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Originally posted by dreamdragon
luicefer isnt are friend n if he truly wanted to go back to god then god would forgive him maybe n let him back so what you say isnt right if he did go back to god then there would be no more sin.
Originally posted by steve1709
reply to post by robhines
Well what if the translations and interpretations of the Sumarian texts describing entities such as Enki and Enlil were true? That would mean that Enki was the devil (or lucifer) in the garden of "e den" when he helped mankind gain "knowledge" Then Enki was god when he let it slip to Ziusudra (Noah) [sorry about any spelling mistakes of names] But, Enki was lucifer but he was god but he was lucifer, sheesh, I guess it means that either lucifer was god who had a serious problem of multiple personalities or .... ??? So, IF lucifer was the good guy, then I reckon I would have to agree and be quite happy that finally people are seeing the light of day, because after reading how Enki was actually the one that was trying to help mankind to survive (especially after HE was the one to start the ball of humanity rolling in the first place) and his brother Enlil was the one who wanted to wipe us out (as god did with the flood story). I can see why godists wouldn't want to link biblical stuff to Sumerian mythology given the poor light that god is shown in.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by votan
I agree with you, it is a problem with perspective, but that isn't how most religions look at it. They give Satan dominion over hell, where men go to eternal damnation if they don't learn to behave well. Would you send your beagle to eternal damnation if it didn't behave well? OR would you just put it outside for awhile, and take some precautions to keep your things out of its reach?
The whole fire, and hell, and damnation, and evil Satan just don't make any sense to me. If there is a God, then all that other stuff is ridiculous to imagine. Why would anyone face an ETERNITY of heaven or hell based upon a short blink of an eye existence wrought with challenges here on Earth? It just doesn't make a lick of sense, and therefore it cannot be true.
"True Satanism is about elevating and empowering humanity to reach equality with the Gods, which was our True Creator (Satan's) intention"
"The original religions now known as "Satanism" (by the way, "Satan" means "enemy" in Hebrew), were all based upon what is known as the "Magnum Opus" or Great Work. The one known as "Satan" is our True Creator God. He was prevented by the other Gods from finishing his work on humanity, that of the godhead. The godhead is physical and spiritual perfection. Now, if you continue to read on, I will prove this."
"The stolen accounts in the Judeo-Christian Bible of humans living for hundreds of years or more were taken from the objective of the Magnum Opus. This is where all so-called "witchcraft" leads to- alchemy of the soul. This is the highest and most profound working of the human mind, that of accomplishing the godhead of which is our birthright given to us from our Creator Satan."
"Human sexuality has always been severely regulated and frowned upon by the Christian Church. This is because sexuality and orgasm as the life force are essential to spiritual advancement and the raising of the kundalini serpent."
Originally posted by Six6Six
reply to post by robhines
Lucifer is the ONLY one of the gods and devils that protected humans from day one.
It was god that lied to the masses much like the US government does today and preached how bad Lucifer is.
Infact he is the holy one the good one. You people who worship your gods, the world is the way it is because you people believe in drivel that causes greed and destruction. Nuff said....small people!
Originally posted by Oannes
Lucifer does translate as Lux :light, and Ferre: to carry. The bringer of Light. Lets also keep in mind that Lucifer (En.ki) told the truth in the Garden of Eden. Yahweh (En.lil) was the liar.
Originally posted by Oannes
Lucifer does translate as Lux :light, and Ferre: to carry. The bringer of Light. Lets also keep in mind that Lucifer (En.ki) told the truth in the Garden of Eden. Yahweh (En.lil) was the liar.
Originally posted by Deetermined
If I've overlooked Satan claiming to have the power to provide eternal life, can someone please point the way?
It's hard for me to believe that he has this ability if he doesn't even have power over the other gods.
Thank you.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Deetermined
Please understand the context of a "thief and a robber" is talking about false teachers and sheppards. Just wanted to point that tidbit out. Carry on.
Originally posted by Oannes
Lucifer does translate as Lux :light, and Ferre: to carry. The bringer of Light. Lets also keep in mind that Lucifer (En.ki) told the truth in the Garden of Eden. Yahweh (En.lil) was the liar.
Originally posted by Deetermined
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Deetermined
Please understand the context of a "thief and a robber" is talking about false teachers and sheppards. Just wanted to point that tidbit out. Carry on.
Yes, but you have to notice where he said "All that ever came before me" were the thieves and robbers.
Originally posted by Oannes
Lucifer does translate as Lux :light, and Ferre: to carry. The bringer of Light. Lets also keep in mind that Lucifer (En.ki) told the truth in the Garden of Eden. Yahweh (En.lil) was the liar.