Quiet Mitt...Shhhh

Today, the Real Clear Politics Polling by Rasmussen puts Romney ahead of Obama by three points. The Washington Times has Romney winning by one point, and ABC News has Romney actually being tied with the President! Yesterday, RCP Gallup Poll had Obama only leading by 2 points!!! and the majority of Americans think the country is heading in the WRONG direction!!!!

www.realclearpolitics.com...

This after his two MAJOR MAJOR political "announcements" more like spins.

Obamatax was passed constitutionally and the Job Report which is "heading in the right direction."

I think people are tired of hearing vagueness coming from their commander and chief and want someone who will give it to them straight. Conservatives are pushing Romney to go out and attack Obama or at least respond to his attack ads. I don't think Romney is that type of person. You can see a stark contrast between him and Ronald Reagan.

Consider that the issues are exactly THE same. “prices, interest rates, unemployment, taxes, or the fear for the future of their old age or the future of their children …” Consider that we have a World-First America second President in office exactly like Jimmy Carter. Consider, that we have socialist hippy who has never heard of the word budget before exactly like Jimmy Carter. Consider, that Obama's dictator- like policies are even worse than what Jimmy Carter could have ever imagined implementing himself, and many on the right (although I think its too early to judge) place Obama below Carter himself, as America's worst President!

I think Romney's plan is to lay low before the convention, he might say something about the new global gun control laws coming at the end of the month at say another NRA meeting. But I think that's all we're going to really hear from Romney before Tampa. He has some BIG plans in store, and if I recall correctly from history, people didn't really pay much attention to Mr. Reagan until HIS OWN convention, in 1980!

But, Obama's class warfare, is not giving him the political points that he needs. Obama needs to watch out, when Romney starts going full throttle! You're not convincing anybody Obama. Most of your base is going to vote for you anyways, but Romney has a clean slate. He needs to convince Independents and Conservative Republicans to vote for him. And if his business record is anything to boast about, he know how to "start a business!" That business being his election campaign, and spreading his message out to people and getting people to "buy his product"

the establishment doesn't care who wins because the same agenda will be pushed.

You say Romney is laying low... I say he just doesn't disagree with obama on much.

Please inform me how they have proven they are different.... this means facts.

Originally posted by Doalrite
the establishment doesn't care who wins because the same agenda will be pushed.

You say Romney is laying low... I say he just doesn't disagree with obama on much.

Please inform me how they have proven they are different.... this means facts.

This argument that they are both the same is starting to make me laugh every time I see it. That seems to be the Obama supporter answer to everything now.

They are different because they are backed by different parties and will be pushing more party line agenda while in office. How do people not know this? He isnt going to take office and start pushing Democrat agenda. We have two supreme court justices that will be replaced soon and he will put more conservative judges in there. He will or at least on paper should try to repeal obamacare errr.. Obamatax I mean. How do people not see this? Obama is not a business owner and never has been and Romney is part of corporate America. How are they even remotely the same? One is a Kenya born black man that smokes and plays basketball. The other is a white millionaire or billionaire or whatever. What exactly is the same about them?

reply to post by TheTardis


Hey,

Don't forget, Obama enthusiastically used cocain, smoked marijuana, drank heavily. You know, all of the important leadership qualities we should look for when voting for our President.

Originally posted by jjf3rd77

Consider that the issues are exactly THE same. “prices, interest rates, unemployment, taxes, or the fear for the future of their old age or the future of their children …” Consider that we have a World-First America second President in office exactly like Jimmy Carter. Consider, that we have socialist hippy who has never heard of the word budget before exactly like Jimmy Carter. Consider, that Obama's dictator- like policies are even worse than what Jimmy Carter could have ever imagined implementing himself, and many on the right (although I think its too early to judge) place Obama below Carter himself, as America's worst President!

people didn't really pay much attention to Mr. Reagan until HIS OWN convention, in 1980!


So what you are saying is that in over 20 years, no president has done anything to address the problems and we have the same issues we have had for generations.
And do you still think that any one of these people will?

edit on 10-7-2012 by eazyriderl_l because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by Pladuim
reply to post by TheTardis

 

Hey,

Don't forget, Obama enthusiastically used cocain, smoked marijuana, drank heaviy. You know, all of the important leadership qualities we should look for when voting for our President.

Ahh yes.. and he probably shares the same blood as Mitt so they will probably both test positive. Right?

Originally posted by TheTardis

Originally posted by Doalrite
the establishment doesn't care who wins because the same agenda will be pushed.

You say Romney is laying low... I say he just doesn't disagree with obama on much.

Please inform me how they have proven they are different.... this means facts.

This argument that they are both the same is starting to make me laugh every time I see it. That seems to be the Obama supporter answer to everything now.

They are different because they are backed by different parties and will be pushing more party line agenda while in office. How do people not know this? He isnt going to take office and start pushing Democrat agenda. We have two supreme court justices that will be replaced soon and he will put more conservative judges in there. He will or at least on paper should try to repeal obamacare errr.. Obamatax I mean. How do people not see this? Obama is not a business owner and never has been and Romney is part of corporate America. How are they even remotely the same? One is a Kenya born black man that smokes and plays basketball. The other is a white millionaire or billionaire or whatever. What exactly is the same about them?

I'm not an Obama supporter

I don't see a difference in the parties.. I hold both at fault and think that both point fingers and blame the other side. Wasn't it a Conservative Judge that vote Obamacare constitutional?

He has said he wants to repeal Obamacare and REPLACE IT.. keeping some things and getting rid of others. Can you show me where the Government has ever given up power?

I think you sayin one is a keyan black man and other is the white millionaire... those are really the only differences i see.

The only concrete things you can show differences politically are their voting records and those are the same.

So you can talk all you want about how different they are but if they vote the same as each other on every issue then the only difference I see is their color.

Mitt Romney is Obama's John Kerry.

Just like talk radio favors topics which have an even 50/50 split in opinion, political sway and manipulation thrives when the topic at hand even APPEARS 50/50.

This is exactly why the media is running with the Obamacare fallout and derision.

It's all very clear when you start to see behind the scenes.

reply to post by jjf3rd77


But Romney is WAAAY more vague than Obama, and both of them are vague compared to the other candidates. I don't support Obama, but at least he has a plan (or in case of the nutty Romney defense of keeping his plan a secret at least Obama has the balls to tell his plan) whether or not he goes through with it.

Romney's plan is so vague that no one knows what it is (including OP as demonstrated in all his other Romney fanboy threads and even Romney himself). So I think saying people are tired of Obama's "vagueness" is a ridiculous reason to support Romney as vague doesn't even come into play when you don't have a plan at all. Romney isn't vague he just doesn't know what he is going to do, no one does.

"If people knew what I was going to do when I become president than I wouldn't win" - Romney (paraphrased but the same jist, how do you trust that garbage??)

Anyone but Romney or Obama 2012!

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow


Please tell me what Obama's plan is. Because as far as I know, he hasn't even passed a budget!!!!!

Now, the shoe is on the other foot Gogo!

Originally posted by Doalrite

Originally posted by TheTardis

Originally posted by Doalrite
the establishment doesn't care who wins because the same agenda will be pushed.

You say Romney is laying low... I say he just doesn't disagree with obama on much.

Please inform me how they have proven they are different.... this means facts.

This argument that they are both the same is starting to make me laugh every time I see it. That seems to be the Obama supporter answer to everything now.

They are different because they are backed by different parties and will be pushing more party line agenda while in office. How do people not know this? He isnt going to take office and start pushing Democrat agenda. We have two supreme court justices that will be replaced soon and he will put more conservative judges in there. He will or at least on paper should try to repeal obamacare errr.. Obamatax I mean. How do people not see this? Obama is not a business owner and never has been and Romney is part of corporate America. How are they even remotely the same? One is a Kenya born black man that smokes and plays basketball. The other is a white millionaire or billionaire or whatever. What exactly is the same about them?

I'm not an Obama supporter

I don't see a difference in the parties.. I hold both at fault and think that both point fingers and blame the other side. Wasn't it a Conservative Judge that vote Obamacare constitutional?

He has said he wants to repeal Obamacare and REPLACE IT.. keeping some things and getting rid of others. Can you show me where the Government has ever given up power?

I think you sayin one is a keyan black man and other is the white millionaire... those are really the only differences i see.

The only concrete things you can show differences politically are their voting records and those are the same.

So you can talk all you want about how different they are but if they vote the same as each other on every issue then the only difference I see is their color.

Then you need to look harder and stop listening to people telling you that they are the same. They obviously hold completely different values. One is pushing major social programs while the other agrees that parts of the healthcare would work. But not as it is. I think that is the sentiment of a lot of people. So you think the guy trying to ram it down our throats is the same as the guy that is saying, lets take a look at it and see what parts we can use and what parts we can fix so it will work are the same?

And yes, a conservative judge did vote for it. But if you have read anything so far there is a pretty big theory floating around that this was done on purpose to make the bill easier to repeal later. Only time will tell. And I don't believe Mitt had anything to do with that. Obama threatening the supreme court may have. Not sure but do you see Mitt being the type to openly threaten the supreme court? There is a huge difference in these two guys. But yes if you listen to the propaganda they would love for you to believe they are both the same because that kind of thinking might just keep obama in office for four more years while we go down the tubes. Because right now the train is headed off a cliff and just because you cant see the exit from where you are sitting doesn't mean you shouldn't get up and look for it. Because that is kind of the jest of your previous post.

Originally posted by eazyriderl_l

So what you are saying is that in over 20 years, no president has done anything to address the problems and we have the same issues we have had for generations.
And do you still think that any one of these people will?

I'm not saying that, I'm saying that as a country we have moved backwards. Clinton moved us forward with the budget and working together with republicans in office. Bush spent like crazy and then Obama spent three times as much as he did!!!! That's just spending costs alone!!! At least Bush had some type of goal, Obama's is like the wild west of liberal ideology. Oh who are we going to attack/blame for this mess? Who are we going to hang out or not hang out with today? What big government program can I create or back today? What else can I do to screw the American people and then claim that its good for them!

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The question is how many of those people polled will actually bother going to the real polls in November? When the public is less than excited about their candidate, they tend to not show up at the polls. Nobody is thrilled with Romney, they just hate Obama, but will that be enough to get them to turn out in sufficient numbers and vote?

I don't think so, but we'll see. I predict a double-digit Obama win. Anyone wanna give me odds on that? We'll make it like a Football bet. I'll take Obama by 7!

Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by jjf3rd77

 

But Romney is WAAAY more vague than Obama, and both of them are vague compared to the other candidates. I don't support Obama, but at least he has a plan (or in case of the nutty Romney defense of keeping his plan a secret at least Obama has the balls to tell his plan) whether or not he goes through with it.

Romney's plan is so vague that no one knows what it is (including OP as demonstrated in all his other Romney fanboy threads and even Romney himself). So I think saying people are tired of Obama's "vagueness" is a ridiculous reason to support Romney as vague doesn't even come into play when you don't have a plan at all. Romney isn't vague he just doesn't know what he is going to do, no one does.

"If people knew what I was going to do when I become president than I wouldn't win" - Romney (paraphrased but the same jist, how do you trust that garbage??)

Anyone but Romney or Obama 2012!

If Obama's plan is so clear why dont you tell us about it? I have not heard this golden plan? If your talking about raising taxes that is every democrats plan. That is nothing new.

And if you are going to put something in Quotes, for god sake please make it an actual quote. Not "paraphrased". Romney never said that and you know it. Stop spreading lies. Either show us where he said that and I will believe it. I already addressed this in another post and you know it. The MSM fries any republican candidate on everything they say so why give them ammo. They are not his audience. The American public is and I guarantee when it is debate time you will hear all about his plans but why give them months to have their speech writers come up with answers? Obamas plan is to what? Run the economy even further down so we are all fully dependent on him and the government? Isnt this something Hitler would have done?

There is no plan.

The bankers and corporations will determine what comes next based on their own timeline.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by jjf3rd77

 

The question is how many of those people polled will actually bother going to the real polls in November? When the public is less than excited about their candidate, they tend to not show up at the polls. Nobody is thrilled with Romney, they just hate Obama, but will that be enough to get them to turn out in sufficient numbers and vote?

I don't think so, but we'll see. I predict a double-digit Obama win. Anyone wanna give me odds on that? We'll make it like a Football bet. I'll take Obama by 7!

See I think it will be the opposite. I think people are so disgusted with Obama and feel like they got duped they they are going to come out on groves to vote him out. People that dont normally participate in all these goofy polls they do before the real election. I think the general election is going to have very large numbers.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by jjf3rd77

 

Nobody is thrilled with Romney, they just hate Obama, but will that be enough to get them to turn out in sufficient numbers and vote?

Man, the Ron Paul supporters are showing their true colors today! But I think this is THE number ONE reason people will vote for Romney. You say, look at voting records, half of educated Americans, do not even know that Mitt Romney was a Governor, or that Obama was a Senator. They listen to the speeches and the debates. That doesn't mean they are uneducated, they just either don't care about politics, or don't have the time to research who they are voting for.

That's why Romney is practicing for the debates NOW, while Obama is out attacking him on the road, (in the middle of the summer when no one cares?) Good move Obama. Do you see how much limited press your campaign stops are making. Romney's NH vacation last week got more press than that!!! And some of it was actually non-bias!

Originally posted by TheTardis

Originally posted by Doalrite
the establishment doesn't care who wins because the same agenda will be pushed.

You say Romney is laying low... I say he just doesn't disagree with obama on much.

Please inform me how they have proven they are different.... this means facts.

This argument that they are both the same is starting to make me laugh every time I see it. That seems to be the Obama supporter answer to everything now.

They are different because they are backed by different parties and will be pushing more party line agenda while in office. How do people not know this? He isnt going to take office and start pushing Democrat agenda. We have two supreme court justices that will be replaced soon and he will put more conservative judges in there. He will or at least on paper should try to repeal obamacare errr.. Obamatax I mean. How do people not see this? Obama is not a business owner and never has been and Romney is part of corporate America. How are they even remotely the same? One is a Kenya born black man that smokes and plays basketball. The other is a white millionaire or billionaire or whatever. What exactly is the same about them?

It's that brand new signal system they are using.

""Wink twice with your left eye"" signal.

They can't seem to find anything at all positive with Obama's "policies" so they use the old "what difference does it make" routine.

While the President (any President) may in fact be catering to the highest worldwide powers, they can still and Should at least serve to protect the average American citizens.

That means keep the worldwide financial problems at a minimum impact to the "neighborhoods".

Keep the jobs plentiful and keep the poverty at a minimum with those jobs.

Obama isn't doing that.

Romney probably will.

As long as Obama seems to be imploding, why do anything at all. All he is doing right now is throwing things out there and hoping something will stick. No one cares about Romney's money or his bank accounts, they care about jobs, and getting rid of the Obama health tax (that's 670 dollars please for the first year, it goes up each year after that). They don't care about Bain capital, they care about our allies, and the soldiers dying in Afghanistan, and fast and furious secrets, and government waste.

But Obama is bent on class warfare, gender warfare, racial warfare, and that's why he's not doing that well this time around. The divide and conquer thing, but it's a failed plot at best. Black and Hispanic unemployment is a disgrace. He alienated the whites by refusing to protect the borders and fight black on white crimes. He alienated the blacks because now they have no jobs at all. He alienated the religious because he won't share in anything with Christians and Jews, and only has Islamic celebrations at the W-house. And he insulted the Catholics by forcing them to deny their faith and contribute to contraception practices.

I really think it's a real uphill battle for the boy wonder this time around. I really do.

gee, i just can't understand why a republican millionaire running for president, would want to cut taxes on millionaires...a president with secret tax-dodging offshore bank accounts seems honorable and a man of the people