reply to post by Gmoneycricket
Sad part is the site seems to confirm,
what Ted Nugent said.
There is a god! I shall thank you for at least reading the article, not surprised... rather, inspired.
Because our legislative, judicial and executive branches of government hold the 10th Amendment in contempt, I’m beginning to wonder if it would have
been best had the South won the Civil War. Our Founding Fathers’ concept of limited government is dead.
Because of the chief justice’s vote, Fedzilla just burped and is now prepared to gobble up even more of our tax dollars, more of our GDP and limit
even more opportunity in the private sector.
Chief Justice Roberts‘ opinion was that Obamacare was a tax, not a mandate under the Commerce Clause to purchase a product, and that Congress can
levy any tax it wants.
We're fortunate that Madison, Morris, Jefferson were intelligent men, who did see into the future(figuratively) and understood what roads were ahead
of us in regards to the wording of the Constitution. Thank goodness for men like Alexander Hamilton that placed unity over self, in the promotion of
the constitution. It's this whole Commerce Clause thing, and the interpretations of the word 'welfare' that are getting a little out of whack...
Well, they have been for a while now. It's as if, nobody wants to read or understand anything John Locke had to say about property and the protection
of it... then to confuse slaves as property, under some hypocritical notion that all men are still created equal in respect to life, liberty and the
'pursuit of happiness'.
I think Ted is intelligent enough to understand the principals of the Constitution, I just think he's too bigoted to understand the complexities of
the world and allowing prosperity for all those that find themselves citizens AND residents of the US.
It's getting disgusting, that people are just not willing to let markets be markets, and economies slowly fix themselves. Look, we got into a big
mess... and we're still in one. What's to blame? Bad policies, crap mortgages, immature/ignorant speculation, and misplaced incentives... it's all
about incentive. It then sucks, because we're stuck with a bunch of pieces to a puzzle that doesn't require so many pieces in the first place! That's
when the Keynesian's get all up and ready to start bailing out everyone and their mom, while Hayekian's slowly emerge from the shadows.
I'm not going to sit here and pretend to know every use of the commerce clause, yet... I can not find one that I agree with. From what I've heard,
this is the very same clause used to try and protect the Obamacare mandate.
Here's some weak, although informative links...
The commerce clause part is of interest here
Although about land, natural resources... and who has say over what... the
The proviso says that though every appropriation of property is a diminution of another's rights to it, it is acceptable as long as it does not make
anyone worse off than they would have been without any private property.
Now... when you parallel this with the money taken out of peoples pockets in the name of health care. Money that is derived from work, that becomes
Money is property; indeed, the Supreme Court has held that money involves the same set of rights the Constitution attaches to land or personal
property, that is, the “right to possess, use and dispose of it.”
The government 'taking' our money IS leaving individuals worse off. THEIR work, is in the name of THEIR choice with their life, in the name of THEIR
pursuit of happiness.
It should be obvious that federally mandating the citizens of the US to pay into such a thing as healthcare is a joke. One that, if presented....
Locke, Madison, and the others would have scoffed at. I wonder what Hamilton would have had to say about it, I bet it would shock people. Incentives
of being removed from tax burdens!?!?! This is madness...
This then leads down a rabbit hole, considering the whole federal income tax thing and such....
Ok, I'm done ranting for now lol... you should know where I stand by now, please no more taking what I say out of context. I'm hear neither to offend,
or give lessons... just state some opinions and prove my point. This isn't about Obamacare(although it kinda is), it's about Ted Nugent. The man is
a hack, as I've stated before... yet, he does understand a thing or two about the constitution and freedom. I think he would be incredibly wrong to
assume that we'd be better off if the South had won... I'd say we've had enough speculation of past events, time to move on.
edit on 6-7-2012
by FractalChaos13242017 because: additional comment