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How 1 man derailed 20 years of democracy in Mali

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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by michaelbrux


if so...its not much to be concerned with.


Sorry Mike, I disagree........


The Rwandan Genocide was the 1994 mass murder of an estimated 800,000 people in the small East African nation of Rwanda. Over the course of approximately 100 days (from the assassination of Juvénal Habyarimana and Cyprien Ntaryamira on April 6) through mid-July, over 500,000 people were killed, according to a Human Rights Watch estimate.[1] Estimates of the death toll have ranged from 500,000–1,000,000,[2] or as much as 20% of the country's total population.


Rwandan Genocide

Civil War, Coups, etc....... Death counts ALWAYS mount.




posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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thanks for not giving me a reputable source...i'll just go look myself for when one man's genius is another man's idiot.

you'd think someone had written a book already about this phenomenon.

i really need to know how losing more than half one's land somehow turns into a goldmine.

if any of you are interested...i'd be willing to hold onto half of all you have while you figure out how to get it all back.

any takers?



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 08:56 PM
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i'm somewhat familiar with how Wanda tried to murder her way to glory...from what i've seen it didn't work well.

her victims have been having a great deal of sex and their population is almost back to where she left it.

but for all the others who think they can murder their way to glory...they can use that model.

i'll just use the sexing my way back to existence part of the model and toss the rest in the garbage.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska
 


not a random guy...a child and citizen of Mali decided one day to topple his own Government for no other reason than because he could do it and had no idea of what to do after the first move.

didn't you read the article?



BS to what's in bold above, that is so misleading ... i read the article and it was an "accident" which evolved from a planned protest. Not a planned coup.

i do agree with the rest of this post but this was not a planned event and yes the aftermath is chaos but who would have expected different after their sitting leader fled?



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by michaelbrux
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who are these people you site?

are they reputable?




C'mon man really? I would ask you the same question. The AP is the distribution engine for corporate owned news and misinformation. It always has been.

The gal that wrote your article left her come country and grew up to be a journalist. Her opinion does not make her an authority nor reputable.

Same is true for the guy that wrote the article I quoted.

My point in posting it was that it seems that Mali is being slandered now because there is not a US friendly government installed at the moment.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by zroth

Originally posted by michaelbrux
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who are these people you site?

are they reputable?




C'mon man really? I would ask you the same question. The AP is the distribution engine for corporate owned news and misinformation. It always has been.

The gal that wrote your article left her come country and grew up to be a journalist. Her opinion does not make her an authority nor reputable.

Same is true for the guy that wrote the article I quoted.

My point in posting it was that it seems that Mali is being slandered now because there is not a US friendly government installed at the moment.


haven't you read my Facebook page? corporate stuff is all I consider reputable; to me...the gal that wrote it might as well have be Athena.

the Mali Government may not be US friendly, but from my point of view it is friendly...if for no other reason for their own good.

ya feel me?

but it doesn't change the fact that the coup leader is a dimwit.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Honor93

Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska
 


not a random guy...a child and citizen of Mali decided one day to topple his own Government for no other reason than because he could do it and had no idea of what to do after the first move.

didn't you read the article?



BS to what's in bold above, that is so misleading ... i read the article and it was an "accident" which evolved from a planned protest. Not a planned coup.

i do agree with the rest of this post but this was not a planned event and yes the aftermath is chaos but who would have expected different after their sitting leader fled?


an accident?

sounds like an epic episode of 'I Love Lucy'.

intelligent people don't have accidents of that magnitude.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by michaelbrux

but it doesn't change the fact that the coup leader is a dimwit.



I didn't realize you know this guy.

I don't, so I'll let you get back to disparaging someone that fought for his nation and the well being of its citizens.

America needs 100 of these guys.

Peace



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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i don't know him...but I identify his actions as those of someone that should have been on the short bus in elementary school.

until he manages to get back the northern part of his country, which is the size of Texas, from focused and enthusiastic Islamists, i am certain that he should probably be seek treatment at a mental hospital.

so should anyone that sees his point of view.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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an accident?

sounds like an epic episode of 'I Love Lucy'.

intelligent people don't have accidents of that magnitude.
yes, an accident ... as in not planned.
i never said the coup leader was smart or intelligent for that matter.

however, the Presidential leader fled ... you know, abandoned his post.
what happened next may not have been based on the best decisions but it wasn't a planned coup, at least not by those who ended up at the palace.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:19 PM
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so should anyone that sees his point of view.

which point of view ?? the one that was thrust upon him or his request to be recognized as HoS ?

i agree that if he is going to hold the position, then he should hold the fort (rebel regions), however, this story doesn't allude to his pov, so what would that be, exactly?



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by Honor93
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an accident?

sounds like an epic episode of 'I Love Lucy'.

intelligent people don't have accidents of that magnitude.
yes, an accident ... as in not planned.
i never said the coup leader was smart or intelligent for that matter.

however, the Presidential leader fled ... you know, abandoned his post.
what happened next may not have been based on the best decisions but it wasn't a planned coup, at least not by those who ended up at the palace.






I Love Lucy...Western African version. no doubt.

for this guy...its not only about the people that ended up in the Palace who were beaten by an unruly mob, but about the people in the northern part of the country carving up person fiefdoms for themselves.

this retard gave away half the country way in less than a day.

the people he gave it to are beating their wives mercilessly and burning down their cities. all this after they betrayed their only allies on the planet.

Wow...i know to never seek any of your advice on how to keep people safe.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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his POV is implied.

he totally screwed over 15 Million people one day.

another few hundred million are looking upon the situation with their jaws on the ground in awe at his complete incompetence.

a couple of people on ATS are defending him...please...

...help Timbuktu...they need you.



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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for this guy...its not only about the people that ended up in the Palace who were beaten by an unruly mob, but about the people in the northern part of the country carving up person fiefdoms for themselves

i could agree with your pov but that isn't what you said when i called BS.


this retard gave away half the country way in less than a day
"gave away"
lost control surely but gave away?

how can you blame this guy (army capt?) for the abdication of the Presidency?
they didn't force the President to flee, he did that on his own didn't he?

i don't follow your angst for this one man who came upon the situation and lost control?
it happens alot in the battlefield from what i'm told.

when did you ever ask anyone in this thread, let alone me specifically, for advice on anything?



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 12:51 AM
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sorry, but from this story alone, i cannot fault him for the Presidential bail.
it would seem this was brewing for awhile?

sounds more like a CIA ambush to me anyway.


help Timbuktu...they need you
?? not sure if i should be offended or flattered.



posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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Originally posted by Honor93



help Timbuktu...they need you
?? not sure if i should be offended or flattered.



Flattered.

Its always better that way !




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