economy.



And Mitt Romney has repeatedly cited his tenure at Bain as evidence that he can improve the economy.

Strange that he also would like to disown those same credentials?

Absent a real plan and his unwillingness to discuss his "Bain" credentials that he once touted, or his finances, or how he accumulated his personal wealth, or where he keeps that wealth off-shore, or even a glimpse beyond one years tax return that he constructed for political purposes...Are Americans supposed to simply take his word for it?...Mitt Romney's word????


Mitt Romney is a capitalist.

Obama is radical marxist who gave us a wonderful socialist rant today!!!

Obama: " If you have a business, you didn't build that."

He sounds just like Elisabeth Warren!

She had a socialist rant of her own!

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Only a capitalist can lead us out of this economic malaise.

Obama can go back to Chicago and play 100 rounds of golf.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Mitt Romney is a capitalist.


You forgot the word "vulture"...he is a "Vulture Capitalist"...finding troubled companies and feeding off of them till they die. Cashing in on other people's pensions and laying off staff.


Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Obama is radical marxist


And just because you are aping something that folks on right-wing radio say, makes that statement no less delusional and false.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Eurisko2012

Mitt Romney is a capitalist.


You forgot the word "vulture"...he is a "Vulture Capitalist"...finding troubled companies and feeding off of them till they die. Cashing in on other people's pensions and laying off staff.


Originally posted by Eurisko2012
Obama is radical marxist


And just because you are aping something that folks on right-wing radio say, makes that statement no less delusional and false.


Think for just 1 minute.

Why did Obama hire Van Jones?

Glenn Beck outed him as a communist. Van Jones quit in the middle of the night.

Obama and Van Jones are both radical Marxists.

I believe Glenn Beck.

Maxine Waters is another one.

They are very easy to spot.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
I believe Glenn Beck.



That is all you really had to say
nuff said...good luck in your world.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Eurisko2012
I believe Glenn Beck.



That is all you really had to say
nuff said...good luck in your world.


My world? Be honest with yourself just for 1 minute.

Did Obama hire Van Jones?

Why did Van Jones quit in the middle of the night?

Glenn Beck used Van Joneses own words to flush him out.

Seek the truth.

Van Jones is a communist.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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I believe Glenn Beck.


Holy Crap...I don't think I have ever see anyone admit that before.

I have heard people say, "I think Glenn Beck is crazy...but he is entertaining and drives liberals crazy"...but WOW...I don't even know how to respond to someone just saying they flat out believe what Glenn Beck says.

It really explains a lot.



posted on Jul, 16 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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This is not going away like Romney hoped it would.

Friday he scheduled interviews with all 5 networks after a week long thrashing...and what did he say..."Their lies, but I'm not going to release anything to prove they are lies".


If these truly are lies...Romney could destroy Obama by just simply releasing his tax returns. But he isn't doing this...and now he has some top Republicans demanding that he release his tax returns.

Obama usually doesn't go on an attack like this...so I suspect that he has some very credible information to back up these claims...because sticking your neck out there like this could be a disaster if Romney can prove all these claims wrong.


I honestly believe we either just saw the deciding point in Romney's campaign...we either just saw him lose the election (most likely), lose the Republican nomination (kind of likely), or he just won the election if he can prove all these allegations false (not so likely).



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