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Originally posted by FlySolo
Originally posted by Ectoplasm8
Originally posted by FlySolo
Camera movement would cause both lights to move in unison with each other, not cause one to pass in front of the other. Right?
This is being filmed inside a cockpit. The faint light could be a reflection from inside the cockpit onto the curved windshield. That would expain the strange trajectory.
I already mentioned both lights disappear behind the cloud
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by RoScoLaz
Wow. That looks a lot like a planet. Just like my dog looks almost like a cat. It's got fur like one, and if you look at it from this angle...
Just kidding. Whoever says this is Venus: would a pilot get distracted by Venus? The planet shows up every night/morning, and they suddenly notice it? Nah, it's not that simple.
I'm not saying it's an extraterrestrial craft or whatever, I'm just saying there's a deeper explanation than "Oh, it's Venus".
Venus continued to attract attention as a “UFO” throughout the period of my study. The witness in case 519 likened it to “Magnesium burning.” In case 890 and 896, the witnesses said Venus and Jupiter (close together) “became so bright that you could hardly look at them” and “they hurt your eyes to look at them” (for two and one half hours). My favorite comment, however, was provided by the FAA at Detroit Metropolitan Airport: “Do you know how many times we have cleared Venus to land?”
Suddenly, over the intercom our right rear gunner yells, "Jap fighter with a powerful spotlight diving on us, one o'clock high!" I look up and see the brilliant light of the diving fighter, just as we had been told about at the briefing. To escape, I push the B-29's nose down, diving and turning to the left. Then right. Now climb. Turn left. Right. Level out. I look up and see another fighter with its brilliant spotlight diving at us. Awaiting the bullets, I cringe and again dive, turn, turn, climb, level out. I look and see another fighter. No, wait. That light doesn't move. Then, finally it dawns on me. The atmospheric conditions were such that they created a layer of air which acted like a huge lens and magnified the light from the planet Venus. Over the intercom, I explain to the crew what the light really was and how the power of suggestion had fooled me.
A pilot, with 4,000 hours of flying time, attempted to intercept the UFO with his Cessna. On the ground the policemen saw the aircraft fly past the UFO several times. When they directed the pilot towards the UFO, the pilot attempted to pursue it. From the ground, it appeared that the pilot flew under the UFO and ignored it. However, in the air the pilot was following the UFO. To him, it appeared to move away when he attempted to pursue it and then came back when he turned away.
Pilot 1,2? : ..object's up in front of us
Pilot 1,2? : ..got him in sight.
Pilot 1,2? : ..you got a report at four one oh
A/T Control : ..you may see traffic out there ahead of you - 10 o'clock at about three miles....zero six zero roll out heading two zero now, turn left heading two zero....
Originally posted by Ectoplasm8
I looked at it again and the only thing that could resemble both objects behind a cloud is at the end. To me, that's either the camera zooming out with both objects slowly losing focus until you can't see either or 2 objects that actually go behind a cloud. The 2 objects still being stationary and the camera is moving/focusing.
You guys need to start at a grounded explaination first and not right to: "oh it's definitely a UFO". After you can explain away any known realistic reason, then think otherwise. These "objects" are clearly following the focus and path of the camera operator. Look again at the large object in the beginning being zoomed in on. As it reaches the closest point in which it can be focused on, it stops moving and so does the smaller one.
This suggests that not only was the object observed by one, possibly two seperate air crews, it also indicates that it showed up on radar for Air Traffic Control to be able to issue an approximate distance and direction of the object.
There are actually 2 aircraft involved. The plane recording the video is flying northwest at 38,000 feet, on the higher definition video, you can see the altimeter instrument reads 38,060 feet and a the direction of flight instrument shows a north west direction. The aircraft, heard on the radio, reporting objects in front of there aircraft is at 41,000 feet traveling east.
Originally posted by roadgravel
Youtube guys says the plane was headed NW (roughly 315 degrees) and the object was headed east.
Pilot 1,2? : ..object's up in front of us
Pilot 1,2? : ..got him in sight.
Pilot 1,2? : ..you got a report at four one oh
A/T Control : ..you may see traffic out there ahead of you - 10 o'clock at about three miles....zero six zero roll out heading two zero now, turn left heading two zero....
It seems like ATC is giving the object position of 3 miles out at 60 degrees (ENE). Is the 060 not a bearing but something else?
Turning left to 020 degrees would be done if the plane was headed east of 20 degrees and also would be away from the eastern path of the object.
2nd aircraft"Thirt seven, ya (sic) got a report at four one oh?
ATC"You may see traffic out there ahead of ya(sic)."
Flight 37"Ten O'clock and about three miles"
ATC "zero six rollout two zero zero now, turn left heading two zero zero "
Originally posted by Kandinsky