We must vote Obama out of office.., page 7

reply to post by grandmakdw

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No I don't vote and I pity and worry about the ones that do.....don't worry about my mind...worry about your own mind.

People with your opinion should not go vote, especially if you think

Please think next time you are at a voting station.
Next time you tell me to think...look in a mirror and don't masturbate expecting me to pay attention to your way of thinking...people with your opinion should think more instead of telling others what to do...no??

reply to post by DrumsRfun

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Gawd I miss George. No one could cut through the BS like that man. RIP

reply to post by Evanzsayz

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So who will you be voting for?

reply to post by Evanzsayz

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I just have to wonder....... what percent of the Wall Street crooks and the banking crooks are Republicans? You know, the kind of people that want to do away with those pesky regulations that make a feeble attempt to keep greed in reign?

And I wonder.... how a recession/depression that was already under way when Obama took office, gets blamed on Obama instead of the previous administration of 8 years that set the entire economy up for a fall by doing a number of detrimental things such as starting two wars at the same time as cutting taxes while also cutting regulations? Huh. And the bailout..... TARP, which started under Bush........ also Obama's fault?

And I suppose I should believe that fewer regulations are a good thing? And that Romney isn't just an Exceptionally Wealthy Elitist who was a predator of businesses so he could take them over and sell off the assets and jobs, will look out for the poor or newly poor (former middle class) and what's left of the middle class?

And of course, I should believe that taxing the wealthy means hurting the "job creators".... but wait, if your bank account is full..... then the money isn't in the economy, and it isn't creating jobs either. Huh. How does that work? Being extremely wealthy creates jobs? You mean like, chauffeurs, gardeners, maids, cooks, car washers, yacht washers.... those kinds of jobs?

And being a rich CEO or on the Board of Directors or a VP, with an extravagant salary instead of sharing the wealth and only concentrating it, is good for the economy or the workers or research and development for the company...... that's good too?

And letting Corporations or billionaires and millionaires flood the elections with money that represents only a very few opinions (and favor seekers) and drowning out all average citizens is a good thing?

So;...... Who's deluded and brainwashed? Those who vote for the Greedy Oligarch Party!

Originally posted by texasgirl
reply to post by Advantage

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That is a chance I'd rather take than vote for someone who goes against the constitution. I want someone who is willing to fight for me.

Other than Obama infringing on our rights. How has Romney gone against the constitution? What legislation has he personally passed that has removed any of our constitutional rights? I know you want Ron Paul to win but it isnt going to happen. So why not at least look at the alternatives rather than just listening to what the Obama camp wants you to believe about Romney?

Originally posted by DrumsRfun
reply to post by grandmakdw

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No I don't vote and I pity and worry about the ones that do.....don't worry about my mind...worry about your own mind.

People with your opinion should not go vote, especially if you think

Please think next time you are at a voting station.
Next time you tell me to think...look in a mirror and don't masturbate expecting me to pay attention to your way of thinking...people with your opinion should think more instead of telling others what to do...no??

edit on 11-7-2012 by DrumsRfun because: (no reason given)

edit on 11-7-2012 by DrumsRfun because: (no reason given)

I like this. Your telling all of us that you worry about us as if you know something that the rest of us dont. Then below your telling us we should think more instead of telling others what to do? Isnt that a bit hypocritical? Who is to say that you are right? I dont think you are right. I think this is the propaganda that Obama would love for people to believe because the less of us that go vote the better his chances are of staying in office. You can pretend no ones votes matter but they in fact too and that constitution that you all seem so hell bent on protecting is the very document that makes sure those votes do count so if you love that document and want to protect it then the way to do that is to vote, it is to exercise your rights. Do I think voting fraud goes on? yes I do. but I think they are getting better and better at detecting it and if some of the laws that are trying to be passed would stop getting blocked by the dems we could stop worrying about the rights of illegals at the polling places and fix some of it. But for now it is about as good as we can get it given the tools we have. But your vote does count. So stop acting like you are better than everyone here and that you are some type of superior person because your above the whole voting thing. Your a person just like the rest of us and you put your pants on one leg at a time.

Originally posted by jaxnmarko
reply to post by Evanzsayz

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I just have to wonder....... what percent of the Wall Street crooks and the banking crooks are Republicans? You know, the kind of people that want to do away with those pesky regulations that make a feeble attempt to keep greed in reign?

And I wonder.... how a recession/depression that was already under way when Obama took office, gets blamed on Obama instead of the previous administration of 8 years that set the entire economy up for a fall by doing a number of detrimental things such as starting two wars at the same time as cutting taxes while also cutting regulations? Huh. And the bailout..... TARP, which started under Bush........ also Obama's fault?

And I suppose I should believe that fewer regulations are a good thing? And that Romney isn't just an Exceptionally Wealthy Elitist who was a predator of businesses so he could take them over and sell off the assets and jobs, will look out for the poor or newly poor (former middle class) and what's left of the middle class?

And of course, I should believe that taxing the wealthy means hurting the "job creators".... but wait, if your bank account is full..... then the money isn't in the economy, and it isn't creating jobs either. Huh. How does that work? Being extremely wealthy creates jobs? You mean like, chauffeurs, gardeners, maids, cooks, car washers, yacht washers.... those kinds of jobs?

And being a rich CEO or on the Board of Directors or a VP, with an extravagant salary instead of sharing the wealth and only concentrating it, is good for the economy or the workers or research and development for the company...... that's good too?

And letting Corporations or billionaires and millionaires flood the elections with money that represents only a very few opinions (and favor seekers) and drowning out all average citizens is a good thing?

So;...... Who's deluded and brainwashed? Those who vote for the Greedy Oligarch Party!

OK.. Lets look at this then. First, I dont think anyone here has blamed Obama for the downturn in the economy. If I am wrong, feel free to find where we said so. What he is being blamed for is failing to get anything positive going and for generally passing legislation that borders on communism or socialism and not having the American peoples best interest in mind.

As far as banks being republican they more than likely are. Its called being conservative and those with lots of money tend to be conservative. They didnt get rich by handing all of their money to others. But I see the root of this now. Your jealous because they made a lot of money and have a big bank account. I am sorry that some in this county have worked hard and made sound business decisions. It happens though. Why does that automatically make them bad people? If you look at it, most of those people started out with nothing and were just common people early on. But I digress. Look at all of the states that vote Republican. It is the majority of them by the way. But many and most of them are agricultural states, not your big money states. Why do you think that is? Do you think that Farmer John is all about big banks and corporations? No. he is about the constitution and the government staying out of his way and not regulating him out of business. You know who the largest demographic is for the Dems? It is poor people and union workers. Do you know why? Poor people love hand outs and government support and Unions love MONEY and the Dems give them raises in the form or minimum wage hikes and allowing them to stay in business.

And contrary to what you might think, we need those rich people that you seem to think should just hand over their money. They are the ones taking all of the business risks so the rest of us can work and be able to quit any time we want and not lose our shirts. Those guys open a company and dont have the luxury of just quitting. And those taxes you think are so bad will run the government for 8 days. 8 DAYS. There are 365 days in a year in-case you did not know. But that same money can be better used putting it back into businesses and the economy, not the government bank account. Because unless you didn't know our government IS big business and right now it is as big as it has ever been. It is huge and it is hemorrhaging money at an alarming rate. Those taxes you are talking about are nothing more than a campaign too to be able to scream about rich guys hording money and you bought it hook line and sinker. We need those rich guys and frankly, when has it been against the American way for a guy to go out and make money? When did we become a society with our hand out where we want someone else to go out and make lots of money just so we can take it from them and give it to everyone else?

Originally posted by TheTardis

Originally posted by texasgirl
reply to post by Advantage

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That is a chance I'd rather take than vote for someone who goes against the constitution. I want someone who is willing to fight for me.

Other than Obama infringing on our rights. How has Romney gone against the constitution? What legislation has he personally passed that has removed any of our constitutional rights? I know you want Ron Paul to win but it isnt going to happen. So why not at least look at the alternatives rather than just listening to what the Obama camp wants you to believe about Romney?

I have looked at Romney. I've been a Republican most of my life and made the mistake of voting for Bush the first time, then Obmana the last time. I am upset of what is happening to this country. While Romney hasn't violated the constituion (that I know of) I don't trust him and here's a little bit why:

Romney has kept his finances secret. After much pressure he released only one year's tax return and it was revealed that he paid only 14% in taxes for 2010.

He has a swiss bank account and tens of millions invested in the Cayman Islands, which is known for being a tax haven.

Then there's his IRA: IRA accounts limit annual contributions to a few thousand dollars a year but, somehow, Romney's ended up with somewhere between 20 million and 100 million. He refuses to release his financial records.

This man wants to cut the tax rates on the rich. Of course, he's rich, so that makes sense.

He wants to appeal Obamacare but his own healthcare system in Massachusettes is practically identical. What I fear is that if he wins then he will uphold Obamacare. And THAT is unconstituional.

I don't trust this man. I did in the beginning but that was before I really even knew anything about him. The more I learned and the more debates I watched I became distrustful of what he said.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by grandmakdw

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After reading all your replies that are exactly the same...I think it's safe to say you don't like Obama.

But my question to you is....do you like and support Romney???


Are you simply going to vote against Obama...or do you actually have principles and values to go out and support someone you truly 100% support???

Sorry, but I have to ask....................
With the track record of Politicians, how can any logical thinking person with principles and values, truly support a candidate 100% from either side of a political system. I personally believe that the problem with voter's today [and in the past], is that they align themselves 100% to one side, almost to the point that they won't even acknowledge fair points raised by the other party, due to their unweilding support of the other party.
Wouldn't a better way of thinking be, to not align oneself to a party and consider all options, rather then voting for a party of choice, as if it was a football team where even if you look at the view point of a rival team then you are considered a "traitor" by the "loyal" supporters ?
People need to start voting on a ploicy point of view, rather than a political party point of view. I'm not implying that you, Outkast searcher, are like this, but I see it so often from so many that if just makes me wonder if we'll ever learn ?

reply to post by texasgirl

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Obama has just tried to keep his entire past secret. Why would one discount Romney about financial disclosure? Is he supporting capitalism? Of course he is. That's the point. I am not afraid of George Soro's or similar types supporting Romney behind closed doors. However, I am very scared of the financial support for Obama. I think he is directed to do everything he does.

reply to post by Hope4peace

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I don't think I'll be voting at all...I'm not sure yet.

reply to post by TheTardis

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I work for the wealthy here in Jackson Hole, at their homes, which are usually sterile feeling log mansions that are only occupied a few weeks a year. This week a friend of mine who also works for them related how two families he worked for were going to hang out with Mitt and Dick Cheney at a local Country Club for dinner for $ 50,000 per person and you could go to Dick's house later for an extra $30,000. He said they were both taking their kids, ages 10 and below for a total for the 2 families of nearly half a million dollars. I know families with 10 houses, multiple planes, and who knows how many cars and boats. Am I jealous? No, but I would like to know my healthcare is reasonable and sufficient. And I worried about Social Security? Yes, because I have put in my whole life. Do I think they should pay a larger share of taxes? Yes, I do. Why? Most of what they have is because of America. America that fought for their rights. Most of the extremely wealthy have not enlisted for the wars. Ordinary citizens make up most of our country. Ordinary citizens have allowed the wealthy to get wealthy, for the most part. As the bulk of the consumers, we buy the bulk of the products. As the bulk of the people, we make up the soldiers and sailors and other armed forces that have fought and died to protect the capitalistic society we live in.
I am not talking about rich, I am talking about ultra rich. Billionaires and multimillionaires. Our society and economy have been damaged.... to a large extent by people who were already wealthy but not wealthy enough in their minds. I find that unethical and immoral. I see unreasonable amounts of wealth that is spent on selfish stuff and there is so much excess wealth, surely some could go to help society's ills, not just to give me money! I firmly believe in EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT and getting rid of GOVERNMENT WASTE AND FRAUD, and people who abuse the system should be punished. But for our society to work, we must work together as Americans and not constantly be divided between labels and groups. We seem to have forgotten what it means to be United. We all want our children to have a better future. I am not talking about distributing money as Robin Hood, but maybe a bit of philanthropy rather than an extra yacht? Some higher taxes that are EASILY afforded? Must one's income be increased by 10 million a year instead of 5 million a year? Isn't that about greed maybe? Striving to accumulate far more than is needed? Why, to brag? Show off?
I think Romney is an Elitist who is far more concerned about other wealthy people than ALL AMERICANS, and I may not be an Obama fan, but what I hear about Romney is NOT encouraging!

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