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Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by InTheLight
And you forget that without the business, those employees have no job.
Ironically, this is one of the things I am considering: is it even feasible to hire people in today's society, what with all the concessions that have been negotiated? I'm coming to the conclusion it probably is still feasible, but barely. I do not consider it feasible to spend my time and money and sweat on something that someone else will expect to just walk in and take from me; thankfully, I believe at this time I will be able to start up with a few hand-picked employees, mostly older workers who do not have the youthful sense of entitlement.
Again, you want the company profits, or feel you deserve the company profits? Start a company and they're all yours.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
As I define entitlement, it's a regular raise just for not getting fired, as opposed to a raise for doing something to deserve it.
It's demanding health insurance, even making it illegal not to offer it. It's demanding sick leave, vacation time, counselor services when your feelings get hurt, having to put in writing when you can't manage to show up on time so you don't sue for 'wrongful termination'... then demanding a share of the business profits on top of your pay.
And on top of all that, showing no respect or appreciation whatsoever for having all that handed to you in the first place. Instead, spending all day every day complaining about how I am taking advantage of you because you actually have to move during the day. That's what I see from the 'younger' generation and that's what I call entitlement.
Imperious "you don't deserve profits" attitudes result into "you don't deserve more than my mediocre effort".
Employers who have health insurance, sick leave (do you want ill employees coming to work to infect people?), vacation time and fair firing practices and profit sharing---they have enthusiastic and dedicated employees who don't feel "entitled'. Some might like coming into work.
After all, you're the one with the power to "pick and choose", and not the one finding themself at times on the desperate "short end of the stick", through no fault of your own.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by MidnightTide
Microsoft employs 92,000 people.
Apple, Inc. employs 60,400 people.
Facebook, Inc. employs 3539 people.
So, because Bill Gates built on Steve Jobs' work, because Steve Jobs was a taskmaster, because Mark Zuckerberg hacked into his school computer to start his prototype site, would you put 155,939 people out of work? How about the thousands of software companies that exist because Gates standardized the computer market?
I am not a huge fan personally of any of those people. I do, however, believe that they performed a service and produced products that people willingly paid for. That means they deserve their money. None of their employees were forced to take those jobs; all of them actually had to apply before being hired. No one has ever been forced to buy or use any of their products; all of them who did so paid money to have the product or chose to accept the terms and conditions to use the service.
How exactly is it wrong to give people something they obviously want?
TheRedneck
Originally posted by TheRedneck
Every business I have built operated on one single core concept: I was the one who started it, I was the one who grew it, and I was the one responsible for it. That meant I made the final decisions. Period. End of paragraph. End of discussion. There is something I just cannot stand about anyone coming into a business I built and thinking they should make decisions. Call it a pet peeve; call it arrogance; call it peanut butter. It is what it is.
TheRedneck
Originally posted by TheRedneck
reply to post by Moneyisgodlifeisrented
This is the new face of employment in America, they just want to get as much work done for the least amount of price paid out.
There's nothing new about that.
If you are qualified in a field where 10,000 others are also qualified, and there are 5,000 potential jobs, then you have to be in the top half of that group to get a chance to work. Qualified means the same thing it means when you are shopping for a TV: will it do a good job and how much will it cost. If you have a choice between a 50" plasma that costs $500 and a 52" plasma that costs $10,000, you're probably going to get the 50" set.
If you are more expensive than the other guys, you won't get the job. Period. It's not the employers being mean; it's the employers trying to make a living just like you are.
But if you are one of 10 in your area qualified for a job and there are 20 potential jobs, you have a job. As long as the employer can pay you what you want, they will. Just like in a Christmas sale, consumers fight over the last few items they want and will pay outrageous prices.
If you want a good high-paying job, pick a field where you don't have much competition. My son had a job with a decent starting wage three weeks after graduating high school. My chosen profession went computerized and I didn't, so I have had a much harder time.
But whatever you do, don't go in with the notion in your head that this guy sitting across the desk is just trying to use you as much as they can for as little as they can. You'll give off vibes that will make it pretty certain you won't be called back afterwards.
TheRedneck
Yes I was a good employee, extremely respectful even when I was belittled and used as a punching bag for his bad days. The guy begged me to stay. My health and sanity is more important. If you beat up your boss you would be in jail, more nonsense.
Originally posted by stanguilles7
Originally posted by getreadyalready
There is no employer, not even a menial factory job, or box loader at UPS, that doesn't want intelligent people that require little supervision.
Not true. If a higher up is insecure in their abilities, they will be afraid of those who they see as more capable. I've seen it happen quite a few times, even if its to the companies detriment. Remember, stupid people dont make smart decisions.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
I want you to be honest with me. I do not want a "yes man"... all that does is let me go off on a wild goose chase that will cost me money. I want someone to tell me when I ask what they think of a plan and why. I want someone who will let me know when they have a problem that might affect their job... that way I can plan for possible contingencies arising from those problems.
I want you to know your place. You are an employee... you come to work, put in your hours, get your pay, and go home. That's fine, but understand that I spent sleepless nights trying to put together business plans, argued with investors, invested my money, my time, my talents, went without because I needed equipment or materials that came before my home life, all without a guarantee of even getting paid, just to make my living and in the process create that job for you. Advice is fine and wanted, but the final decision is mine.
Disagreeing with my supervisor/elder coworkers about how something was done and they take it personally...
It's not the employee's fault...
I don't agree with this comparison you make.
You did most of the effort, but I STILL AM the one, or one of the people, that help you achieve it. It's like a coach of a football team that thinks he's the one that should receive all the credit, WRONG, the players contributed just as much, and are equally essential.
All people are essential, and I do not agree that some deserve a minimum wage for doing a harder job than others who receive a royal pay, no matter what job you do, if you contribute, you deserve a great life.