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Obama: Chavez Not 'Serious' Threat

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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Another good one from Obama !!

He now has proclaimed that our old commie buddy Hugo Chavez is not a threat to the U.S.

Well maybe he's not, but he sure talks like he wants to be


Chavez seems to like Obama, and he hated Bush with a wild passion.
Hmmm.


story from Breitbart

Hugo Chavez might be shipping fuel to the murderous Syrian regime. He might be helping the genocidal Iranian regime build a missile base in Venezuela that can target the United States directly. He might have supported Muammar Qaddafi, just as he has supported terrorism in Columbia and incited hatred against Israel. He might have tried to undermine constitutional democracy in Honduras and across the continent. He might hate America and launch into anti-American diatribes at every opportunity. But according to President Barack Obama, Venezuelan strongman Hugo Chavez is not a "serious" national security threat.




President Obama, speaking to Miami journalist Oscar Haza, said that "what Mr. Chávez has done over the last several years has not had a serious national security impact on us."




If the above (abridged) list of actions against the U.S. and its allies does not constitute "a serious national security impact," then nothing is. The U.S. has gone to war over less--most recently in Libya, where Obama acted because of the threat of atrocities.

The president said that his main concern in Venezuela was the quality of its democracy--and yet one of his first foreign policy acts as president was to greet Chavez warmly at the Summit of the Americas in April 2009. Showing such support for a would-be dictator sent exactly the opposite signal about Venezuelan democracy.

If Chavez is not a "serious" national security threat, President Obama is not serious about national security.



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Pssst !! Barry thinks nobody is "listening"




posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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He's not a threat.

He may not like us, he may talk trash...but he is impotent and is not a threat.


Sorry if I don't live in the Right Wing fear based world where we have to kill everyone that disagrees with us.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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Your story line from your source is full of MIGHTS.

How does a might prove that Chavez is a threat to the US?



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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I think the Ronald McDonald clown is more of a threat.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by jam321
reply to post by xuenchen
 


Your story line from your source is full of MIGHTS.

How does a might prove that Chavez is a threat to the US?


It doesn't...but the Right Wing depends on irrational fear and hatred from their voter base.

It's election season...time to start creating some enemies for them to hate.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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Wow, do you honestly believe he is a threat to our nations security?

Sometimes people aren't going to like you, it doesn't mean you have to go over to their house and punch them in the face.

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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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What's a Hugo Chavez?

Never heard of 'em before.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Chavez is only a threat because he has refused to submit to becoming part of the International central banking scam, he shares the profits from oil with the people of Venezuela and keeps it dirt cheap for them as well.

Ohh nooos! He's using free-market capitalism to sell his products to people that want to buy it?
Damn capitalists!

The US buys and sells with China...does that mean we are a threat to our own security?

I'm sorry, but stuff like this my children can see right through. Why do grown adults try to insult our intelligence by not only writing this sort of crap, but believing it?



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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lol
Pssst !! Barry is running for reelection at the mo
and fears antagonizing the latino voters

should he win don't be surprised if chavez gets droned nov 6



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:24 PM
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I tend to agree with Obamas assessment and the majority of the opinion on the thread.

Chavez is a Jackass and a nuisance to his neighbours but no threat to the USA at all.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Chavez is only a threat because he has refused to submit to becoming part of the International central banking scam, he shares the profits from oil with the people of Venezuela and keeps it dirt cheap for them as well.

Ohh nooos! He's using free-market capitalism to sell his products to people that want to buy it?
Damn capitalists!

The US buys and sells with China...does that mean we are a threat to our own security?

I'm sorry, but stuff like this my children can see right through. Why do grown adults try to insult our intelligence by not only writing this sort of crap, but believing it?


It's from Breitbart. Almost everything they put out is an insult to a adults intelligence.
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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Elect Mitt Romney!!!! He will bomb Venezuela!

Just awesome...I love the GOP fear machine!!



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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So Obama and a few posters think that Chavez is no threat which is par for the course because they are the same people who also say Iran is no threat, and then again those are the same people who go around defending radical Islam.

Doesn't really matter what source the op or someone else can put up like these 2:

www.dailymail.co.uk...

digitaljournal.com...

Which both site DIE WELT which we all know is not a American website but after all again Chavez is no threat, Iran is no threat "terrorists" are the boogeyman.

IF that statement is to be truth then why for the last 3 years have drone attacks increased and the nobel peace prize winner has a mountain of blood on his hands.

Oh and then why for the last 3 years has the current Administration wage a cyberware on Iran.

Chavez and Ahmedenijad are doing business together, and bases are being built seems to me this is cause of liberal blinders.

No folks nothing to see here, and they will be claiming that right when Iran,Venezula launch a missile at the us to add something more to this comment Iran did launch their "spanish speaking " state sponsored "news" network.

Chavez is a threat take the political blinders off.

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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Oh please. Chavez is a Pomeranian. All snappy and such but no bite. What's he going to do? Cut off oil shipments to the US? Your biggest supplier of oil is Canada. Iran, the same but it's not the topic. It's time that some stop listening to the MSM's fear mongering.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Ok Neo, it seems where we disagree usually is in how you come to your conclusions and the rhetoric you use to get there.



So Obama and a few posters think that Chavez is no threat which is par for the course because they are the same people who also say Iran is no threat, and then again those are the same people who go around defending radical Islam.


Iran and Venezuela have not posed a threat to you, I or any other person on US soil. Sad but true. They have not attacked anyone.

But you use a very simple propaganda technique when you try to tie the opinion that Iran/Venezuela is not a threat to those that support radical Islam. Really? Is your argument so bad that you have to go right to radical Islam?



IF that statement is to be truth then why for the last 3 years have drone attacks increased and the nobel peace prize winner has a mountain of blood on his hands.


Because it is Obama's job to continue the wars to satisfy the military-industrial complex that ensures he stays in office.



Oh and then why for the last 3 years has the current Administration wage a cyberware on Iran.


Because they are pussies! Heaven forbid they actually make the case to the world that action needs to be taken against Iran.......so instead let's mess with Iran from across the globe.




Chavez is a threat take the political blinders off.


No, you and people like you are the threat. You never produce evidence to back up your claims yet you call for action against another sovereign nation just because you are a scared little pansy. If we did things your way, we would have killed a bunch of people for no reason and no evidence to justify it.

If you had your way, we would have flattened the entire Middle East.....South America....Mexico....China(actually all places Asian folk live).......and every place in America where people on food stamps and welfare live.

And of course, with no evidence. You ever think to yourself that it would be kinda crappy to go around killing people and being wrong in the end? What if you are wrong?



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
So Obama and a few posters think that Chavez is no threat which is par for the course because they are the same people who also say Iran is no threat, and then again those are the same people who go around defending radical Islam.


Chavez is not muslim. Iran is less of threat than it's neighbor which we invaded after the last GOP POTUS fear mongered and lied us into that mess.


Originally posted by neo96

IF that statement is to be truth then why for the last 3 years have drone attacks increased and the nobel peace prize winner has a mountain of blood on his hands.


Cuz the Obama Docterine involves special forces, limited strategic strikes and actually killing real terrorists, not invading countries where someone told us that they talked to some guy that said there might be Al-Qaida and WMDs there.


Originally posted by neo96
Oh and then why for the last 3 years has the current Administration wage a cyberware on Iran.


Because that is the level of response the warrant...Hackers in the Pentagon, not another cluster-ef with 300k American Soldiers on the ground in harms way like the "Neo" Conservatives want.


Originally posted by neo96
Chavez and Ahmedenijad are doing business together, and bases are being built seems to me this is cause of liberal blinders.


And China is the principle backer of North Korea and Iran! Should we invade China next?

Boy...Iran, China...now Venezuela!...Blackwater better start hiring now! Actually we might not have enough troops to cover it, maybe we can outsource to China? We can raise taxes on the middle class to cover the costs.


Originally posted by neo96
No folks nothing to see here, and they will be claiming that right when Iran,Venezula launch a missile at the us


Yes Iran and "Venezula" are going to launch missles at us any day now!!

Just perfect that you don't even know how to spell the country you want to destroy. 10 to 1 you can't find it on a map.

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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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Iran and Venezuela have not posed a threat to you, I or any other person on US soil. Sad but true. They have not attacked anyone.


Sorry but there are those who will disagree:

Iran's proxy wars against Isreal, and the Us in Iraq,and Afghanistan funding Hamas,and Hezzbollah, then of course we have Syrians dying from Iranian arms, the assassinations attempts of the Isreali,and Saudi ambassdors, the kidnapping of 3 American kidnappers, the latest victim the suppose "mossad" spy.

But Americans being killed by Iran in Iraq should make anyone upset but that won't and there will be those who will continue to defend them.

Forgot go ask those people in Irans section 209.


But you use a very simple propaganda technique when you try to tie the opinion that Iran/Venezuela is not a threat to those that support radical Islam. Really? Is your argument so bad that you have to go right to radical Islam?


"the argument" is that Iran is control by "radical islam" hello? Islamic radical theocracy which is a dangerous combination because of the Venezula/Iran aliiance which is the same thing has their alliance between Hamas and Hezzbollah,

Iran has a history of using others for their own gain.




Because it is Obama's job to continue the wars to satisfy the military-industrial complex that ensures he stays in office.


There is no such thing as the military industrial complex pick up anything and people see made in China.




Because they are [snip] Heaven forbid they actually make the case to the world that action needs to be taken against Iran.......so instead let's mess with Iran from across the globe.


So Iran having bases in Venezula is ok sounds like Iran is messing with others from across the globe.




No, you and people like you are the threat. You never produce evidence to back up your claims yet you call for action against another sovereign nation just because you are a scared little pansy. If we did things your way, we would have killed a bunch of people for no reason and no evidence to justify it.


Care to quote anywhere I called for action against them?

Obama has taken action against them with his cyber ware and his murder sprees all I have done is sit here and type a post.

And who is the problem?

Who is the murder?



f you had your way, we would have flattened the entire Middle East.....South America....Mexico....China(actually all places Asian folk live).......and every place in America where people on food stamps and welfare live.


What a high class piece of hyperbole go on quote exactly where i said anything remotely close.
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posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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The Republican Response - from The Washington Post

Republicans wasted no time responding. Mitt Romney released the following statement: “This is a stunning and shocking comment by the president. It is disturbing to see him downplaying the threat posed to U.S. interests by a regime that openly wishes us ill. Hugo Chavez has provided safe haven to drug kingpins, encouraged regional terrorist organizations that threaten our allies like Colombia, has strengthened military ties with Iran and helped it evade sanctions, and has allowed a Hezbollah presence within his country's borders. And he is seeking to lead — together with [Cuba's] Castros — a destabilizing, anti-democratic, and anti-American ‘Bolivarian Revolution’ across Latin America.”

Former New Hampshire governor John Sununu weighed in: “When President Obama says, as he did in a television interview on Monday, that Chavez has not had ‘a serious national security impact on us,’ he’s dead wrong. Such a statement by an American president itself damages U.S. national security by emboldening one of the most anti-American actors on the international stage.”

And Florida Sen. Marco Rubio: “Hugo Chavez is not only a threat to the Venezuelan people’s freedom and democratic aspirations, he has also supported Iran’s regime in its attempts to expand its intelligence network throughout the hemisphere, facilitated money laundering activities that finance state sponsors of terrorism and provided a safe haven for FARC narco-terrorists, among many other actions


Not mentioned above ... Chavez providing support to the Syrian regime that is mass killing civilians.

MY response - Chavez is a threat to his own people. He doesn't have ICBMs, but he's also not someone who we should turn a blind eye to. He has made his anti-America sentiments clear. It would be best not to give him an opening to fulfill his anti-American desires.

Taipei Times - Chavez Calls for the Downfall of the USA



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Chavez is not muslim. Ir


Who said he was?



Iran is less of threat than it's neighbor which we invaded after the last GOP POTUS fear mongered and lied us into that mess.


Wasn't for that last GOP Potus operation olympic games would not have ever been created to be used




Cuz the Obama Docterine involves special forces, limited strategic strikes and actually killing real terrorists, not invading countries where someone told us that they talked to some guy that said there might be Al-Qaida and WMDs there.


Still makes Obama a murder.



Because that is the level of response the warrant...Hackers in the Pentagon, not another cluster-ef with 300k American Soldiers on the ground in harms way like the "Neo" Conservatives want.


Neo conservative sitting in the oval office after all the wars never ended and who spread freedom and democracy in libya,Yemen,Somaila,Pakistan.

That would be the neo conservative murder OBama.




And China is the principle backer of North Korea and Iran! Should we invade China next?


Who is calling for invasion of any country in this thread?

Quote it.

The rest off topic.



posted on Jul, 11 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
All snappy and such but no bite.

He's a wanna-be bad guy. His country is geographically in a good position to launch anti-American operations from. Not ICBMs or nuclear bombs or those big things. But the other things that drain a society .. drug running and cyber attacks and the rest. He's a small guy who dreams of being a big anti-american world player. It's best to keep an eye on him.



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