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Hill Poll: Majority believe Obama has changed country for worse

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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 10:25 AM
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from The Hill
By Sheldon Alberts - 07/09/12

Hill Poll: Majority believe Obama has changed country for worse
 

This poll by The Hill is indicating Obama's "fundamental changing of America" is not quite the "Change" people were expecting !!

Likely Voters:

56% say the "change" is in the wrong direction !!

35% say the change is OK with them.

and this shocker -- 68% say Obama has in fact substantially transformed the country




Two-thirds of likely voters say President Obama has kept his 2008 campaign promise to change America — but it’s changed for the worse, according to a sizable majority.

A new poll for The Hill found 56 percent of likely voters believe Obama’s first term has transformed the nation in a negative way, compared to 35 percent who believe the country has changed for the better under his leadership.

The results signal broad voter unease with the direction the nation has taken under Obama’s leadership and present a major challenge for the incumbent Democrat as he seeks reelection this fall. .....(continue from the story)



I think many "likely voters" believe we got Short Changed

More so the people that had pretty good jobs a few years ago.



Follow the simple instructions

 


YouTube Caption:

On October 30, 2008 then presidential candidate Barack Obama promised a crowd of 35,000-40,000 at Missouri University, "We are five days from fundamentally transforming the United States of America."

In mid-March 2010 we are perhaps just days away from a major fulfillment of that promise as the House prepares to vote on the Senate-passed version of Obama's health care reform bill.

Final congressional passage of any one of the various versions of Obama's health care reform plan would constitute a government takeover of 1/6 of the U.S. economy -- a fundamental transformation of the U.S.A. and a severe blow to our system of limited government under the Constitution.
 


another YouTube -- Obama in 2008 (before the election !!!)

On July 3, 2008 -- the day before Independence Day -- Barack Obama said that adding $4 trillion in debt was irresponsible and "unpatriotic".

Obama: The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents - #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back -- $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That's irresponsible. It's unpatriotic.



"BIG Change" is an understatement




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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Dang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And Obama is still leading in the polls.

Romney should be winning hands down.




Gotta say, I do enjoy your threads. And that is being sincere.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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Hill Poll: Many believe the president is only man with any impact on country.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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People should have taken a minute to ask what kind of change he was selling before they bought it lock, stock, and barrel. He didn't lie. He did bring about change...
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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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I wonder what the bloody idiots think about little bush...or Clinton...or old man Boosh. Stupid people will never figure out that presidents do not matter. Presidents and parties are not what is running Amerika...into the ground.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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Hill Poll: Majority believe Obama has changed country for worse


HILL POLL???? Shall I respond with a Huffpost Poll? Maybe then you can respond with a Briebart Poll?

Let's take a look at the Demographics obn this Poll...

HILL
White 77%
Black 10%

USA
White 70%
Black 12%

HILL
Republican 35%
Democrat 34%
Other 31%

USA
Republican 25%
Democrats 40%
Other 35%
www.people-press.org...

HILL
Income
By their charts per Question...100k+

USA Median Income 47k

So they surveyed an unusual amount of Republicans who are white and rich.....

Honestly...look at the demographics breakdown at the end of this poll....this poll is skewed political trash.
thehill.com...



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Pulse Opinion research...

What Do Rasmussen And Pulse Opinion Research Have In Common?




The answer (as reported earlier today by Political Wire) is that Pulse is a "field service" spun off of of Rasmussen Reports that conducts their well known automated, recorded-voice surveys. It also conducts polls for other clients including, as of today, Fox News. While the questions asked on specific surveys may differ, the underlying methodology used by Fox/Pulse and Rasmussen are essentially identical.

Earlier this year, Rasmussen launched a new website for Pulse that, as he explained to Tim Mak of the Frum Forum, allows anyone to "go to the [Pulse] website, type in their credit card number, and run any poll that they wanted, with any language that they want... In effect, you will be able to do your own poll, and Rasmussen will provide the platform to ensure that the polling includes a representative national sample." According to the Pulse web site, basic election surveys start at $1,500 for a sample of 500 state or local respondents.




About Those Fox News Polls
The new set of Fox News surveys that we highlighted earlier were actually conducted by Pulse Opinion Research, which is a new venture from pollster Scott Rasmussen which "will allow anyone willing to pay $600 to go to the website, type in their credit card number, and run any poll that they wanted, with any language that they want..."

politicalwire.com...



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 11:16 AM
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I do not believe any President has the ability to single handedly change the economy or the course of world events... be it Obama, Reagan, Truman, Washington, etc.

However, I do believe a leader can set the tone and guidlines for where the country is headed. In corporate terms... the president can "create the culture" to which the country conforms to.

Reagan said that he was not smart enough to do everything, but he was smart enough to surround himself with smart people that could.

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, and has webbed feet like a duck, but calls itself a chicken... folkks will still see a duck.

Obama allowed the TSA to push the bar of civility at airports across the country. Do we need the TSA... I say yes. Do we need them pulling out handicapped people and strip searching them or feeling up little 7 yr old kids...No. And Obama ignored this situation. Had he spoken out on it and demanded some common sense guidlines...it would have been better.

Obama has how many "czars" running things? Bad name... just underscores peoples fears he is "socialist/communist."

"Shovel ready jobs" and stimulus fiasco... He again set the tone, set an agenda and then walked away from it and let it tailspin into a giant pork barrel of funding... How about dredging out the intercoastal waterway and actually appear to manage that... putting local people to work...He could have said that in the bill... hire only local citizens. Instead, we get road crews with labor from Mexico...not a generalization...a fact...at least on the road I traveled.

Calls himself a Christian, covers up Jesus at the Notre Dame Cathederal....bends over backwards to snuggle up to Muslim Brotherhood, praises the Arab Spring... and then wonders why most Americans don't realize he is Christian.

Spends money like a drunken sailor... pushing all kinds of legislation on the enviroment, trade, taxes, and then wonders why businesses are afriad to hire...business likes consistancy and certainty. Are you gonna double plant size or buy 3 new trucks and hire crews only to realize you will be penalized for having done so?...NO

Uses the EPA, IRS, FDA, TSA as a bunch of thugs in a bad mobster movie. Are we really considering dust from harvesting crops an enviromental hazard? How about dust from hay? Kids can't help their parents on the farm anymore? Really? Here in NC... it was a rite of passage that 12yr old kids got to drive the farmall up and down the rows... that's where they learned how to work...we got bigger problems in the world than a kid wanting to help daddy drive the tractor.

No...Mr Obama may not be responsible for what is wrong with the country, but he sure hasn't done anything to help it either... no grand vision about the future greatness of America... no vision of America on the cutting edge and self sufficiency and self reliance.... Nope... our country and our citizens have been down graded to victims always needing a hand out.

That is where Mr Obama has stood back and allowed us to go.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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Why is Rasmussen and it's spin-off "Pulse Opinion Daily" always the outlier? And leaning toward Romney/GOP?



The issue with Rasmussen is that they not only weight their polls by party affiliations, but their weighting is way the hell off of what damned near every other pollster in the world is seeing:

Among other targets, Rasmussen Reports weights data by political party affiliation using a dynamic weighting process. While partisan affiliation is generally quite stable over time, there are a fair number of people who waver between allegiance to a particular party or independent status. Our baseline targets are established based upon separate survey interviews with a sample of adults nationwide completed during the preceding three months (a total of 45,000 interviews) and targets are updated monthly.

Currently, the baseline targets for the adult population are 35.7% Republicans, 33.4% Democrats, and 30.8% unaffiliated. Likely voter samples typically show a slightly larger advantage for the Republicans.

Even having a likely voter sample that is R+3 is a stretch, given that there has not been a presidential election in the last two decades where the electorate (as measured by the exit poll data) has skewed three points in favor of the GOP. Indeed, over the last three cycles, the average has been roughly D+4.

www.dailykos.com...

NOW...I understand most idealogues don't care about accuracey...so carry on. I just feel better inserting some actual facts into a discussion, but understand folks would rather not think in factual terms.

Pulse Opinion Research is a less regimented/accurate spin off of Rasmussen and Rasmussen already persistantly fudges/weights thier numbers.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 06:47 PM
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So 91% of Republicans dislike what he tries to do, and 71 % of Democrats support what he tries to do.

This is political madness?
Seems like political normalcy to me.





and this shocker -- 68% say Obama has in fact substantially transformed the country


You for got to add in this.

It found 68 percent of likely voters — regardless of whether they approve or disapprove of Obama — believe the president has substantially transformed the country since his 2009 inauguration.


Approve or disprove. This doesn't mean that 69% of voters believe he is ruining the country. Even you would have to admit, the country was and is in need of transformation. Unless you desire unemployment and corporate personhood.
Geez you really have your spin goggles and Goebells gear on high today.
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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:23 PM
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Honestly...look at the demographics breakdown at the end of this poll....this poll is skewed political trash.


Fine if that is the way people want to have it then look at the demographics which say "obama is leading Romney".

But I just can't get over this comment:




So they surveyed an unusual amount of Republicans who are white and rich.....


Really?

Since some want to make polls about race hell lets really break it down:

www.newsmax.com...

Report: Record Number of Women Dropping Out of Work Force

For Black Americans, A Longer Time Without Work

www.npr.org...

Wonder what their opinions are on that poll, but for some on here to make everything about race is ridiculous.

This nation has been on the wrong track for near 4 years and has gotten worse.


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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:31 PM
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I agree with the majority, but I wonder what people would expect from McCain or Romney?

So, Obama has changed country for the worse, but it might have been even MORE to the worse if we had McCain in there. We'd likely have already attacked Iraq, and we would likely be in an even deeper depression (although I think that would have been the prudent thing to do, lets get the depression over with now instead of later).

So, just because the majority believes this, doesn't mean the majority will vote for Romney. I expect Romney would make it even worse.

Unless of course a miracle happens and we actually get a chance to vote for Ron Paul!



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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" 35% say the change is OK with them."

Useless Eaters the Lot of them I Bet too !

How Many Times will these Fools Fall for the Finger On the Chest , and the Bee Otch Slap to the Chin ? .....Geez......



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:39 PM
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Despite all the crap that Obama has going against him, people still prefer the incumbent over a stranger, regardless of part affiliation.

I'm incredibly frustrated with this stupid left/right paradigm.

I'm tired of the vote never meaning anything and I'm tired of the country being not for and by the people anymore.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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I live in a predominantly black and white area. The attitude seems to be the same. The older folks think that it is just plain ol racism that is leading to the opposition against obama. The educated younger blacks think the guy is just a liar like the rest of the gov. the rest seem to have no clue what is going on at all. They are just watching the news and thinking that good ol Obama is being stymied by stodgy old republicans and that it is just the political system in general resisting "change". God bless those who are ignorant, they seem to worry the least. But then there are those who are angry, they feel sold out and have no clue why their fellow black man is falling for the classic divide and conquer rhetoric from all sides.


Many of us are starting to unite. Black, white, democrat, republican and libertarian. We have blacks and jews and other demographics Advocating Ron Paul and other Third party or "rouge" political candidates. Despite their best efforts we are seeing past their lies and realizing that underneath our political logos and melanin tinted flesh we are all red-blooded americans who value Freedom. It's only a matter of time now.

Our roots* are healthy, but the branches** are twisted and rancid***.


* when i say roots i mean the people and the original constitution and please don't get started on how the original constitution didn't guarantee rights for blacks. ALL men are created equal,If we are truly advanced we shouldn't need to make the distinction between skin colors. We all bleed red ( except for our reptilian overlords, HAIL XENU)
**the branches refer to the three branches of government)
*** Rancid rocked, so did op ivy.
edit on 9-7-2012 by DeathShield because: Forgot to make a distinction in one sentence.



[EDIT, GetReadyAlready pointed out an error in my description of the place i live in . I should have mentioned that the two largest racial demographics are Black and White people, with Phillipinos/Asians coming in at third. i left the error in so i may be ridiculed for my silly statements.]

edit on 9-7-2012 by DeathShield because: GetReadyAlready pointed out something and i couldn't help but agree and realize my folly.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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I live in a predominantly black and white area.




Which is it?



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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The ironic thing here is that Republicans think he has changed it for the worse because he is too socialist or too communistic and Dems think he has changed it for the worse because he is Bush lite and has continued or tightened some of his most contentious policies.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Purple...Seriously though i see why you are confused. I should have mentioned that the two largest racial demographics are Black and White people, with Phillipinos/Asians coming in at third.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 09:15 PM
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When the largest healthcare provider is the US government which has seen one hell of an increase in the last 3 and half years that use to account for over 110 million Ameircans receiving their healthcare funded by the taxpayer.

Then add 30 million new people to be covered when the people before couldn't pay for those already on it.

That is communistic,socialistic.

Then when you have 70 million Americans on that great retirement program called social security which pays for that medicare, and then the average joe pays the rest.

Then there have been 10+ million additional people who were put on welfare. and then we have the government take over of student loans.

Social Security.Medicare.Medicaid.Welfare,Student loans.Fanney and Freddy combined have made this country worse.

The trend of the current government has been on the wrong path,and has made this country worse off people say there is no difference between the left and right but i say:

There was over 120 million who would perish without government assistance just added 30 million more. and then the current guy says let's tax people who make over 250k a year they are rich to pay for those programs.

www.usdebtclock.org...

I really do not think the magnitude of the how much government has grown.

welfare+medicaid+social security+medicare and for some student loans it is not just 1 person "getting one form of help"

How can people not see the direction of this country that peoples wants the rest can't cash.?
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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by Kangaruex4Ewe
People should have taken a minute to ask what kind of change he was selling before they bought it lock, stock, and barrel. He didn't lie. He did bring about change...
edit on 7/9/2012 by Kangaruex4Ewe because: (no reason given)



Yeah, 'hopeless' change!



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