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UFO seen at 41000 feet recorded by copilot

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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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I don't see the object moving plus it seems they knew what they saw "the planet Venus, comes up every morning". On a related note, pilots sometimes mistake the planet Venus for other aircraft

Sleepy pilot mistakes planet Venus for oncoming plane, sends passenger jet into dive




posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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IF the bright light is venus what was the smaller light moving around it.

what direction were they heading and what time was it because Venus does NOT come up EVERY morning.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by -W1LL
IF the bright light is venus what was the smaller light moving around it.

what direction were they heading and what time was it because Venus does NOT come up EVERY morning.


I was on my iPad and I completely missed that dim light moving around the bright one. The focus seems to be on the bright light though and not the dim one that's moving, curious. To me that's a hint that perhaps, perhaps the dim light was added to this video. Hmmm...



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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Well it seems the debunkers have covered all the normal bases, Venus, Swamp gas, missile launch.

I call Bull#. It definitely isn't Venus, and I'm sure they wouldn't be launching missiles that close to an air traffic flight path.

Truthfully I don't know if it is E.T. in nature but it is definitely a UFO as it is unidentified.

So many experts on this site.......



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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I'm calling it fake based upon the conversations I hear on the radio. While in cruise flight, the pilot's will not be listening to an approach controller. You can hear the approach controller asking if someone "has the airport insight". You don't make visual contact with an airport at 41,000 feet....fake.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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The bright light is almost certainly Venus. When the video started and that was all I could see I thought this was going to be an easy one, but then the dim light started moving near it...

...if it's not an internal cockpit light reflecting of the windscreen, and not some sort of animation, then I don't know.

It's a good video, very interesting.

I do wonder about the radio conversations. I'm no pilot, so I don't know what should sound authentic, but those could easily have been faked.
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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
What I always wonder is why do these craft have lights on, either they want to be seen or they don't and I am sure they do not need it for flight safety purposes like we use them for. So the question begs, if they want to be seen then why not just come right out and do it. Otherwise why would any advanced alien craft have a light on so it can be identified. Thats why I can never believe these reports where they video a light in the sky.


in some cases the lights are electromagnetic charges from the propulsion system (photoluminescence) and in other cases the lights are the crafts communicating with one another or giving off signals sort of how maritime or aviation craft have lights that mean something, these lights are actually passing information between one another

www.dailymail.co.uk...

"The photonic chip, built by scientists from Bristol’s Centre for Quantum Photonics, uses light rather than electricity to pass information."



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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Considering the co-pilot said the bright object was Venus, I'm not sure why we would think it wouldn't be. I mean, I suppose he could be wrong about it being Venus, but without evidence supporting the idea that he might be wrong, I'm going to have to say that it could very well be Venus.

As for the dimmer object, it seemed to move with camera movement, so I think it could be an internal cockpit reflection on the inside of the windscreen.


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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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I am gonna go with the Venus crew, here.
Whatever it may be, cool video OP, thanks. I like it just because I like aircraft/aviation.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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ATC reports traffic at 10:00...the planet Venus doesn't have a transponder. I've flown thousands of hours with many bright people and none not one has ever mistaken the planet Venus for anything other than what it is. If we saw something out the ordinary it was out of the ordinary. If Venus can glow green please start posting videos of it.
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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by spy66
Last night at about 01.25 i saw something that looked like a meteor passing just north of Stavanger "Norway" going west over the Atlantic.

Was this recorded yesturday/last night.
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Clouded over last night, didn't see a thing, but...

Three nights ago I saw the same thing twice! I was standing out back having a cigarette and "asking" the stars for answers... ie. "Is anyone there?", "Can you hear me?", "Please save us", etc

All of a sudden, ZZZOoOOM, a bright star looking object (probably a "shooting star") shot from East to West. Then later it happened again.. Again probably just "shooting stars" but still neat considering I was asking for visible signs and then voi la!



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by Darkstar12
ATC reports traffic at 10:00...the planet Venus doesn't have a transponder.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the point of what you are saying here, but who's to say the traffic at 10 o'clock is the same bright object seen in the video? In fact, the bright object in the video (which could very well have been Venus, just like the co-pilot said) doesn't look like it was 10 o'clock of the plane's position. It looked closer to 1 o'clock.

If I am misunderstanding your point about the report of air traffic at the plane's 10 o'clock position, then I apologize.


I've flown thousands of hours with many bright people and none not one has ever mistaken the planet Venus for anything other than what it is. If we saw something out the ordinary it was out of the ordinary. If Venus can glow green please start posting videos of it.


There is this story, which was originally posted by "cripmeister" in an earlier post on this thread. It sounds like this pilot mistook Venus for an on-coming plane. It is a bit understandable, considering the pilot may have been fatigued, and that Venus looks similar to a plane's bright white landing light:

Sleepy pilot mistakes planet Venus for oncoming plane, sends passenger jet into dive



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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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Both lights appear to fade out behind the clouds at the end. So it can't really be a reflection. If the dimmer light is a star, then how can the movement be explained if it's Venus? If it's just a change of perspective, then the brighter light must be closer.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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Some interesting news guys.

I've asked the original Youtube poster for more informations/clarifications, here's his reply:


There are actually 2 aircraft involved. The plane recording the video is flying northwest at 38,000 feet, on the higher definition video, you can see the altimeter instrument reads 38,060 feet and a the direction of flight instrument shows a north west direction. The aircraft, heard on the radio, reporting objects in front of there aircraft is at 41,000 feet traveling east.


So if it's true (flying NW), then it can't be Venus a 1 or 2:00 o'clock (N or NE). Looking at the video makes me thing of a 1:00 o'clock position, then NNW or plain North.

I could be wrong though.

PS: I've asked him about the hour of video shot and if he could give me an idea about the plane position. With all these informations, we should be able to say wether it's Venus or not once and for all.
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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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I think Venus is in the NE, so the light is in the correct position.
www.skyandtelescope.com...



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Since when does Venus move around in the sky like that?

That's a terrible conclusion by posters who should know better.

ETA: It would be nice to get a date and time of the event for further investigation
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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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Venus.....no, it is in the daylight now, men
cool



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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I was just referring that someone from ATC radioed someone in that comm and told them traffic at 10:00. Usually you are notified of that when there is unknown traffic aka a small plane not transponding. I'm truly unsure what they are indicating but if they had traffic transposing to ATC they would have averted the traffic call. But you never know. Just an observation I noticed.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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I thought this was interesting when I first saw it. When I looked at it again, I can see the movements of the bright light correspond with the camera focusing in and out. You can see where the camera zooms in and stops. Then zooms out and the object goes out of focus and disappears. The green color is the camera too. Look at the beginning where the surrounding gauges are green



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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You didn't see any movement? There was a vague grayish shape in the background I used for reference, and it appears to vary slowly move around in the sky, moving and then staying still. Furthermore, it changes shape, the light rays shifting around...I don't see planet doing that kind of thing. Additionally, Venus is clearest in the morning. Was that during the morning? If not, I don't see any planet being that bright and not seeing any other planets or stars out there. That thing was the only light in the sky, rather unusual if your camera is good enough to catch planets.



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