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Occupy: A point we possibly need to move on from

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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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When you desire to improve quality of life for the middle or lower classes it always ends with someone being called a communist. It's not communist to want an opportunity in life.

People say that Occupy is communist because an element of Occupy IS COMMUNIST!



There are plenty of socialists too



The common denominator among all Occupiers is the desire for the nanny state to wipe your butts and put food in your mouth. I don’t know how many more times I can watch Beezzer explain the lack of personal responsibility shown by so many in this country.

Maybe if people stop crying about what they don’t have, stop crying about what others DO HAVE, stop looking to others to provide things for them and be responsible for themselves their personal situation would improve!!

Stop crying, people. You’re the only ones who want more nanny state and you’re not going to get it.

Show me in the constitution where it says:

1) Wealth is a right
2) Socialized medicine is a right
3) College is a right
4) Economic equality is a right
5) The rich are evil

I don’t recall reading any of that anywhere in the Bill of Rights!

Our country is screwed up but we sure as hell don't need more government influence in our lives! We need to fix government by limiting their influence in our lives not putting them in charge of our every need.





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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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Integrity and cohesion amoung common folk are what the country needs. Insulting someone that doesn't agree with you doesn't help your country or your cause. If your ideals are just and true, articulating them through debate and conversation will spread them and provide the two things I mentioned above.

That second picture is funny. "Bring the troops home", "socialism for the 21st century", "stop terror in lebanon". Is that even real? I think they got lost on their way to another protest!
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 07:35 PM
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That second picture is funny. "Bring the troops home", "socialism for the 21st century", "stop terror in lebanon". Is that even real? I think they got lost on their way to another protest!


It’s real



I gave up trying to make sense out of Occupy. They are a group of people with extremely diverse bitches and complaints; everyone with a problem is welcome.


Integrity and cohesion amoung common folk are what the country needs. Insulting someone that doesn't agree with you doesn't help your country or your cause.


Is “Integrity and cohesion among common folk” code world for “give up your money until we’re all equal”?

Is it insulting to ask someone to take personal responsibility for their own wellbeing?

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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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If things keep going the way they have been, we will all be taking responsibility for it here shortly. Is it wrong to demand that the wealthy socialites and businessmen conduct themselves by the same rules that we common folk live by? You do realize that the me-me stance taken by some young people is a direct result of the me-me livestyles of the wealthy people in this country right? Is it wrong to demand that our economy is not undermined for the benefit of those wealthy businessmen?

Honestly, if people like you spent their time holding the big time businessmen responsible for their actions as much as you do a bunch of children with signs that don't mean squat, the world might be a better place.
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:46 PM
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If things keep going the way they have been, we will all be taking responsibility for it here shortly. Is it wrong to demand that the wealthy socialites and businessmen conduct themselves by the same rules that we common folk live by?

Should they be allowed to break the law? NOPE!


You do realize that the me-me stance taken by some young people is a direct result of the me-me livestyles of the wealthy people in this country right? Is it wrong to demand that our economy is not undermined for the benefit of those wealthy businessmen?


The difference is…the wealthy already worked for and earned their lifestyle.



Honestly, if people like you spent their time holding the big time businessmen responsible for their actions as much as you do a bunch of children with signs that don't mean squat, the world might be a better place.


WHAT ACTIONS?? Having money????

It’s not a crime to be rich just as it’s not a crime to be broke. There is nothing to resolve with regard to the rich other than reigning in the corruption and cronyism going on by SOME. The "rich" that so many in Occupy envy are by NO MEANS 1%'ers...they're just rich.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
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The difference is…the wealthy already worked for and earned their lifestyle.


Sure they did. I keep waiting for Paris Hilton or Kim Kardasian to do something useful. I think throwing things at them is the closest they've ever been to useful. "Flour catcher looking for work. Want to be paid millions."

Oh yah, these people are awesome. So hard working.


Just think of all the money the hard working business mogels have made moving the jobs for the common folk out of the country! Working hard, to # you over!


The right wingers ripped the economic base out of America and now the former middle class people have either fallen to wellfare status or found government work and you want to defend them?

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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:43 PM
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Sure they did. I keep waiting for Paris Hilton or Kim Kardasian to do something useful. I think throwing things at them is the closest they've ever been to useful. "Flour catcher looking for work. Want to be paid millions."

Oh yah, these people are awesome. So hard working.


So because you can name two spoiled kids we should hang the millions of hard working Americans who have a few bucks?

Pathetic!



Just think of all the money the hard working business mogels have made moving the jobs for the common folk out of the country! Working hard, to # you over!


You obviously know nothing other than what you’ve been told. Companies decide to move overseas because of our gvernment!


The right wingers ripped the economic base out of America and now the former middle class people have either fallen to wellfare status or found government work and you want to defend them?


Lies and more lies.

You don’t know heads from tails.

Obama has created the most anti-business atmosphere in decades! He’s spending us into bankruptcy and making it impossible for businesses to conduct business here!



You really need to stop listening to biased liberals and do some research of your own.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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You obviously know nothing other than what you’ve been told. Companies decide to move overseas because of our gvernment!


Our government made it more profitable to move overseas and tried to hold them accountable for their actions here in the united states. We print money and support the Chinese economy, not our own. We've been relying on the government for middle class employment for years, and now it's catching up. The private small business sector was never there. Not in the last 20 years. The corporate world has been resemebling monopolies more and more since the 80s.

Hard working Americans? No, I want to take the money from those that operate globally and selectively to avoid fair taxation and undermine the common person by moving jobs overseas. Those that finance political groups hellbent on squeezing the middle class cash cow just a little bit harder.

Maybe we need to make life a little easier for those poor unfortunate millionaires that keep cashing in their fortunes and leaving as soon as the grass is greener on the other side, or they think they might come into a losing streak. Yah, those poor poor millionaires!
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posted on Jul, 14 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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I don't consider regulation to be a bad thing, Seabag. If there is one area where the Left could consider me one of theirs, it would be because of my support of the Sherman Act.
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posted on Jul, 15 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by thehoneycomb
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Nah they're not all like that. Some of them just desecrate the flag and sleep on the sidewalk.



I'd hardly call that desecration of the flag. What more positive use could said flag possibly be put to?

There's a serious lack of humanism, among some of you people.



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