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It does not matter if you included it in the thread or NOT. Its a valid chess piece, and is playing a crucial role in your brainwashed thinking. To take israel out of this conversation is like taking bread off of a sandwich.
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by michaelbrux
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by Tw0Sides
that's the story the Iranians are selling.
part of their success is making themselves appear to be the victim of a crime...while the whole time they are the ones that created the scenario. they've been doing this for thousands of years. even though they are occupying the united states and have been since 1979...they've have people believing they are peaceful people...its really annoying to see it.
the worse thing that can happen to Iran right now, Is no war. no war for Iran will be more powerful than an arsenal of nuclear weapons.
if Israel or America attacks them...that's like winning the lottery.
It takes a lot of ignorance to say a nation wants the U.S. to attack them, slaughter and displace tens of millions of people in their country, and have it occupied. Of course, you think the crimes against that nation by the U.S. and Israel is an illusion, since they must have wanted their government overthrown in 1953, and their citizens oppressed for over 20 years, and the U.S. supplying arms to Iraq for an eight year war against their country, and the marginalization of their economy due the western sanctions for thirty years... Horrible point of view you have, in my opinion.
have you ever fought a war? did you win it? what strategy did you employ?
yes, Iran will sacrifice the lives of their own people to 'fulfill their destiny' and make "Islam proud on the world stage."
the crimes against that nation were self inflicted...oh...but in your world people don't inflict pain upon themselves in order to achieve sympathy; and me saying that they do is just strange to you, i suppose.
but we can just sit here and watch events unfold so you can finally understand what kind of things people will do to conquer the whole world and exalt their name forever.
when all that people think or talk about is money and oil or land...they sometimes believe everyone else also thinks the same way...they do not.
Are you seriously trying to imply that I must fight a war to understand your horrible point of view that I quoted? I've read your comments before, but I haven't read your completely crazy ones until now. Iran doesn't invade countries, nor do they ask for the disgusting history the U.S. has been imposing upon them for 60 years. Iran is a sovereign nation that the U.S. has no right whatsoever to threaten in any manner. Nuclear nations like the U.S. and Israel, have no right to tell Iran they can't have nuclear reactors, or nuclear weapons. It's like Charles Manson telling people about morals. Israel is a religious government, and so is the U.S., and they, with Iran, are Abrahamic religions. so they're all crazy. To say this religion is worse than that relion is idiotic. So we can dispense with the religion of the matter, and focus on the true history of the U.S., Iran, and Israel. The conclusion is that out of those three nations, Iran is the only one which has demonstrated that it wishes NO war, while the other two have demonstrated slaughter, terror, destruction, and greed on a massive, unforgivable scale.
You’re naive to even think that a Muslim leader would use a nuke on another race, are your SERIOUS, ‘THEY ARE MUSLIMS NOT AMERICANS’, LOL.
I talk facts it’s never personnel.
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by michaelbrux
Originally posted by trysts
Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by Tw0Sides
that's the story the Iranians are selling.
part of their success is making themselves appear to be the victim of a crime...while the whole time they are the ones that created the scenario. they've been doing this for thousands of years. even though they are occupying the united states and have been since 1979...they've have people believing they are peaceful people...its really annoying to see it.
the worse thing that can happen to Iran right now, Is no war. no war for Iran will be more powerful than an arsenal of nuclear weapons.
if Israel or America attacks them...that's like winning the lottery.
It takes a lot of ignorance to say a nation wants the U.S. to attack them, slaughter and displace tens of millions of people in their country, and have it occupied. Of course, you think the crimes against that nation by the U.S. and Israel is an illusion, since they must have wanted their government overthrown in 1953, and their citizens oppressed for over 20 years, and the U.S. supplying arms to Iraq for an eight year war against their country, and the marginalization of their economy due the western sanctions for thirty years... Horrible point of view you have, in my opinion.
have you ever fought a war? did you win it? what strategy did you employ?
yes, Iran will sacrifice the lives of their own people to 'fulfill their destiny' and make "Islam proud on the world stage."
the crimes against that nation were self inflicted...oh...but in your world people don't inflict pain upon themselves in order to achieve sympathy; and me saying that they do is just strange to you, i suppose.
but we can just sit here and watch events unfold so you can finally understand what kind of things people will do to conquer the whole world and exalt their name forever.
when all that people think or talk about is money and oil or land...they sometimes believe everyone else also thinks the same way...they do not.
Are you seriously trying to imply that I must fight a war to understand your horrible point of view that I quoted? I've read your comments before, but I haven't read your completely crazy ones until now. Iran doesn't invade countries, nor do they ask for the disgusting history the U.S. has been imposing upon them for 60 years. Iran is a sovereign nation that the U.S. has no right whatsoever to threaten in any manner. Nuclear nations like the U.S. and Israel, have no right to tell Iran they can't have nuclear reactors, or nuclear weapons. It's like Charles Manson telling people about morals. Israel is a religious government, and so is the U.S., and they, with Iran, are Abrahamic religions. so they're all crazy. To say this religion is worse than that relion is idiotic. So we can dispense with the religion of the matter, and focus on the true history of the U.S., Iran, and Israel. The conclusion is that out of those three nations, Iran is the only one which has demonstrated that it wishes NO war, while the other two have demonstrated slaughter, terror, destruction, and greed on a massive, unforgivable scale.
Originally posted by seabag
So you feel safe with a lunatic religious zealot like Khamenei having a nuke?
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by LastProphet527
You’re naive to even think that a Muslim leader would use a nuke on another race, are your SERIOUS, ‘THEY ARE MUSLIMS NOT AMERICANS’, LOL.
So you feel safe with a lunatic religious zealot like Khamenei having a nuke?
He poses no threat to anybody in the world with his finger on the trigger? None of his rhetoric has meaning?
I talk facts it’s never personnel.
You’re still being naïve if you think the world is better off with a nuclear Iran…nothing personal.
edit on 9-7-2012 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Whatever it means, good thing he didn't mention Nukes which you can't prove they're developing in the first place.
Originally posted by seabag
What does it mean when Khamenei said “There will come a time when all the oppressive powers of the world will be destroyed”?
Sure, why not.
Originally posted by seabag
You do realize that they NEED WWIII to usher in the 12th Imam, right? That is the only way!
You're right, I am assuming you think attacking Iran is a good idea based on nothing you've said in this thread.
Originally posted by seabag
You’re making assumptions that contradict what I’ve SAID in this thread (ie making stuff up).
I have to say Seabag that I respect your views and your ability to stick with your word. I have been reading your comments for a long time now and the Iran situation I am kind of torn on.
I have three parts of this that I consider,
A part of me thinks that if we have a nuclear device then why shouldn't anyone else? I am kind of tired of being the worlds police.
A part of me thinks that our foreign affairs are making these people angry at us and we need to try a different approach to the situations in the M.E.
The other part of me thinks that these people, like some(alot) of people here want to keep the religous wars going on for eternity. Because of this I do think that they will try to use a nuclear weapon to try to usher in an era free of the "infidels".
Because of the whole infidels situation of the hardline muslim extremists, I do not think that they need a nuclear weapon. I feel that hardcore Islamic beliefs can and possibly will bring an end to "our way of life". Which is trying to be a peaceful peole free to make choices that we want to make and not the choices one tells us to make.
The more I think about it, I think that if they should close the straight, then swift action needs to be taken to neutralize the situation, whatever that may be.
One thing for sure is that power corrupts and an extremely religous power is dangerous.
Star and flag from liejunkie01.
Oh really? So why haven't they fired off any of their missiles yet? Surely they are weapons of mass destruction. That's a blast from the past, WMD...
Originally posted by seabag
I’m positive, given the opportunity, Iran will use WMD; they’ve said as much.
Oh really? So why haven't they fired off any of their missiles yet? Surely they are weapons of mass destruction.
That's a blast from the past, WMD...
In the 2008 GOP Nomination Runoff, 4 of the 6 Candidates said GOD PERSONALLY told them to RUN.
Now , you want to talk about Religious Zealots with Fingers on NUKES.
Originally posted by michaelbrux
I'm am implying that you must fight a war to understand. why should anyone take your word for something you've never done.
Iran does invade countries and occupy them. they sow distrust and spread lies and rumors.
Their leader believes that in a few days, minutes or hours that all that I know will cease to exist and I will have to submit or die to his supremacy. apparently you agree with this belief.
America has never made anything close to a threat like that; i've heard people talk about blowing up some buildings. by comparison, America's threat against Iran, and Israel for that matter, pale in comparison to being threatened with non-existence by a religious fanatic.
the Iranian leaders words, or words attributed directly to him for the first time ever, are veiled threats to the 6 Billion non-Muslims that live in this world. and that's is what you call peace.
edit on 9-7-2012 by michaelbrux because: (no reason given)
FYI claiming i need therapy makes you look like a bigger brainwashed idiot than you already are.
Oh and trying to put others down because their point is more valid than yours, makes you look like a complete imbecile.
Its people like you that run this country into the ground. You seriously need to stop using propaganda as factual evidence. Its not good for your credibility. Oh and Iran didn't start the Iran-Iraq conflict, Iraq did.
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به گزارش سرویس سیاسی خبرگزاری فارس دفتر حفظ و نشر آثار حضرت آیت الله العظمی خامنه ای به مناسبت فرارسیدن نیمه شعبان و سالروز ولادت حضرت ولیعصر (عج) گلچینی از بیانات آیتالله خامنهای را در مورد حضرت ولیعصر ارواحنا لهالفداء منتشر کرده است: