Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by XPLodER
See that's the problem. Taxes aren't a completely bad thing as long as you know where it's going. See, I would feel GOOD about paying taxes for a
library because I use mine weekly. The Tea Partiers there were obviously complete idiots. Maybe they should just issue library cards to everyone that
opts out (or in) to that particular tax. That way the Tea Partiers couldn't use the library. That would be swell.
The tea party didn't start off bad the problem came when the Tea Party super stars came along and changed what it was about. So instead of
intelligent people you have a bunch of idiot TPers that think that all taxes are the same and should be done away with. That's what happens when you
boil down and idea. You dumb it down for dumb people and then you have a mess on your hands.
The Tea Party started out as a good thing. Unfortunately it was co-opted.
My only real problem is the income tax. The income tax should be illegal.
See, we don't need anywhere near as many taxes as we pay.
What's wrong with paying for the use of your library? We all pay it anyway, in taxes. So those who don't use the library have to pay for it, not
The list of useless taxes goes on and on and on.
The list of taxes that "need" to be paid are relatively small.
Taxes for municipality and city service. I.E. Police and Fire Fighters and Roads. EMS doesn't count, because they charge you 2 grand if you need
an ambulance, and that's just for the ride.
We don't need a federal government, we only need state governments, so federal income tax is bunk. All we need federally is a small council to make
sure the states comply with the constitution. Anything else is excess.
That is all that is really needed for society.
I'd love to see any nation attack a free society, it'll never happen because the people become the military. You only need a taxed based military
if you plan to go on the offensive. Real Talk.
Just imagine if the trillions of dollars that are spent on military power were used for science and education instead....
How many alphabet agencies are there anyway?
I mean, just look at the redundancy, F.B.I. federal bureau of investigation. They investigate and deal with intelligence. Then you have the C.I.A,
Counter/Central Intelligence Agency.
Why do we need both of these? We don't.
Then there is the Department of Education. Since we have one, education has declined, I vote get rid of it.
Then we have the T.S.A, Transportation Security Agency. I thought we had police already? X it out.
Then we have The Department of Homeland Security. What do they do that the Department of Defense doesn't already do?
I say x it out too.
Child Protection Agency. What is it they do that the Administration for Children and Families can't do?
I say X it out.
ATF, again.... we have police and the FBI, so why do we need the ATF?
X it out.
The list goes on and on and on and on and on. There are literally hundreds of overlaps... All federal. So we pay to have federal departments on top
of our state departments that do the same things.
The truth is, the federal government is WAY to BLOATED. If we trimmed all the fat and made it a lean machine, we wouldn't have to pay anywhere near
as much taxes. 95% of the taxes should be state taxes.
Then add this to the fact that major corporations pay negative taxes [read; get paid by the government] and you can see that EASILY the federal
government could survive off of corporate taxes if they just taxed corporation owners getting paid billions.
Nobody needs a billion dollars. Nobody. The fact that we allow this to happen has very serious negative side affects on society.
We live in a very inefficient, non-transparent system. It literally needs to be torn down and streamlined and made to be clear. All actions of the
federal government should be obvious to the people supporting it. However, it's not. It's veiled in darkness and black budgets....
The real truth is, nobody has a clue why we pay the amount we do, we just do it because they demand it.
If the government garnishes my check for their taxes, WHY DO I HAVE TO FILE?
I mean, they take take take, and when I file I get money back. If I'm getting money back, why do I have to file? Why don't they just send me my
check? It's just like the reoccurring subscription scams. They hope you forget so they can keep what's not rightfully theirs.
IMO, the tea party has it wrong, and all those that are pro tax have it wrong as well. We need to restructure and kick the banking cartel to the
Have you ever heard that, money doesn't come from nothing? Well, why then, does the bank get money from nothing? They don't provide a service,
they hold your money and make money simply by holding it.