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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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I found something that I thought was very, very intriguing, and I wanted to share it with ATS. First, to see what you think. And second, if it withstands the test of scrutiny and flame, to share this newfound wisdom and insight.

Maybe we can even help to broaden the horizons of certain zealots who could use a little bit of abstract thinking in their lives.



John P. Scott, in The Hidden Bible: Genesis, says that the Garden of Eden was heaven and the eating of the apple represents our fall from heaven into the physical. Adam and Eve lost consciousness of the higher realms through the indulgence of their lower emotions.

Their children, Cain and Abel, represent fire and water. Cain represents the fire or head type and Abel represents water, the heart or faith type of person. In Masonry, the Sons of Cain are those who require reason to be convinced, while the Sons of Abel are more docile and will accept faith without reason.

When Cain killed Abel, it meant that the mental, material side of man had dominated the heart, spiritual side. In other words, humanity was becoming more materialistic. So Abel was the keeper of the sheep, always denoting innocence, and Cain was a tiller of the soil, denoting the physical, material, lower self.

In addition to representing different types of people, they also represent aspects within each of us. For we each have our Cain and Abel within. After Cain murdered Abel, he wandered in the Land of Nod, which means trouble or unrest, a lower level of consciousness. The heartless man is troubled and restless. When finally, Cain knows his wife and she begets a child, Enoch, which means wisdom, it indicates that he has come back to his feminine nature and Enoch, or wisdom, is the result of this union between masculine mind and feminine heart.


This is a taste of what I found in this link. It's about the metaphorical layers of the Bible, what's hidden behind the literal story. "Milk for babes, meat for men..." If we take these interpretations to be accurate, we have the history of the flaws and successes of mankind over the years. Why we are the way we are, the traps we fall into, how to resist them, and the ultimate keys to true happiness. At the very least, it makes for an interesting material to peruse with a cup of coffee.


Let me know what you think. Discussions are most welcome, but please be respectful.


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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Ahh, the twists and turns of conceptual metaphors, anthropomorphism, and archetypes(more or less, patterns of behavior)... The bible becomes amazing, especially in application when these are understood. I'd suggest that what you have present is fairly close to the truth.

Just know, you will be flamed heavy for proposing such truths! That's all I really have to say.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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Good post nevertheless. I want to read this more in depth later, but I'm quite sure that the Bible does indeed have some knowledge that people may be over looking. Then again, it could just be a false fabrication made to keep humanity in line



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:55 PM
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Completely worth it. If spiritual truth isn't worth discussing, then nothing is.


And yes, it probably is closer to the truth...considering that during the times the Bible was written, this version of events would never have been accepted. Masculine and feminine co-mingling as equal? Blasphemy!

Additionally, the "spiritual sciences" that would have been discovered as a result could have caused wars that would have prevented us from ever surviving to this stage. Those who have studied these matters will know what I'm talking about.
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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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Behind every story and event is a lesson to be learned regarding humanity.

Unfortunately, as the Bible shows, history keeps repeating itself because most people forget the lesson or choose to ignore it altogether.

So, there's a metaphor behind every true life event.
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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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very interesting. loking forward to reading this. s`n`f for you.
will get comment leter. sorry for typing. have baby in other hand.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Interesting!
It seems like any alternative to the written word that makes some sense is easily accepted by the faithless.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 05:11 PM
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reply to post by deadeyedick
 


Any man who is left hanging long enough will lose faith. Either that, or he will die in vain.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


Great reply.
I don't disagree with you completely.
I just believe that ole saying when things get tough the tough get going.
It is important to dig deep and muster every once of faith because judgement is coming.
I will say that being a bit of a rebel is on my side these days because faith in our savior and the bible is just not cool anymore.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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Not that it isn't cool...it just teaches things that I don't agree with morally.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 06:35 PM
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I'm reminded of this song.


Tell your friends not to think out loud until they swallow.
Whisper things into my brain, your voice sounds so hollow.
I am not a leader of men since I prefer to follow.
Do you think I could have a drink since it's so hard to swallow.
Yeah, so hard to swallow.

Turn your television off and I will sing a song.
And if you suddenly have the urge, you can sing along.
I touch your hand, touch your face; I think the fruit is rotten.
Give me lessons on how to breathe 'cause I think I've forgotten.
Yeah, think I've forgotten.

Ooh, one day out to a cliff that overlooks the water.
I jumped in to save a girl; it was somebody's daughter.
And now the ring that's on my hand was given to me by her.
And to this day, we all sit around and dream of ways to get higher.
Yeah, to get much higher.
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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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How so?



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


I'm not sure it just popped in my head when i read your post.
Maybe i should keep some things to myself.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Metaphors defined in relation to other metaphors does not get you much closer to the true truth. My own research indicates that the Bible is allegory from beginning to end. It may be fun to create new interpretations by altering metaphors, but I prefer to find the true meaning to each metaphor. Just about every idea, action and object presented in the Bible are metaphoric representations of real world ideas. This creates two realities. There is the real world that we live in and the world created by words (which, of course, is flat with four corners). Most people seem content to play in the world of the "above" rather than to dig into the "below".

Biblical allegory is basically a code and this is the same code that has been employed by numerous groups throughout the ages that have masked their secrets with metaphors and symbols. I wish others would take the time to study this allegory for themselves rather than trust what others tell them. (For those interested in trying, I began my own investigation by examing parallels and identifying allusions, which helps to build a context. This eventually led me to the works of Plato because I recognized his "cave". Greek Philosophy is allegory about allegory and this can tell you a lot about nature of the Matrix we live in. Kabbalah and other forms of mysticism can also provide useful literal clues.)



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 11:32 PM
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reply to post by swordwords
 


It seems to me that your sword of truth is broken.
So be it that's just my opinion.



posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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It's not my sword that was broken.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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My spiritual quest didn't begin until I looked beyond the Bible. The Bible is 66 books, chosen by a council (Nicea), based on what was being popularly taught to the Roman people of the time. The Roman people were, obviously, pagan in faith, as that was why Christianity was being forced on them: a state religion. This being so, the books of the Bible contain a lot of myths, events, teachings, laws, and the like which actually originate in older, pagan, mythology, religion, and spirituality. The Bible, and the institution of the Church, alongside Christ, were all political tools meant to unify the pagan peoples' of the Roman empire under a single ruling belief system. At its core then, the Christian religion is a manipulative tool, meant to masquerade as reality and spiritual truth, but not actually representing it. I found a more complete understanding of human spirituality by studying the belief systems of the people which the Church, and the Bible, took their writings from.

For example, in the Biblical story of Noah and the flood, the Lord punishes His creations for their disobedience, and never atones for his own mistake (being all-knowing, he knowingly created a race of men who would become something He did not like). The flood is penance for man becoming sinful. Man is only sinful though, because God knowingly placed them in the same garden as the being who would make them sinful. The Lord knew they would eat from the Tree, at the request of the serpent. He knew they would discover their own flaws, flaws which the Lord had created them with, but tried to hide from them. When they learn of these things, the Lord does not admit His mistake, but instead punishes them for bringing to light His short-comings.

In the Babylonian version, called Atrahasis, the deity Enlil becomes upset with man for man's offensive ways toward the Annunaki (Great Gods). To punish them, he decides to kill them all. The major difference being, the deity Enki steps in and says: "We made the mistake. We made man unruly and aggressive. Let us not punish them for our mistakes, let us not wipe away all life because we have found a fault in it. Instead, let us accept that we did wrong, and let us work to correct that which we corrupted." However, Enlil (a very Yahweh-like figure in Babylonia) ignores Enki and continues with his plan to remove life from Earth.

Enki, seeing the error in Enlil's ways, locates a group of still-pure human beings, Ziusudra (sometimes called Utnapishtam) and his family. Enki secretly helps them construct a vessel so they may survive Enlil's wrath. The mighty flood comes, and most of the life of the Earth is wiped away, save for Ziusudra and his family. Upon discovering this, Enlil rages against Enki, damning Enki for his betrayal. This goes on until Enki comes forth and says: "Look at us, we made man, and man's faults are our doing. We are blaming them for our mistakes. Life must be allowed to survive, so it may grow and learn from the mistakes that we have made. Now, let us try again, this time to help steer man away from our mistakes."

Once Enki has said his piece, the Anunnaki realize he is right. Accepting their own short-comings, they begin to create new humans, who have the capacity to rise above the previous humans mistakes. They also set in place forces which will help keep human beings from becoming as unruly and aggressive as they were the first time. The Annunaki accept their faults, as do men, and both work together to make each other better. In the Biblical version man is blamed for God's mistake, and God corrects His mistake by killing all His creations (save Noah and his family), and then declares that He was right all along, and man must act better, so He won't have to do it again. In fact, God only promises not to use a flood again, but, He continues to punish people for His mistakes, by making them suffer until they bare the burden of His short-comings.

A much more pure spiritual message can be found within the writings of the culture's who influenced the Bible, as the Bible itself is a tool meant to make us feel unworthy of God's grace, or our purest form, unless we accept faults which we are not responsible for.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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In the Babylonian version, called Atrahasis, the deity Enlil becomes upset with man for man's offensive ways toward the Annunaki (Great Gods). To punish them, he decides to kill them all. The major difference being, the deity Enki steps in and says: "We made the mistake. We made man unruly and aggressive. Let us not punish them for our mistakes, let us not wipe away all life because we have found a fault in it. Instead, let us accept that we did wrong, and let us work to correct that which we corrupted."

However, Enlil (a very Yahweh-like figure in Babylonia) ignores Enki and continues with his plan to remove life from Earth. Enki, seeing the error in Enlil's ways, locates a group of still-pure human beings, Ziusudra (sometimes called Utnapishtam) and his family. Enki secretly helps them construct a vessel so they may survive Enlil's wrath. The mighty flood comes, and most of the life of the Earth is wiped away, save for Ziusudra and his family. Upon discovering this, Enlil rages against Enki, damning Enki for his betrayal.

This goes on until Enki comes forth and says: "Look at us, we made man, and man's faults are our doing. We are blaming them for our mistakes. Life must be allowed to survive, so it may grow and learn from the mistakes that we have made. Now, let us try again, this time to help steer man away from our mistakes."


It appears to me that your version of the story doesn't even add up.

From what I can tell, the earth and humans were created when Marduk destroys Tiamat and Kingu.

Humans weren't created by Enki and Enlil as you claim by the quote you posted by Enki.

Probably the only thing even resembling truth in this story would be that Enki and Enlil were the ones responsible for making man "unruly and aggressive".

And if Marduk had power over both Enki and Enlil, what makes you think that he handed down the authority to save or kill mankind to them?

I'd dig a little further back into that Sumerian Family Tree if I were you.
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posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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I like that story. Were these real people? Were their lives or existence documented in any way? Where did you find this story?



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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AfterInfinity, these were all fallen angels that chose to make men believe that they were gods so people would worship them. They chose to follow in Satan's footsteps. We're not the only creation subjected to Satan. This is what I've been trying to point out. If you do a little research on the names you'll see what aspect of the earth that they were considered to be "god" over. In reality, they were angels who were sent here to guard us and the earth as well as lead us, but they all ended up battling between themselves for power instead and led men astray along the way, thus they are now fallen angels. This is why I say Satan is a being. So are angels. They choose who they want to follow and are judged for their ultimate decision as well.






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