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Obama’s Outsourcing Far Worse Than Romney’s ?

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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by spinalremain
Is this serious?

My goodness! This is like eating a piece of bologna off the floor and telling everyone you had beef Wellington for dinner.

Goebells applauds you again, Xuenchen.


 
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Well, have Goebells congratulate the article author, I didn't write it !!

And how about all the average voters who will see the stories like this one in a very negative way ?

The Obama Team needs to look at That.

They seem to be taking their "decisions" for granted.

IMO, this is VERY serious for the Obama Campaign.




posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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I've been on ATS for quite some time, and I understand you didn't write the piece, Xuenchen.
-However, it is in fact a propaganda piece, directly implicating Obama for outcourcing jobs overseas. You posted the article and it's headline for the purpose of furthering it's agenda.
One does not need to create the disease in order to spread it and create a pandemic.


 
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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by buster2010


Yes there is a difference. Obama is not personally responsible for the outsourcing Romney did get personally involved with the outsourcing. How can you say there is no difference?


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Does Solyndra count ?

I wonder if those hired by that company, are still counted on Obama's unemployment counter ?

Wonder when hes going to tout those numbers.......

Obama shouldn't get 4 more years, or 4 more days......


You must have the same problem he does. Obama runs no companies he is not sending jobs overseas the guy who is doing the fundraising is. What country was solyndra in? America not some foreign country. Feels like I'm trying to explain this on 4chan.


Look, the REAL problems are this. Obama has done NOTHING , under his administration, to create jobs, to get small business or big business to hire,and failed at his shovel ready jobs project. Unemployment under Obama, is his biggest accomplishment ! Is that too hard to understand, or maybe 4chan is to your liking............


Obama did put on a few - small business Dog & Pony shows - but those don't count.

Truth be told: Obama hates the private sector.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Obama's Ad started running on a channel I watch just a couple of days ago. I immediately started fact checking and it only took a moment to find the Ad about Romney outsourcing was not truthful. In fact it got four Pinocchio's from the same media that spawned it (Washington Post), four Pinocchio's meaning it's a bald faced lie.

I suppose the same old tactics of divide and repeat the same lies over and over again are the Progressives only tool this time.

Interesting how the Partisans from the Left will knowingly argue a lie to be true and expect to be viewed as honest.

I imagine that Ad is telling us that Obama has decided to base his campaign on the illiterate using false soundbites over and over again. I expect it will get very nasty if Obama is already endorsing Ads without any basis in fact this early.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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It is irrelevant who of these 2 clowns outsources more. You can`t polish a turd even if you wrap it in a 20K Armani suit. And it should be prohibited by law to vote for people who don`t put their words where their mouths are. Notice , how exclusively all precision manufacturing has gone south with a few morsels left proliferating in Asia. No skilled workforce, no salaries. Catch 22 hitting Us groin even harder.Tell me more about the illussion that a country can live rich without REAL jobs.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by xuenchen
 


Obama's Ad started running on a channel I watch just a couple of days ago. I immediately started fact checking and it only took a moment to find the Ad about Romney outsourcing was not truthful. In fact it got four Pinocchio's from the same media that spawned it (Washington Post), four Pinocchio's meaning it's a bald faced lie.

I suppose the same old tactics of divide and repeat the same lies over and over again are the Progressives only tool this time.

Interesting how the Partisans from the Left will knowingly argue a lie to be true and expect to be viewed as honest.

I imagine that Ad is telling us that Obama has decided to base his campaign on the illiterate using false soundbites over and over again. I expect it will get very nasty if Obama is already endorsing Ads without any basis in fact this early.


Obama is desperate to change the subject away from the terrible jobs report of only

80,000 jobs. Throw anything out there. The more outrageous the better.


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When the next Jobs Growth Report comes out the first week of August i predict

it will be around 50,000. - Doomsday for Obama -

The DNC convention is in September. Just forget it.


Call Hillary. Call someone.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

story from Breitbart -- by William Bigelow - 8 Jul 2012

Who’s the worst outsourcer in today’s presidential race? It isn’t Mitt Romney – it’s Barack Obama.

Obama’s second largest fundraiser is John Rogers, the CEO of investment giant Ariel Capital Management.



Wait a second....a Fundraiser??? I thought you said Obama???

Romney himself actually outsourced jobs...he made millions doing it

But OK...Can we now look at Romney's fundraisers and assign thier actions to Romney???...cuz those are some brutal MFers...from a long list of Hedgefund Billionaires that collapsed the economy, to the Koch Brothers to Vegas Psuedo-Crimnals
edit on 9-7-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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That's why the "?" is in the title.

Just in case.



It's all about voter perception, not necessarily the "interpreted" "facts".

Is is Ironic to say the least


The big question is: Why would Obama let this slip by ?

Get ready for that "big announcement" any time now.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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Because he couldnt get on the Druge Report site that day.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

It's all about voter perception, not necessarily the "interpreted" "facts".

Is is Ironic to say the least





Oh Xue....despite your relentless list of crazy right wing propaganda posts...I smell honesty and honor in you

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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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This is just more evidence that system is beyond broken and no longer works. The president (no matter which party) answers NOT to the people but to whom ever gives the biggest amount of money.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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I like watching the lefties and righties argue about who is less slimy.

Both are scumbags and people shouldn't vote for a lesser of two evils. Just stop participating in the corruption.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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So Xue...given your prolific amount of posting of spurious political propaganda, I googled you up. "Xuenchen"...

You are on Godlike Productions, Newsvine, Protomastictraveler.net, AmeriKan Conspiracy.net, WesternJournalism.com, Floydreports and others...

Same talking points...Obama - Evil...GOP Good...

Where do you find the time?...I used to think paid posting was but a myth.

You have over 800 Threads for 2012 alone?

28 OPs in July and it's only the 9th!!!



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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Oh Obama....



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by xuenchen
 


So Xue...given your prolific amount of posting of spurious political propaganda, I googled you up. "Xuenchen"...

You are on Godlike Productions, Newsvine, Protomastictraveler.net, AmeriKan Conspiracy.net, WesternJournalism.com, Floydreports and others...

Same talking points...Obama - Evil...GOP Good...

Where do you find the time?...I used to think paid posting was but a myth.

You have over 800 Threads for 2012 alone?

28 OPs in July and it's only the 9th!!!


That's strange.

I am only "signed up" at one of the above places !!

I have seen "my name" come in other places as well.

A lot of people are nervous.

Can you link some specific site comments ?

I would like to track them down.

It looks like I have a "shadow" ....

Hmmm.
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posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by Indigo5
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So Xue...given your prolific amount of posting of spurious political propaganda, I googled you up. "Xuenchen"...

You are on Godlike Productions, Newsvine, Protomastictraveler.net, AmeriKan Conspiracy.net, WesternJournalism.com, Floydreports and others...

Same talking points...Obama - Evil...GOP Good...

Where do you find the time?...I used to think paid posting was but a myth.

You have over 800 Threads for 2012 alone?

28 OPs in July and it's only the 9th!!!


It seems you are right about my screen name being used !!

in fact I found a few more than you are citing !!

Some sites even have the same picture avatar !!
(including the one I actually am a member aside from ATS)

It appears that somebody is "OutSourcing" me



This must be an indication of just how influential some things can be !!

The "Xuenchen" name is also a common name in China, along with some spelling variants.

Did you catch this one ........

Xue Chen (Chinese: 薛晨; pinyin: Xuē Chén; born 18 February 1989 in Fuzhou, Fujian) is a Chinese female beach volleyball player, measuring 6'3" or 191 cm in height. Her hometown is Fuzhou, Fujian, but she trains in Sanya, Hainan. She has also trained in California under coach Dane Selznick.

Xue Chen
"She" isn't me (I'm a guy !!)


and,

Xuen the White Tiger is one of the four creatures known as the August Celestials who watch over Pandaria. Xuen watches over the Kun-Lai Summit from the Temple of the White Tiger and is sometimes referred to as the Northern Celestial.

Xuen



"Chen" is something like the 4th or 5th most common name in China, and was a Dynasty






edit on Jul-10-2012 by xuenchen because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

It seems you are right about my screen name being used !!

in fact I found a few more than you are citing !!

Some sites even have the same picture avatar !!
(including the one I actually am a member aside from ATS)

It appears that somebody is "OutSourcing" me



That is a strange and frightening thought. Yes...when I googled you I looked to exclude outliers and looked for "Location:Las Vegas" and avatar.

I wonder what that is about? I understand the concept of "paid posters"...the "50 cent" clan of China that works for that gov. Iran and some other govs also have posting staff to influence public opinion...In the USA it is rare for gov paid posters as it is VERY risky if exposed or some insider blows the whistle, but political PR agencies do it a lot and include it in standard packages...after the BP spill I found a couple of BPs PR agencies quitely advertising for qualified paid posters on "current events". Plus a lot of the DC PR firms focused on politics offer the services of paid posters for a given candidate or issue/political agenda....slightly different than gov sponsored posters in Asia and Middle east.

BUT...I guess spoofing someone already posting and borrowing thier posts/screen names/avatar is a cheap solution as well? Are you flattered or offended? What does that say about your posts? Positive or negative...true or propaganda....useful to someone's agenda all the same.....tread carefully in this net world Xue...I have a funny feeling about you...I disagree with your OPs, think they are almost all propaganda, but "like" you all the same...be careful out there in net world.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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I've posted this on another thread concerning this subject but I'll place it here as well.

Obama and Out-Sourcing

Then there is this piece of interesting news

There is also this

Then there's this piece about the new Trans Pacific Partnership.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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That is a strange and frightening thought. Yes...when I googled you I looked to exclude outliers and looked for "Location:Las Vegas" and avatar.

I wonder what that is about? I understand the concept of "paid posters"...the "50 cent" clan of China that works for that gov. Iran and some other govs also have posting staff to influence public opinion...In the USA it is rare for gov paid posters as it is VERY risky if exposed or some insider blows the whistle, but political PR agencies do it a lot and include it in standard packages...after the BP spill I found a couple of BPs PR agencies quitely advertising for qualified paid posters on "current events". Plus a lot of the DC PR firms focused on politics offer the services of paid posters for a given candidate or issue/political agenda....slightly different than gov sponsored posters in Asia and Middle east.

BUT...I guess spoofing someone already posting and borrowing thier posts/screen names/avatar is a cheap solution as well? Are you flattered or offended? What does that say about your posts? Positive or negative...true or propaganda....useful to someone's agenda all the same.....tread carefully in this net world Xue...I have a funny feeling about you...I disagree with your OPs, think they are almost all propaganda, but "like" you all the same...be careful out there in net world.


Ya, "spoofing" is the term.

As for net safety, I don't even use the same computer for anything like banking or even email.


And i do actually live in Las Vegas (not from here originally however)
The avatars I have used were taken from open websites.

Somebody is shadowing I think.
For better or worse, I don't know because it seems the "spoofed" accounts don't have much activity, unless I find more.
Perhaps they are dormant until that "right time" pops up (whatever that would be)



All the "propaganda" is designed to either confirm the suspicions or prove 'em wrong.
"Propaganda" is only "propaganda" when "questionable" or proven false, with an agenda.
Right now, we see hundreds of these articles, mostly about Obama.

Without a full discussion, we would never be able to decide what's really going on.
(We ARE on a conspiracy site after all)

As for "paid"....no way.
Plus that, a paid poster would certainly take precautions with a username I would think.
And most of the "obvious" ones are hit & run specialists and may be using multiple accounts in unison.

Take care.



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