This is a good idea.
People do resonate with anger and resentment..they will more likely vote out of anger than logic..so, just show the flipside of an argument presented and let people realize they can have a choice.

Colbertism I guess it can be called...but do it with a straight face for ages and really build the public anger up enough to get off their arse and vote for reason verses do nothing.

Good video, good thread. S&F

Originally posted by 11235813213455
You have absolutely 0 right to tell anyone when they have made enough. You sir are the greedy one who would take what you have not earned.

Question for everyone

If I walk up to you on the street and reach into your pocket to take a dollar because I need it, is that theft?

You mean the street paid for by tax dollars?
No, its not theft, because the person whom took it from you used it to make the street your standing on with your righteous indignation

Tell me, if your standing on the street I paid for with my taxes spouting off about how taxes are bad, is it trespassing considering your disowning the street, yet using it...?

derp logic 101...you can't even make a analogy without showing benefits of society via tax and spend collective.
Go read a book...at a library..about how taxes are always bad. Then look up the definition of irony.

All taxes are fair game for anyone or any group that wishes to challenge them as excessive or oppressive. Specific taxes can be rescinded in the exact manner they were enacted.

How bout we simply realize that we are being divided against each other for a reason.

Instead of battling over the labels we have assigned one another, we should be uniting against the current system.

Republican, Democrat doesn't really matter, we're still getting screwed.

Question the system that leads people to be at each other's throats.

Compromise or die.

After fifty years of life and innumerable discussions I have come to some conclusions.

First a little background info. i am once married to one woman. I have three children. We make approx. 80k a year pretax now. When we first got married 20 yrs ago about 50k. We always pay cash for vehicles. We live in a paid for 3800 sq ft house on 1.3 acres. This on the outskirts of a top 20 city. We enjoy vacations.[ always paid for in cash]. We both have retirement accounts. What we do not have is debt. We do not have a lcd or plasma tv. We do not have but basic phone service. Our cars are seven yeaars old. We do not drink, use tobacco, use drugs, get tattoos, smoke or gamble[lottery included]. We eat responsibly at home. We always give 10% off the top to church. We always put aside some for savings. So we are not rich but better off than the majority of Americans. Why? Our lifestyle is different.

So here goes.

Food stamps should only be allowed to buy staples.[i.e. beans, rice, some meat. not frozen pizza, chips, and soda] If we cannot afford them on what we make you should be able to afford them on MY taxes.

if you live on government housing, you should not have appliances that are noy necessary for survival. [ no big screens, no gaming machines.] You should be required to keep up said property. If recieving govt aid a garden should be required.

Mandatory birth control should be required while on govt aid. If you cannot afford the children you have you sure cannot afford any more.

Work of some sort should be required. If not spending time looking for a job, then you should be required to help keep the city and public housing sectors up.

You should not be allowed to vote while recieving public assistance of any sort. [You should not have a say in what you are given by voting in those that promise more. i.e. see ancient Roman Empire]

if you cannot pass basic literacy tests you should be required to do so before recieving public assistance. [Everyone that is born in the US has ample opportunity to get a FREE taxpayer paid education.[ Public assitance should be unsavory and unwanted. Used as a last resort.

In other words you should be doing your best to get off of it and not looking to increase yourself by it. It should be a hand up not a hand out. I know too many good people that worked their way out of a poor environment to not believe that it is anyones fault but their own. Wash windows, cut grass, pick up scrap. find something to do. It can be done.

We need to cut out the National Endowment for the Arts, Return the education of our children back to the states and do away with the Dept. of Education. We need to close the Dept of energy that has not done anything to help the energy issues. close federal HHs. Limit term of politicians. And cut spending across the board. Instill torte reform and put the burden of expense on the loser of frivoulous lawsuits. Eliminate corporate lobbyists. And I could go on and on.

After we do all this then we can discuss raising taxes!

By the way I don't know anyone in the TP movement that is not willing to pay their fair share of taxes.

Reluctantpawn