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posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by dplum517
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ATG, you have not debunked Chemtrails ...... not sure how else get you to understand that.


you seem to be starting with an assumption that this thread is about debunking chemtrails - so it is no wonder that you are having difficulty.




posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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I'm sorry..... it was about this.




Thinking back to when this forum opened early 2011, there were a lot of whoops and cries of delight from chemtrail believers that this was (paraphrasing) finally going to give them the platform they needed to bring the evil to the notice of the world and get it stopped.


All of which is made up ....... "bring the evil to the notice of the world and get it stopped."

Are you serious? Who said that? one of us "believers" I'm sure.

I simply petitioned for this forum to be made because it would help with the dialog and keep all the conspiracy theories grouped together.

But apparently this forum is for one of your pipe dreams of categorizing every "believer" into one big group of idiots.



posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Oh this is my favorite forum, it is where all the super smart sexy guys hang out and bash chemmies, which is a big turn on for me. It's better than porn.

Every time I see a dancing chicken, an airplane, a hang glider, clouds, I get a boner. Thank god for geoengineering threads on ATS! Let the chemmies do their delusional circle jerk on geoengineering watch and carnicrap...here we deny ignorance and I get to indulge in ecstatic fantasy about my fellow debunkers! It's crazy awesome!!

Thanks for the thread Aloysius you beefcake. xx



posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 04:51 PM
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I've never argued the seasonal Contrails. I understand and have observed the effects of seasons on contrails. Ya they stay around a little longer in the winter and on really humid days.

But that doesn't equate to big grids or patterns of trails on certain days that have a multitude of unaccountable planes in the sky.

I have not seen one of those days in a while. Last one was in October of last year. When a day like that happens I still notice the small trails that may or may not linger.

You're just not getting that at one point people saw huge grids that are no longer happening in certain areas.



posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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As always, I have to wonder, why start a thread to basically ridicule those that dont believe as you do? Seems like people are trying to draw attention to this topic, under the guise of debunking it.



posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 05:02 PM
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Originally posted by dplum517
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I'm sorry..... it was about this.




Thinking back to when this forum opened early 2011, there were a lot of whoops and cries of delight from chemtrail believers that this was (paraphrasing) finally going to give them the platform they needed to bring the evil to the notice of the world and get it stopped.


All of which is made up ....... "bring the evil to the notice of the world and get it stopped."

Are you serious? Who said that? one of us "believers" I'm sure.


As I said - I was paraphrasing, and I linked to a thread in the OP - I'll go find some moer if you like.....


I simply petitioned for this forum to be made because it would help with the dialog and keep all the conspiracy theories grouped together.


fine...and..er....so??


But apparently this forum is for one of your pipe dreams of categorizing every "believer" into one big group of idiots.


I don't beleive I used the word idiot anywhere, but if you think it is accurate then fair enough.
edit on 12-7-2012 by Aloysius the Gaul because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 12 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by dplum517
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You're just not getting that at one point people saw huge grids that are no longer happening in certain areas.



But when the weather is right for it, they will again, whatever time of year it is. I would fully expect that to lead to claims of it having started again, because thats exactly what we see every year. This is what you are not getting.



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by fireyaguns

I love it.

What a fantastic way to work out who is observant and willing to question what seems wrong and who has their head stuck firm in the sand.

I can see from all the threads I've read so far that the chemtrail believers here on ATS are free thinkers and know something is not right and the debunkers of chemtrails are limited to except (sic) facts only...


Indeed. It is sometimes difficult being limited to facts, when it is SO much easier to not be constrained by facts and just use the MSU method (make snip up).



posted on Jul, 13 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by dplum517
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I've never argued the seasonal Contrails. I understand and have observed the effects of seasons on contrails. Ya they stay around a little longer in the winter and on really humid days.

But that doesn't equate to big grids or patterns of trails on certain days that have a multitude of unaccountable planes in the sky.


The 'grid' is obvious. Planes fly in regular flight paths, and wind carries the trails off the path, meaning the next plane that comes along will create a trail that will appear parallel to the previous.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'unaccountable planes', but I doubt you'll provide any evidence.


I have not seen one of those days in a while. Last one was in October of last year.



posted on Jul, 17 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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if persistent contrail can and do exist, they how is it possible that anyone can look into the sky and claim the lines they see are anything other than contrails? Yes, even grid patterns which are easily explained by lots of traffic on the same route and then bisecting routes.

If you are happy scaring yourself and others, they please, continue to ignore simple facts, but you cannot have it both ways. Once you see that, you will understand how frustrating it is trying to get a chemtrail believer to think for themselves.





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