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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 07:13 AM by TheStev

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

No offence, your post is very well written and I know you're a big contributor to ATS.

However, your explanation of a male-dominated society sounds like a cop-out to me. I'm not saying you're not right in some of what you say, but doesn't it ultimately boil down to 'we live in a male-dominated society because we always have'?

You can look at it both ways: it's a chicken & egg argument: we have wars therefore we have a male-dominated society. I feel like it could be the other way around. Perhaps it's a rough world because it's always been run by 'rough' men?

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 09:16 AM by bigfatfurrytexan

reply to post by The Sword

Oh, i am sure that the sexual connotation are obvious. The phallyc symbol is a symbol of our creator, or part of our creator. It represents the destructive force, the male/masculine force. Number 1, father

When you see the V shape, you are seeing the opposite of the phallyc symbol (for obvious reasons). The number 2, the creative force, the feminine, mother

3 is the harmonic blend of these two: humanity, children

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 10:19 AM by canyouhandletruth

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by coyote66

Regarding the obelisk, someone really, really likes phalluses. That's all.

It's another male way of saying "My dick is bigger, all repent!"

eh eh funny and true

or my dick is bigger so bend over and take it like a girl
eh eh

i guess thats why the white house stole it

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 10:27 AM by canyouhandletruth

Originally posted by purplemer
reply to post by OpinionatedB

Havent you wondered why it might be that Harvard (you know those people who own America) would like you (and all men) to quit drinking/eating something that is healthy?

what do you think is healthy about cow milk. Studies have shown it aids the growth of tumours in our bodies. We do not absorb the calcium from milk. It is full of antibiotics and hormones...

yes VERY good points
most people think milk ads calcium but it takes more than it puts, rice milk is better, we mostly have organic rice in oz

yes the cancer issue too

and man boobs girl brain syndrome

so girls try and take it easy on the dairy to keep healthy

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reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 11:38 AM by Myomistress

So does that mean I can go ahead and have that undercover black market hysterectomy and just drink milk instead of taking hormone tablets as to not become hairy and manly? =D

...All jokes aside.. -ahem-. I don't see this as much of a surprise. We all know that they inject our meat with growth hormones, estrogen, etc. It's whatever helps the animal produce what we need from it more quickly. Keep giving a cow estrogen, it'll keep giving milk at a rapid pace. Keep feeding cattle, chickens, and other livestock growth hormone, they'll grow up faster and will be slaughtered sooner to feed the consumer. They care about speed and production, not so much about what happens from there. I wouldn't be too worried about it though, people may eat cheese pretty regularly but many people forget to drink their daily amounts of milk for their bones (me included with the rest of the general population. ) I just don't think anyone is going to be harmed just yet by it but we will indeed need to see what happens because advanced levels of estrogen have been linked to forms of cancer... But then again everything in the world nowadays gives you cancer it's starting to seem so just live life, enjoy the hell of a ride, and whatever comes comes and can be dealt with when it does. Cancer runs in my family pretty commonly so I don't plan to live to be very old so I'm enjoying the time that I have now.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 11:45 AM by canyouhandletruth

Originally posted by Myomistress
So does that mean I can go ahead and have that undercover black market hysterectomy and just drink milk instead of taking hormone tablets as to not become hairy and manly? =D

...All jokes aside.. -ahem-. I don't see this as much of a surprise. We all know that they inject our meat with growth hormones, estrogen, etc. It's whatever helps the animal produce what we need from it more quickly. Keep giving a cow estrogen, it'll keep giving milk at a rapid pace. Keep feeding cattle, chickens, and other livestock growth hormone, they'll grow up faster and will be slaughtered sooner to feed the consumer. They care about speed and production, not so much about what happens from there. I wouldn't be too worried about it though, people may eat cheese pretty regularly but many people forget to drink their daily amounts of milk for their bones (me included with the rest of the general population. ) I just don't think anyone is going to be harmed just yet by it but we will indeed need to see what happens because advanced levels of estrogen have been linked to forms of cancer... But then again everything in the world nowadays gives you cancer it's starting to seem so just live life, enjoy the hell of a ride, and whatever comes comes and can be dealt with when it does. Cancer runs in my family pretty commonly so I don't plan to live to be very old so I'm enjoying the time that I have now.

most cow meat in oz now is hormone free

google mms1 jim humble

spirulina is needed for vitamins now as plants are grown in the same location with only chemicals
moringa oleifera for diabetes and countless other ailments

be positive google nocebo effect

meditate

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 12:38 PM by Ilyich

reply to post by Xaphan

Do you remember 911?

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 12:44 PM by Ilyich

reply to post by coyote66

Lactos intolerance develops in all mammals naturally once they move on to solid foods, it's by continually flooding the system with milk that our bodies adapt, and break down the dairy. The reason, they don't want people to eat raw milk, is that raw milk contains bacteria that helps our digestive systems break the milk down, as well as other bacteria, nutrients, hormones ( additives,chemicals,growth hormones.) Sometimes harmful bacteria can be passed from unhealthy cows. Rather than risk it they cook it, destroying the bacteria leaving the milk nearly useless on it's own and leading to potential problems digesting the dairy products. Milk is intended for young, not adult mammals of any kind.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 12:53 PM by wlord

i gave up dairy months ago

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 02:02 PM by BreeAnna00

I didn't read through each comment but most cows are injected with a hormone called rbgh. This produces 15% more milk, and causes a lot of cows to get an infection called mastitis. They then pass pass the bacteria, pus, and dead blood cells on through their milk.

About 6 months ago I started drinking regular milk every single morning for about 4 months until i read this article. During that 4 months (im 25 fyi), I was started to get very painful acne, and I got an infection in my ear called otitis (sounds like mastitis). I highly doubt milk was the cause but I believe it a lot more harm then good. I've been drinking raw milk since and I rarely get a break out, and my ears have been doing much better

The headline to the article is pretty funny...
www.naturalnews.com...

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 02:06 PM by Moneyisgodlifeisrented

I've been drinking milk since I was born, I drink A lot of milk, 2%, slim, 1%, whole, I don't care, it's milk I like it.

Now I am 31, a male, in the USA. I am 6'3, 230lbs, I am muscular, Hairy and about as Manly as I can get.
Where's all the estrogen and Moobs I've been told I'm gonna have?

I also eat cheese like it's my life blood. I still gain muscle when I work out, I don't have Moobs, I haven't had the urge to suddenly cry at the sunset, and I am pretty sure my sperm count is ok, as I have 3 kids, doing fine.

Next theory.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 02:09 PM by BobAthome

reply to post by canyouhandletruth

sounds like your a Hindu who hates fat gay guys??

or was that the Harvard Author?

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 03:37 PM by AfterInfinity

reply to post by canyouhandletruth

Is that why I keep seeing 14 year old girls with the breasts of mature women? And before you say it, Yes, I do notice these things. With the anatomical features that clearly indicate my gender, I am NOT going to simply ignore those mammary glands that are BULGING through the chest of a 14 year old.

Did that ever used to happen? Is it something new? It drives me nuts! Not just because of my reaction, but imagining how much harder it will be to convince them that they are not ready for sex, with all those boys hounding them with tongues lolling...

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 04:51 PM by purplemer

reply to post by coyote66

Thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard! Any kind of animal protein/amino acid is easily processed by the human abdominal digestive hormones!

Not really the case.. For example goats milk is far more digestable by humans than cow...

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 05:24 PM by frugal

The hormones aren't just in milk. Hormones "estrogen" are in shampoo, fertilizer, insect killers, plastics, lotions, perfumes, cosmetics, etc.... Birth control pills. Other women walking around have hormone clouds floating around them. This is how a whole floor of college women in a dorm all end up menstrating the same week of the month as a group.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 05:55 PM by canyouhandletruth

Originally posted by Moneyisgodlifeisrented
I've been drinking milk since I was born, I drink A lot of milk, 2%, slim, 1%, whole, I don't care, it's milk I like it.

Now I am 31, a male, in the USA. I am 6'3, 230lbs, I am muscular, Hairy and about as Manly as I can get.
Where's all the estrogen and Moobs I've been told I'm gonna have?

I also eat cheese like it's my life blood. I still gain muscle when I work out, I don't have Moobs, I haven't had the urge to suddenly cry at the sunset, and I am pretty sure my sperm count is ok, as I have 3 kids, doing fine.

Next theory.

yes but try 2 weeks no dairy you will be surprised
also not good for the heart

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 05:56 PM by Myomistress

Well, me already being a woman and flooding with estrogen I guess I don't see much of an issue besides the heightened cancer risks from too many female hormones flowing through our bodies.

And to the person above: I've already accepted a young death so I've been trying as many new things and living it up as much as possible. I only predict to live to be about 68 just from family history. I have heart problems now already that only get worse and great risk for all kinds of nasty cancers. I try to take care of myself but still be sure to party it up.

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 05:57 PM by canyouhandletruth

Originally posted by Ilyich
reply to post by coyote66

Lactos intolerance develops in all mammals naturally once they move on to solid foods, it's by continually flooding the system with milk that our bodies adapt, and break down the dairy. The reason, they don't want people to eat raw milk, is that raw milk contains bacteria that helps our digestive systems break the milk down, as well as other bacteria, nutrients, hormones ( additives,chemicals,growth hormones.) Sometimes harmful bacteria can be passed from unhealthy cows. Rather than risk it they cook it, destroying the bacteria leaving the milk nearly useless on it's own and leading to potential problems digesting the dairy products. Milk is intended for young, not adult mammals of any kind.

yes i agree its for babies

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 05:59 PM by canyouhandletruth

Originally posted by BreeAnna00
I didn't read through each comment but most cows are injected with a hormone called rbgh. This produces 15% more milk, and causes a lot of cows to get an infection called mastitis. They then pass pass the bacteria, pus, and dead blood cells on through their milk.

About 6 months ago I started drinking regular milk every single morning for about 4 months until i read this article. During that 4 months (im 25 fyi), I was started to get very painful acne, and I got an infection in my ear called otitis (sounds like mastitis). I highly doubt milk was the cause but I believe it a lot more harm then good. I've been drinking raw milk since and I rarely get a break out, and my ears have been doing much better

The headline to the article is pretty funny...
www.naturalnews.com...

yes the ladies seem to notice these things more than men

reply posted on 7-7-2012 @ 06:04 PM by canyouhandletruth

Originally posted by frugal
The hormones aren't just in milk. Hormones "estrogen" are in shampoo, fertilizer, insect killers, plastics, lotions, perfumes, cosmetics, etc.... Birth control pills. Other women walking around have hormone clouds floating around them. This is how a whole floor of college women in a dorm all end up menstrating the same week of the month as a group.

yes some chemicals act like hormones
isnt the moon something to do with ovulation?

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