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Occupiers Celebrate 4th of July by…Burning American Flags and Vandalizing Police Property

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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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That's why we came down HARD on any person or group that tried to manipulate our Tea Party rallys.


So why are you so soft on your actual politicians and leaders? Ya got a lot of of problems.

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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by beezzer
 


And how did you go about doing that?

Anyone with an agenda, anyone who misrepresented themselves was outed and ousted. We network all the time.
My group is retired and active duty military.

We tread lightly due to obvious concerns (McCain-Feingold Act) and even though we're quiet, we're out there.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Kali74
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And don't you see how it can be used to discredit or worse a peaceful movement?

Absolutely!

That's why we came down HARD on any person or group that tried to manipulate our Tea Party rallys.


for the legality of peaceful assembly for redress of grevences,
we are not allowed to pick who can protest,
only that peaceful non violence is a prerequisite

any person any colour any political ideology

to exclude anyone doesnt forfill the righ to redress as layed out in the constitution.

the founders made the rules

xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Who says we're soft?

I had a state respresentative try to talk to me for 45 minutes to change our support.

Just because we don't make headlines does NOT mean we aren't working.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Kali74
 
But don't you see how Black bloc can now be used as a scapegoat for ANY malfeasence?



what about the tea party in congress voting FOR THE NDAA?
did you throw them out for that?

you hold occupy as bad for some windows,
what about helping pass laws to enslave your faithful tea party into indefinate detention?

WHICH IS WORSE?

xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Anyone is free to address their issues.

Just don't do it in our arena, it dilutes OUR message.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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it would seem like selling out your people once in power is what the tea party is about,
NDAA

is this what the tea party was founded for?

to help pass the NDAA?

star for you info,
i hiope others watch as i have

xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Kali74
 
But don't you see how Black bloc can now be used as a scapegoat for ANY malfeasence?



what about the tea party in congress voting FOR THE NDAA?
did you throw them out for that?

you hold occupy as bad for some windows,
what about helping pass laws to enslave your faithful tea party into indefinate detention?

WHICH IS WORSE?

xploder


Those that voted for NDAA lost our support, includng someone I actively campaigned for.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by XPLodER
 
Anyone is free to address their issues.

Just don't do it in our arena, it dilutes OUR message.



please explain?

please?

what arena?
whats your message?

indefinate detention ?

xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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So you interfered with others Freedom of Speech?

Anyway how was Occupy Oakland supposed to do anything about what people do at marches they aren't involved in?



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Kali74
 
But don't you see how Black bloc can now be used as a scapegoat for ANY malfeasence?



what about the tea party in congress voting FOR THE NDAA?
did you throw them out for that?

you hold occupy as bad for some windows,
what about helping pass laws to enslave your faithful tea party into indefinate detention?

WHICH IS WORSE?

xploder


Those that voted for NDAA lost our support, includng someone I actively campaigned for.


you dodged a direct question,

is broken windows WORSE than voting yes for the NDAA?

xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by stanguilles7

Originally posted by sonnny1

The Tea Party's Protect their own. I believe those Tactics only work, when the known Idea of the Police, and Regular OWS Protesters,are NOT going to do anything . Arrest, is the worst thing that will happen. Tea Party members, with Guns is an X Factor.


What, specifically, did the 'tea party' (brought to you by FreedomWorks) accomplish with their protests?


i can answer this

they voted FOR the NDAA
thats what they achived

the burning of the right to a court trial

go tea party



xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by XPLodER
 
Anyone is free to address their issues.

Just don't do it in our arena, it dilutes OUR message.



please explain?

please?

what arena?
whats your message?

indefinate detention ?

xploder


Our message is personal responsibility and individuality.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by beezzer
 


So you interfered with others Freedom of Speech?

Anyway how was Occupy Oakland supposed to do anything about what people do at marches they aren't involved in?


No.

MY freedom of speech was used to tell them not to use the Tea Party fortheir personal platform.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Kali74
 
But don't you see how Black bloc can now be used as a scapegoat for ANY malfeasence?



what about the tea party in congress voting FOR THE NDAA?
did you throw them out for that?

you hold occupy as bad for some windows,
what about helping pass laws to enslave your faithful tea party into indefinate detention?

WHICH IS WORSE?

xploder


Those that voted for NDAA lost our support, includng someone I actively campaigned for.


those who broke windows NEVER HAD OUR SUPPORT

xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Their agenda is to campaign for neo-feudalism in the USA while calling themselves "patriots".

They pray for the plantation model to return once again.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by XPLodER


you dodged a direct question,

is broken windows WORSE than voting yes for the NDAA?

xploder


You can't compare the two. NDAA hurts innocent people.

So does broken windows.



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by XPLodER
 
Anyone is free to address their issues.

Just don't do it in our arena, it dilutes OUR message.



please explain?

please?

what arena?
whats your message?

indefinate detention ?

xploder


Our message is personal responsibility and individuality.


and yet you want us to police people (not our job)
and you think we should reject peoples views because they differ from ours?

wtf?

what about personal responciabliity ?
its our job to be responciable for others?

and any individual (comunist) must be rejected because their ideaology dosnt match the main stream?
what about individuallity?

xploder



posted on Jul, 7 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by RealSpoke
reply to post by XPLodER
 


Their agenda is to campaign for neo-feudalism in the USA while calling themselves "patriots".

They pray for the plantation model to return once again.


Bullspit.

Nice try telling me what I believe though.




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