I wish them the best of luck attempting this with a forum such as ATS. Most members are inheritably curious, cautious, critical and intelligent. Your welcome all for the compliment.

These practices in my opinion would be more practical on forums that do not attempt to route our Hoax’s, miss-information and external influences.

These techniques would be best applied to Mom & Pops community forum where the users are naively under the impression everyone on the internet is genuine.

To the agents of dis-information and of malicious intent, I wish you luck, be prepared for close scrutiny and critical opinions.

THIS IS ATS!!..

Originally posted by MDDoxs
THIS IS ATS!!..

*queue Sparta scene*

Also for those who may not have read the linked article, here is another quote mentioning ATS;

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

A second highly effective technique (which you can see in operation all the time at www.abovetopsecret.com) is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used.

Indeed, I see it here on ATS all the time. Here is a good example:

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION' Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Certainly makes one wonder....

All I can say is that after reading that link, I see it more clearly now.

Too bad the message is already out there about the lies in gov't, etc...
Millions of people already got the message and have no futher need to read more into it.
Although there are still those apathetic people, our numbers are rising daily.
We know what they are trying to get away with.
They can store as much info as they want...but we still have insiders.
Remember, "the people" are their handymen.
How else does anyone think this information gets out?

We know they pay people to try and deceive us.
We know alot more than they think...and it's spreading.
Old school style, that can't be traced, tracked or "spied" upon.

It's too late for those agents because we've moved past the "internet" and "forums".
The game is afoot!




Nice find!

Great thread! I definitely see some of these tactics used here. If you don't start controversial threads you may not see them.

Here are some Vulnerabilities exploited by manipulators:

- the "disease to please"

- addiction to earning the approval and acceptance of others

- Emotophobia (fear of negative emotion)

- lack of assertiveness and ability to say no

- blurry sense of identity (with soft personal boundaries)

- low self-reliance

- external locus of control

Manipulator personality types/psychological issues:

- machiavellian personality
- narcissistic personality disorder
- paranoid personality disorder
- borderline personality disorder
- avoidant personality disorder
- dependent personality disorder
- histrionic personality disorder
- passive–aggressive behavior
- type A angry personalities
- antisocial personality disorder
- behavioral addiction

Many manipulators are narcissists, it is a common trait, here are some different variants of narcissism:

•Acquired situational
•Aggressive
•Amorous
•Closet
•Collective
•Compensatory
•Conversational
•Corporate
•Cross-cultural
•Cultural
•Destructive
•Egomania
•Elitist
•Exhibitionist
•Fanatical
•Gender
•Group
•Healthy
•Inverted
•Malignant
•Medical
•Megalomania
•Pathological
•Personality disorder
•Phallic
•Primary
•Primordial
•Secondary
•Sexual
•Spiritual
•Unhealthy
•Unprincipled

And here are the characteristics of Narcissists, of course we all have a few of these traits from time to time, I guess Narcissists exhibit many much of the time, I wonder if there is a number threshold to be considered a Narcissist:

•Arrogance
•Bad boundaries
•Betrayal
•Boasting
•Bravado
•Conceit
•Criticism (intolerance of)
•Egocentrism
•Egotism
•Empathy (lack of)
•Entitlement (exaggerated)
•Envy
•Exploitative
•Fantasy
•Grandiosity
•Grandstanding
•Greed
•Haughtiness
•Hidden agenda
•Hubris
•Magical thinking
•Manipulative
•Narcissistic abuse
•Narcissistic elation
•Narcissistic injury
•Narcissistic mortification
•Narcissistic rage
•Narcissistic supply
•Narcissistic withdrawal
•Omnipotence
•Opportunism
•Perfectionism
•Self-absorbed
•Self-esteem
•Self-righteousness
•Selfishness
•Shamelessness
•Superficial charm
•Superiority complex
•Tantrum
•True self and false self
•Vanity

Here are some negative reinforcement psychological techniques some of which are often seen on ATS:

•Anger
•Character assassination
•Crying
•Emotional blackmail
•Fear mongering
•Frowning
•Glaring
•Guilt trip
•Inattention
•Intimidation
•Nagging
•Nit-picking criticism
•Passive aggression
•Punishment
•Relational aggression
•Shaming
•Silent treatment (blanking)
•Sulking
•Swearing
•Threats
•Victim blaming
•Victim playing
•Yelling

OMG!!! This is the best thread I have seen in a very long time! WOW what a hoot! I have only read the first few parts but wow.

Cripes from those lists I'm going to be careful of everyone on here - so that ticks my box as one of the paranoid.
We all need to be careful wherever we are as even good people can do bad things without realising or meaning to.
What makes me angry though is stuff that's put on forums that are downright lies, it's easy to disagree with an opinion but lies are more difficult. Stay frosty people

You call them 'techniques' [see list above] but they are also genuine human traits. I am guilty of doing a few things on the list but I have done that because those were genuine feelings. How do we know that someone isn't just passionate or misinformed or uneducated rather than having an agenda?

I did not want to be the one to point fingers but...

Originally posted by tazdeill2

We all need to be careful wherever we are as even good people can do bad things without realising or meaning to.

This sentence made some red lights flash... Let the paranoia begin! JK

I point this sentence out as to me, taken out of context, it appears to be highly suggestive. Not that it is, sorry to use you as an example Taz.

Originally posted by Hecate666
You call them 'techniques' [see list above] but they are also genuine human traits. I am guilty of doing a few things on the list but I have done that because those were genuine feelings. How do we know that someone isn't just passionate or misinformed or uneducated rather than having an agenda?

Of course, everyone is selfish, judgemental, angry etc at times - no one is perfect!

I think in real life as opposed being on here it is sometimes a little tougher to rein in one's emotions/negative traits, but on here I think there is less of an excuse as we take time to type what we want to say and should be able to edit any negative traits as we ponder what we have said before we post it - we don't have this opportunity in real life.