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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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Libya elections: Muslim Brotherhood set to lead government


www.t elegraph.co.uk

While the elections for a 200-member National Congress is unlikely to grant a majority to any one faction, the Muslim Brotherhood and its Islamist allies are confident they can join their counterparts in Tunisia and Egypt at the helm of leadership.

Negotiations between the Muslim Brotherhood and a secular-based political movement led by former interim prime minister Mahmoud Jibril have focused on forming a post-election government as soon as the result is known.

An adviser to Mr Jibril said the former prime minister was likely to take the post of figurehead president with Mustafa Abu Sha
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 09:27 PM
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I believe this was the plan all along by Obama and the Democrats. They want to put the Muslim Brotherhood into power. The reason why they became less vocal about the Muslim Brotherhood is because some of the radical things that have come from this group.

It's starting to sound like that Bible Prophecy that says he will subdue three kings. If Syria is next and the Muslim Brotherhood gains power, I wouldn't be surprised.

Here's more:


Israeli News Blames Barack Obama For Muslim Brotherhood’s Rise to Power

Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu issued an official reaction to the victory of Islamist Mohammed Mursi in Egypt’s presidential elections Sunday.

“Israel appreciates the democratic process in Egypt and respects its results,” said Netanyahu.

“Israel expects the continuation of the cooperation with the Egyptian regime on the basis of the peace treaty between the two countries, which is an interest of both peoples and contributes to the stability of the region,” he added.

With over 80 million inhabitants, Egypt is the most populous Arab country and has always been considered Israel’s most formidable neighbor. When Egyptian president Anwar Sadat ended 30 years of formal enmity by recognizing Israel and signing a peace treaty with it, many Israelis saw this as the beginning of the end of the existential threat to Israel from its neighbors. In return for the treaty, Israel handed over the entire Sinai Peninsula, which it had captured from Egypt in the Six Day War.

Sadat was assassinated by Muslim extremists because of the peace treaty and was replaced by Hosni Mubarak, who ruled for 30 years. The friendliness of U.S. President Barack Obama toward the Muslim Brotherhood, a movement formerly considered illegitimate by the West, is now seen as one of the reasons for Mubarak’s downfall and the Brotherhood’s rise to power.

Israelis are now concerned that Egypt may cease to honor its treaty with Israel, and that terror from Sinai and Gaza will increase.


It might get ugly.

www.t elegraph.co.uk
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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The muslim brotherhood is going to be a major player in the attempt to rebuild the caliphate in the coming years.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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reply to post by neoholographic
 




I believe this was the plan all along by Obama and the Democrats. They want to put the Muslim Brotherhood into power. The reason why they became less vocal about the Muslim Brotherhood is because some of the radical things that have come from this group.

The plan wasn't just started by the Democrats it was started by the republicans.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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Ok, so what should our approach to them be? Encourage and aid them in building the caliphate, drone the heck out of them, send them money, try to destabilize their governments? What do you like the looks of?



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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I'm not too sure what the CIA is planning here unless they simply lost control of the situation or someone messed up big time in planning as appeared to be the case when they funded the Mujahideen in Afghanistan and by extension Bin laden. There is one theory I have and it's a simple one. They want future conflict as a reason for the US to stay involved in the Middle East.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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Easy..Subvert them. Use their natural inclination toward violent paranoia against them. Just think, how many of their own throats would be cut if they knew that they had a Jooooooooooooo spy in their midst.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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Maybe its time for the US to withdraw from all international politics and military actions.
Other than WW2 I dont think 1 thing the yanks have done has done anyone any good, All these countries we now have to worry about werent that long ago all pro west.
Now as a direct result of American meddling we need to be seriously concerned about a united and militant fundamentalist Islamic Regime that will basically rule all of the Middle East.

Once you get 3 countries all ruled by Strict Islamics its very unlikely especially with each others support they are ever going to leave power, slowly (or perhaps quickly) other countries around them will be pulled into it, some nutter will get into power and then we have Jihad.

Top job US policy makers, keep up the good work



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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hard line fascists, it's no surprise they'd want their own kind all across the globe to make it easier to control.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 03:41 AM
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Originally posted by 11235813213455
The muslim brotherhood is going to be a major player in the attempt to rebuild the caliphate in the coming years.


Calipate? You mean like a United States of Arabia?


Go USA.

USA!!!
USA!!!
USA!!!

The irony is that when the Caliphate dominated the world several hundred years ago, Jews spilled out of Europe to escape the pogroms and the Inquisition and insinuated themselves amongst the Caliphs and ran think tanks encouraging conflict with Christian terrorists.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by Ilovecatbinlady

Originally posted by 11235813213455
The muslim brotherhood is going to be a major player in the attempt to rebuild the caliphate in the coming years.


Calipate? You mean like a United States of Arabia?


Go USA.

USA!!!
USA!!!
USA!!!

The irony is that when the Caliphate dominated the world several hundred years ago, Jews spilled out of Europe to escape the pogroms and the Inquisition and insinuated themselves amongst the Caliphs and ran think tanks encouraging conflict with Christian terrorists.


Christian terrorists= oxymoron
So many people want to kill christians, why? You obviously don't understand the message of christ and neither do the murderers.
God bless you



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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You never heard of the Spanish inquisition




The Inquisition was originally intended in large part to ensure the orthodoxy of those who converted from Judaism and Islam. This regulation of the faith of the newly converted was intensified after the royal decrees issued in 1492 and 1501 ordering Jews and Muslims to convert or leave.


en.wikipedia.org...

The Jews left with the Muslims for obvious reasons.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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The problem is a majority of the people want a Muslim nation because they believe it to be the right way. They don’t realize that their government will be more radical as time goes on. An Islamic state is more appealing to men then than women. Women are treated like livestock, and not allowed to vote. It is very different from democracy that would benefit their society. We cannot spend billions of dollars to liberate a country and have it go back to the dark ages of Islamic rule, why fight it. Maybe someday these people will have a revolution to gain their own freedom, only then will they appreciate it. Right now, as in Iraq, you can hand these people freedom on a silver platter and they will go back to Islamic rule.

By past example their societies will become stagnate non productive, From the US point of view that’s all you can do is wait and hope some day the majority of the people stand up for their own rights and step into the twenty first century. Until then the rulers will tighten their grip on the non-productive population and the country can create its own quagmire. On those terms, we have to protect our own country by trying to limit their arms procurement and development. Only when these people realize democracy is the only way a country can flourish they will be stranded in the fifth century. Give women the same rights as men and we will see a true Arab spring



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:28 AM
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All they are doing is setting up future enemies and enemy states to keep the military spending and those bankrolling it wealthy. In doing so they are removing secular governments who have been keeping warring factions apart. Iraq, then Libya and now Syria. It's all planned, has been for a long time and sure isn't internally driven in any of these states. Everyone is being played in the name of profit, or rather, debt and the control it creates.

The death and destruction it creates along the way means nothing to those who seek the power over us all. We are mere statistics and assets used to fight their wars.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Thanks for the link. The Spanish Inquisition has been effectively over for 200 years. Why does Islam still have it as a basic part of its control system? It's one thing to go wrong, it's another to keep going wrong after you been shown your error and a better way.

Oh, and from your link:

One of the first books to challenge the classical view was The Spanish Inquisition (1965) by Henry Kamen. Kamen established that the Inquisition was not nearly as cruel or as powerful as commonly believed. The book was very influential and largely responsible for subsequent studies in the 1970s to try to quantify (from archival records) the Inquisition's activities from 1480 to 1834. Those studies showed there was an initial burst of activity against conversos suspected of relapsing into Judaism, and a mid-16th century pursuit of Protestants, but the Inquisition served principally as a forum Spaniards occasionally used to humiliate and punish people they did not like: blasphemers, bigamists, foreigners and, in Aragon, homosexuals and horse smugglers. There were so few Protestants in Spain that widespread persecution of Protestantism was not physically possible. Kamen went on to publish two more books in 1985 and 2006 that incorporated new findings, further supporting the view that the Inquisition was not as bad as once described by Lea and others. Along similar lines is Edward Peters's Inquisition (1988).



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy
All they are doing is setting up future enemies and enemy states to keep the military spending and those bankrolling it wealthy. In doing so they are removing secular governments who have been keeping warring factions apart. Iraq, then Libya and now Syria. It's all planned, has been for a long time and sure isn't internally driven in any of these states. Everyone is being played in the name of profit, or rather, debt and the control it creates.

The death and destruction it creates along the way means nothing to those who seek the power over us all. We are mere statistics and assets used to fight their wars.




I've predicted this MB take over ever since the West never intervened in Egypt- the plan became even more blatant when they then invaded Libya to make way for the MB.

It is a long term plan as you say. They are creating enemies to keep this never ending war going, not only that, Israel is ever isolated.

Before we know it the whole region will be at war, and in this very thread people are talking about how its 'the Democrats, oh no it's not it's the Republicans...'



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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I am saddened by how little faith members here have on our Libyan brothers and sisters.

Who are the Muslim Brotherhood in Libya? Are they Egyptians? or Saudis? or Afghans? or Al Queda?,etc

They are only citizens of Libya, for NO non-citizen can get elected in Libya, after a much hard won freedom to Democracy by their own blood kin and society, made up of families, relatives and friends.

They DO have a right to their way of life and a choice of which direction they the people thinks it should be headed towards, with no interference by the rest of the world, so long as no human is hurt or harmed.

If the leaders fail, the People will excercise their choice within a few years to boot those inept leaders out, Muslim Brethens or whatever fanciful misleading label leaders love to tag on. THAT is the power of Democracy, the excercise of vote peacefully for an administration to lead in the common goals of life ALL humans share.

Furthermore, the Libyan Free People will NEVER forget what the rest of humanity had done for them, despite great risks with a few members in the UN Security Council members not supporting their freedom. The Libyans are only fellow humans, capable of conscience, even if their leaders do not.

No Libyan child will ever forget their placard for 'Mama Clinton' to help them in their hour of need. And in return, fellow mankind will know that no Libyan will turn away from us in our hour of need, even if their leaders do.

Have a bit more faith in Humanity. The OWS protestors whom shared a pizaa will never forget the compassion from an Egyptian who face even greater dangers in Egypt, who send them that meal. Simple acts...but means much and held dear, by those whom have hearts.....

Together, as one race, we are invincible...




posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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Yes, Libya should welcome their conquerors and future oppressors. Down with imperialism, in with sharia
en.wikipedia.org...

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The Brotherhood's credo was and is, "God is our objective; the Quran is our law, the Prophet is our leader; Jihad is our way; and death for the sake of God is the highest of our aspirations."[15][16] The Brotherhood's English language website describes the "principles of the Muslim Brotherhood" as including firstly the introduction of the Islamic Shari`ah as "the basis controlling the affairs of state and society;" and secondly work to unify "Islamic countries and states, mainly among the Arab states, and liberating them from foreign imperialism

Its founder, Hassan Al-Banna, was influenced by Islamic reformers Muhammad Abduh and Rashid Rida. In the group's belief, the Quran and Sunnah constitute a perfect way of life and social and political organization that God has set out for man. Islamic governments must be based on this system and eventually unified in a Caliphate. The Muslim Brotherhood's goal, as stated by Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna was to reclaim Islam's manifest destiny, an empire, stretching from Spain to Indonesia.[19] It preaches that Islam enjoins man to strive for social justice, the eradication of poverty and corruption, and political freedom to the extent allowed by the laws of Islam. The Brotherhood strongly opposes Western colonialism, and helped overthrow the pro-western monarchies in Egypt and other Muslim countries during the early 20th century

Post WWII

In November 1948, following several bombings and assassination attempts, the government arrest 32 leaders of the Brotherhood's "secret apparatus" and banned the Brotherhood.[29] At this time the Brotherhood was estimated to have 2000 branches and 500,000 members or sympathizers.[30] In succeeding months Egypt's prime minister was assassinated by a Brotherhood member, and following that Al-Banna himself was assassinated in what is thought to be a cycle of retaliation.

In 1952 members of the Muslim Brotherhood are accused of taking part in the Cairo Fire that destroyed some "750 buildings" in downtown Cairo — mainly night clubs, theatres, hotels, and restaurants frequented by British and other foreigners.[31]

In 1952 Egypt's monarchy was overthrown by nationalist military officers supported by the Brotherhood. However the Brotherhood opposed the secularist constitution of the coup leaders and in 1954 some historians claim that they attempted an assassination against Egypt's President (Gamal Abdel Nasser), and blamed on the "secret apparatus" of the Brotherhood (this attempt was unsuccessful). The Brotherhood was again banned and this time thousands of its members were imprisoned, many of them held for years in prisons and concentration camps, and tortured.

Since the 1970s the Egyptian Brotherhood has disavowed violence and sought to participate in Egyptian politics.[32] Imprisoned Brethren were released and the organization was tolerated to varying degrees with periodic arrests and crackdowns until the 2011 Revolution.



OH,I almost forgot, death to USA and Isreal
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