Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by Deetermined
Logic is circular talk?
It can be. See, even Autowrench accused me of speaking in circular logic. Let's face it, logic alone can't explain everything that we've witnessed
in life, not to mention that which we haven't witnessed.
Is God omnipotent, omnipresent, and timeless, or isn't it?
If it is, then Satan is impossible, if it isn't, then God is limited, weak, small.
Yes, God is all of those things, but that doesn't mean that Satan is impossible or that God is limited. It just means that God allows Satan to
exercise his free will, just like he allows you to exercise yours.
For those that believe in God, we have free will, but we choose not to exercise it. We try to align our will with God's will. In the end, everyone
is free to choose whether they want to align their will with God's will or Satan's will. You can sit there and logically say that you choose not to
do either, but then you're only deceiving yourself.
So which is it? Is your God responsible for all the evil as well as the good, or is your God small, limited, and weak? That is not
If you want to say that God is responsible for evil because he created Satan and created free will, then yes he's responsible for all of it, but he
chooses not to override free will and allows evil to happen in order that people will turn to Him willingly, not forcefully. God will never force
anyone to follow Him.
I've spoken to God, and God has told me that to describe it, or speak for it, or try to understand it in my human terms is to limit it.
That's Satan deceiving you into thinking that God is the one talking to you. God doesn't expect you to know everything, but He at least expects you
Most religions do not allow their God to be named, or drawn, or represented in any way, because as soon as we do, we humanize it, and limit it,
and we cease to understand the very nature of a true god. As soon as you presume to know anything about God, or describe it in any way, or try to
understand or assign any motivations for the way things are the way they are, as soon as you even attempt it, you have become farther from God.
Humans do have a way of trying to limit and humanize everything because of our own limited abilities, but that's no excuse to do nothing. As soon as
you do nothing or give up trying to figure it out, that's when you become further from God. Satan doesn't want you to even think about the fact that
there could be a God.
Just accept and experience this life, don't limit yourself, and don't limit God. At least that's what I was told when I asked.
It sounds to me like you're the one limiting yourself. Obviously, you weren't speaking to God when you asked. That's why people need to wake up to
the realization that Satan and evil exists. It's not just in man's mind or hearts. It is a real and dangerous spirit force that will tempt mankind
into destroying themselves before you can attempt to try and understand the truth.
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