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Originally posted by Shadow Herder
Not so much a legend.
That's kind of interesting. So there were approximately 130,000 instances where authorities attempted to attain records bypassing correct legal channels for each of these communication entities alone. Maybe I misunderstood that passage, correct me if I'm wrong. Remarkable growth
AT&T and Verizon Wireless reported 261,000 and 260,000 requests respectively in 2011, with each company saying that approximately half of received requests involved criminal subpoenas.
Sounds like an expanding practice by law enforcement to me. Slowly cooking those frogs.Exigent: requiring immediate aid or action. Figured I'd throw that in there since I had to look up the term myself.
AT&T’s number of requests also grew sharply over the past five years, with the number of subpoenas doubling from 63,100 in 2007 to 131,400 in 2011, and the number of “exigent requests” for emergency responders nearly tripling, from 23,200 to 65,500. The rate of growth far outpaced the growth of AT&T’s subscriber base, which the company’s letter said went from 70 million in 2007 to 103 million in 2012.
Originally posted by phroziac
Im on a verizon cell connection right now. Guess i need to switch providers now.
I could easily see this practice being used in the future to gain legal authority. It's the beauty of fine print. Something people may want to look out for in the future. I'm actually surprised they haven't attempted to implement something like this already when I think about it.
Originally posted by crankyoldman
1. This can be done for new customers only. The cannot go back and retroactively change the agreement of a free internet the current users signed up for. The new customers might agree, the old will leave quickly and the entire, expensive network will need to be loaned out to others.
lol. Best. Post. Ever. Here's a guy who gets it folks. The world is made up of average idiots. That's why public opinion is so easy to manipulate... all you need to do is work out how to fool an idiot and you can fool the majority. It really is that simple. If the masses were smarter we'd be 100% better off right now. We can't blame anyone else for our problems because our own stupidity has led us here. The only reason the internet has remained open and neutral this long is because the people who build and operate the internet are not idiots. But that wont stop the idiots from eventually violating the neutrality of the internet once they are convinced we all need to be monitored for our own safety.
Originally posted by GD21D
I love the play on words. If you're an average idiot you would more than likely find the argument plausible, and somewhat justifiable. I just hope there aren't that many average idiots out there. Ahhh, who am I kidding. There are a bunch of average idiots out there. Sigh.
DOJ holds up Verizon-cable deal on competition concerns Is it any coincidence that all of this is happening in the same time frame? I highly doubt it. Who knows? Maybe they are just meandering through these ideals with no set plan in place.
The Justice Department is holding up approval of Verizon Wireless’ $3.9 billion bid for spectrum from cable firms because of concerns that a cross-marketing deal attached to the deal will thwart competition for landline Internet service, according to people familiar with the review. Justice’s concern is that Verizon’s agreement to jointly market wireless and landline Internet services with Comcast, Time Warner Cable, Bright House and Cox could lead to the deterioration of Verizon Communicatin’s FiOs Internet service, which competes with cable offerings.
Originally posted by XeroOne
If Verizon's refusing to do the job you're paying them for, bin them. It's a free market.
Oh, and if worst comes to worst, have a search for the Calyx Institute. They're in the process of setting up a surveillance-proof ISP.edit on 11-7-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)