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Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
And yet all relgion is based upon divine wisdom being imparted to people. Alot of it is absolutley idiotic. Strange how the bible says to murder people but yet so many people hold those diabolical ear whispers as undisputed fact.edit on 10-7-2012 by Wertdagf because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
sigh.. its the newest incarnation of religious goalpost moving. What your saying doesnt actually mean anything.. its the same newage foo foo that those transendantalists spew.
A way to keep the nightlight. They get to keep their imaginary best friend and hes immune to any attack because hes based on nothing more than personal experiances they refuse to share, because at best its based on ignorance.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by adjensen
Selective reproduction is a better approach in eugenics... and it always has been. ALthough technology is moving well beyond what the orginal precepts of eugenics could invision.
Weve come a long way in sequencing the human genome and recognizing specific genes that cause disease. To alter the genetics of an embyro is not murder and accomplishes the same goal.
Dude, are you insane? Do you not comprehend what you're saying?
Wow. Just wow. That's where the worship of science has brought us to.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by adjensen
Selective reproduction is a better approach in eugenics... and it always has been. ALthough technology is moving well beyond what the orginal precepts of eugenics could invision.
Weve come a long way in sequencing the human genome and recognizing specific genes that cause disease. To alter the genetics of an embyro is not murder and accomplishes the same goal.
Dude, are you insane? Do you not comprehend what you're saying?
Wow. Just wow. That's where the worship of science has brought us to.
See what happens when the local library has Mein Kampf on the shelves?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
sigh.. its the newest incarnation of religious goalpost moving. What your saying doesnt actually mean anything.. its the same newage foo foo that those transendantalists spew.
You are not differentiating between "Religion" as a business (as is seen in all JudeoChristian beliefs) and religion as part of the actual human experience. As part of our collective history. As part of the unknown, and the search for it.
Religion, as is practiced by JudeoChristian beliefs, is a rigid system of "We already got it figure out, dammit". That is an institution, that is not God.
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by adjensen
Selective reproduction is a better approach in eugenics... and it always has been. ALthough technology is moving well beyond what the orginal precepts of eugenics could invision.
Weve come a long way in sequencing the human genome and recognizing specific genes that cause disease. To alter the genetics of an embyro is not murder and accomplishes the same goal.
Dude, are you insane? Do you not comprehend what you're saying?
Wow. Just wow. That's where the worship of science has brought us to.
See what happens when the local library has Mein Kampf on the shelves?
I'm seein' it, I'm just having a hard time believin' it. Some of these people have really gone round the bend and don't seem to have any grasp on how messed up their ideology has become.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by adjensen
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by adjensen
Selective reproduction is a better approach in eugenics... and it always has been. ALthough technology is moving well beyond what the orginal precepts of eugenics could invision.
Weve come a long way in sequencing the human genome and recognizing specific genes that cause disease. To alter the genetics of an embyro is not murder and accomplishes the same goal.
Dude, are you insane? Do you not comprehend what you're saying?
Wow. Just wow. That's where the worship of science has brought us to.
See what happens when the local library has Mein Kampf on the shelves?
"Today they say that Christianity is in danger, that the Catholic faith is threatened. My reply to them is: for the time being, Christians and not international atheists are now standing at Germany’s fore. I am not merely talking about Christianity; I confess that I will never ally myself with the parties which aim to destroy Christianity. Fourteen years they have gone arm in arm with atheism. At no time was greater damage ever done to Christianity than in those years when the Christian parties ruled side by side with those who denied the very existence of God. Germany's entire cultural life was shattered and contaminated in this period. It shall be our task to burn out these manifestations of degeneracy in literature, theater, schools, and the press—that is, in our entire culture—and to eliminate the poison which has been permeating every facet of our lives for these past fourteen years."
"There may have been a time when even parties founded on the ecclesiastical basis were a necessity. At that time Liberalism was opposed to the Church, while Marxism was anti-religious. But that time is past. National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary, it stands on the ground of a real Christianity. The Church's interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of today, in our fight against the Bolshevist culture, against an atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for the consciousness of a community in our national life, for the conquest of hatred and disunion between the classes, for the conquest of civil war and unrest, of strife and discord. These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles."
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by TheSubversiveOne
Sure he was,.. now what was Hitler's "god"?
F.Y.I..
So are you defending Hitler, Mein Kampf, or human eugenics? You know, just to get an idea what dog you have in this fight and all.
Have any pro-Christian quotes from Hitler after he decided to jump on satan's lap and practice full-blown occultism? (Post-1940)
edit on 11-7-2012 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)
Is it better to murder people because science tells you to?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan
sigh.. its the newest incarnation of religious goalpost moving. What your saying doesnt actually mean anything.. its the same newage foo foo that those transendantalists spew.
You are not differentiating between "Religion" as a business (as is seen in all JudeoChristian beliefs) and religion as part of the actual human experience. As part of our collective history. As part of the unknown, and the search for it.
Religion, as is practiced by JudeoChristian beliefs, is a rigid system of "We already got it figure out, dammit". That is an institution, that is not God.
*Screeeeeech*
Stop the bus right here. Forgive my next statement, no offense intended. You must have had a very legalistic religious upbringing or experience. Christ was probably the most anti-religious man to walk the face of the Earth. He mocked the religious folks of His day severely. There is a light-year difference between "religion" and "redemption".
Christianity is NOT about what you do or don't do, it's all about what Jesus has done. the Christian version of religion is the most putrid of them all in fact. But don't for a second confuse legalistic religion with redemption through the Son of God. A great number of Christians ha e absolutely nothing to do with religion. I've enjoyed and greatly respected you for your statements thus far, but redemption is NOT religion, no matter how much the wolves try and make it be.
Originally posted by eight bits
Science doesn't judge values.
(Jurassic Park, 1993)
John Hammond: I don't think you're giving us our due credit. Our scientists have done things which nobody's ever done before...
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by TheSubversiveOne
It was the first one on a google search. Took about .26 seconds on my 4G. One thing you need to know about Hitler. He would say pro-Christian things pre-1940 when speaking in public yet post-1940 would say completely different things in private conversations to close friends. Hitler also said that propaganda must always be directed to the masses, which in the case of 1930's Germany was 80% Christian.
Originally posted by TheSubversiveOne
reply to post by adjensen
It's obvious that the problem here then is not science, but faith. Because we know it is possible for science and religion to be used for good. It is the faith and probably ignorance that drives men to do such horrific things. Would you agree?