"The Voice of Russia reporting is a complete fabrication. The Russian Air Force (RFAF) was supposed to observe RED FLAG-Alaska (RF-A) 12-2, 6-14 Jun 12 but RFAF observation was cancelled due to reciprocity issues.
Instead, a RFAF one-star general participated in the Executive Observer Program at RF-A 14-19 Jun 12. RFAF participation at RED FLAG-Nellis was never considered and no further RFAF observation/participation in RF is planned at this time."
Originally posted by 74Templar
reply to post by Zaphod58
So what are the USAF bringing to the table? It'd be interesting to see if they break out the F22s to go up against the Russian aircraft, but I don't know if the USAF would be publicly announcing if their most advanced aircraft were to be beaten by Russian MiG29s and Su27s.
Originally posted by mbkennel
Acutally that's what they would do (even by sandbagging US capabilities) so they can go bleat to Congress for MOR MONEH.
Originally posted by NoSoup4U I never saw Russians on a U.S. Base in the homeland. This is absolutely absurd.
While Grune does not directly say that the Eurofighters emerged as the overall victors, he strongly implies it.
"I put out some whiskey. If they come back with some good performances, and if you know what the goal is from a BFM setup, and you achieve that, then I will pay you whiskey," he says. "And I paid quite a lot of whiskey."
That account, however, is strongly disputed by USAF sources flying the F-22. "It sounds as though we have very different recollections as to the outcomes of the BFM engagements that were fought," one Raptor pilot says.
USAF sources say that the Typhoon has good energy and a pretty good first turn, but that they were able to outmanoeuvre the Germans due to the Raptor's thrust vectoring. Additionally, the Typhoon was not able to match the high angle of attack capability of the F-22. "We ended up with numerous gunshots," another USAF pilot says.