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Originally posted by fourthmeal
Awesome post. I was thinking of this in a similar way that the solar system spirals around in the galaxy, something Nassim Haramein talks about this a lot
And it pretty much is a holographic representation of time itself, in my view.
I believe the spiral is the 3D, and torus is the 4D representation. In a torus, the inside becomes the outside becomes the inside endlessly, and a spiral is the nature of it but curved upon itself. I think this is the secret.
edit: I mean the double torus.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
I was thinking about today,,,, how light allows us to see the external world,,, and how strange it is the properties of light to soak up all the information of the external world and enter it into our eye,,, it is a projection into our minds,,, and from our minds we project it outwards to see everything thats around us,,,,, pretty crazy,.,.
Originally posted by TheJourney
Great thread! Explains and connects various concepts and ideas about the time period we are entering very well. And for those who may be confused, if any, and assuming I am not misunderstanding, the basic idea in terms of the dimension is that a dimensional representation is like a shadow of a higher dimension. So the two-dimensional shadow of the three-dimensional object only can partially represent it, and is very incomplete. The three-dimensional spiral has much more to it than can be modeled in 2-D. This would be the case with every dimensional jump, though. So 3-D experiences in reality are just like that, shadow-models of a 4th-dimensional 'object' or reality. This time period, then, represents the point where the representation of the higher-dimension comes to essentially a standstill, and is really nothing unless seen from the higher vantage point of the 4th-dimension, and this is the singularity.
Originally posted by DiDiCootiepie
bounce like a head? or like a ball?
Originally posted by fourthmeal
He's saying we're going through a "curve", as perceived in 2D against the 3D spiral. But in reality it is nothing more than an illusion of a curve.
Originally posted by matthewgraybeal
Time is a River, and you are a Bridge, from which to observe it. Sometimes, you can dip your hand in the river, but rarely can you redirect more than your hand can displace.
Originally posted by craybiez
reply to post by fourthmeal
surely you would feel the force of a spiral as you travel in 3d whilst your shadow would seem like your bouncing. what's the fourth dimension contain is it the awareness of time I like the idea that all dimensions exist relative to the observer and are one and all anyway and time is movement in space measured.
Originally posted by Khurzon
Very good observations here... Trust your intuitive meta insights, especially when your mind is in hot pursuit of core truths...
And how can we understand these fourth dimensional things?
How can we break our eyes away from the shadows?
I think the key is an intuitive and questioning mind that can perceive "new" or "other" concepts such as described in the cave...
Originally posted by Hope4peace
Wow! Great post...it really helped open my mind even more and you explain your ideas very well.
Thanks for sharing
Originally posted by LoveisanArt
*round of applause*
OP! If you came up with this anology yourself.. wow Truely an amazing metaphor or expression of how average human minds perceive this realm of existence. This way of forcing the blunt human mind to think and perceive is very thought-provoking and mind opening.
Great post and anology once again, Star and Flag for you my friend
Originally posted by matthewgraybeal
and keep this bumped, your insight is quantum, and I follow your line of reasoning naturally, excellent description for all to follow.
Not for your armchair philosopher however. *Star & Flag On it's way.*
Originally posted by bottleslingguy
the people who tricked those guys in the cave are total a-holes.
are you implying there are people manipulating our reality or are you saying that's just how reality is?
Originally posted by tluna1
this seems the place to ask this as the people that are posting seem knowledgabe in time/space theorys.
3 cars a minute apart. I am in the middle car. there is a tree 2 minuets down the road. the first car passes the tree. he is now in my furture, i am in his past and the person behind me is in my past but thier future. When i get to the tree the first car is 1 minute in the future i'm in my present and the car behind me is in my past. Does time work this way? I know time is relative and all but if the first car reached the tree, then a minute later i reach the tree am i not in his past since he already passed the tree? and i'm in the person behind me's future because they have not reached the tree? sorry if this is confusing i am not sure how to explain it.
Originally posted by Firethefed
I had just been thinking lately how.... we all are spiraling and don't realize it...
our solar system is spinning threw the galaxy...
our planet is spinning around the sun... our planet is spinning itself...thats 3 spirals ... you can make it 4 if you spinn in place... Thoughts? 3 spirals... and we are in the 3rd dimention...
Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
So we are in 2D ?
And what we really are is in 3D ?
13.22 Questioner: What is the density level of our planet Earth at this time?
Ra: I am Ra. The sphere upon which you dwell is third density in its beingness of mind/body/spirit complexes. It is now in a space/time continuum, fourth density. This is causing a somewhat difficult harvest.
13.23 Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.
The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.
Thus, the entry into the vibration of love, sometimes called by your people the vibration of understanding, is not effective with the present societal complex. Thus, the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest.
40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth-density?
Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.
63.20 Questioner: Now as this transition continues into fourth-density activation, in order to inhabit this fourth-density sphere it will be necessary for all third-density physical bodies to go through the process which we refer to as death. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.