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Originally posted by sputniksteve
reply to post by RSF77
I can't tell but I think Schuyler was making a post as an example of what a cointelpro disinfo post looks like.
Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
Many manipulators are narcissists, it is a common trait, here are some different variants of narcissism:
Originally posted by orbitbaby
Indeed, I see it here on ATS all the time. Here is a good example:
Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION' Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.
Certainly makes one wonder....
Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'
A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting.
Originally posted by RSF77
Originally posted by schuyler
This guy strikes me as an armchair theorist with no real concrete knowledge of disinformation. It's not like he found a CIA manual on covert operations; he made this stuff up based on his own biases.
Just like you just made that up based on your own bias. There is no way to know how that was conjured up, be it in a government building, some old apartment or in someones imagination. You would certainly agree that the techniques outlined in it are eerily similar to day to day operations on some of these forums? Right?
After all, just how much trouble would it be for someone with money to spend a tiny bit of it paying people in order to further an agenda on the internet? It's already done with the MSM and the internet is now becoming the next big news outlet, you think that is being completely ignored?
And, yeah, it’s small. ATS likes to puff up its numbers. They have over a quarter million members, they say, yet only 55% have bothered to make a post and only about 5,000 members have made more than 500 posts. That’s 2% that you could actually say are really active here. 1% of members, 2500 people, have made over 1,000 posts. Really not much to worry about.
Actually, this is one of the larger forums on the internet.
Nothing to see here. Move along.
Seems like every time that is said there really is something to see.
Originally posted by schuyler
I see it more as if someone wondered what techniques could be used and made them up. They seem pretty lame to me. That's why I call this a straw man argument. He just made this stuff up. Also, peole who are religious in their approach often see confirmation of their beliefes in the environment. I have a cousin who believes he sees signs of the Resurrection in certain seashells.
Originally posted by MDDoxs
I wish them the best of luck attempting this with a forum such as ATS. Most members are inheritably curious, cautious, critical and intelligent. Your welcome all for the compliment.
These practices in my opinion would be more practical on forums that do not attempt to route our Hoax’s, miss-information and external influences.
These techniques would be best applied to Mom & Pops community forum where the users are naively under the impression everyone on the internet is genuine.
To the agents of dis-information and of malicious intent, I wish you luck, be prepared for close scrutiny and critical opinions.
THIS IS ATS!!..
Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by intrptr
Oh my goodness you must have totally misunderstood my post.
Perhaps this will help...
Army of Fake Social Media Friends to Promote Propaganda
Now...are "they" coming for us? IMO...No.
Are they still reading, obviously, yes.
Do they sign up and post in forums?