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The Coming Trials: What Happens Next?

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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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Im sorry NorEaster. im just a guy who stands up for myself and others. hopefully you can respect this. thanks and sorry.




posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by RadioHawken

Originally posted by NorEaster

Originally posted by RadioHawken
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(22.1) 1:0.4 This magnificent and universal injunction to strive for the attainment of the perfection of divinity is the first duty, and should be the highest ambition, of all the struggling creature creation of the God of perfection. This possibility of the attainment of divine perfection is the final and certain destiny of all man’s eternal spiritual progress

(22.3) 1:0.6 This is the true meaning of that divine command, “Be you perfect, even as I am perfect,”

i'll keep reading but is is your answer to mans destiny journey. in urantia
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This stuff doesn't answer any of the questions I posed. I didn't even notice you'd tried to take them on, but now that I do know, I can see that your spirit handlers are no better than his are. If you had God on the line, or any of the in-the-know "celestial creatures guiding you, they'd have made sure that I wasn't able to stump you on what should be extremely simple existential staples that - to be fair, here - you can't Google and find the answers to.

Trust me when I tell you that - yes - this is inside information that your sources should have known if they were inside sources. So either they're idiots they're liars. Take your pick.

Can you please stop it at this message. I dont know if I have any deities/spirits. but heck if I did know dang right I would ask them to tell you whats up.
Sir im 30 ive been a believer in the gospels and follow the lines of the gentiles with a (jewish) heart.
But the thing is like I said I am open minded and in honest I dont want to know what your beliefs are. because I know my spirit has to be grander.
and it was question 3. whats the sole purpose of man..i gave you the def i found in the book and then i gave you the common sense answer. thats all
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I don't want you to believe what I believe. I just don't want anyone following a fraud.

Question 3 was "What is the true physical "role" of the actual being that Earth's humanity has termed with the English language word "Man" That's a very different question altogether. I just answered these questions for you, and I did so because I respect your request that I answer them. If I were trying to troll this thread, I would not have taken the time and effort to create those very specific and pointed questions, and I sure as hell would not have taken this time to address your concerns. That, I hope, will become apparent after you've read this post, and gotten a better understanding about my own motivations concerning anyone who comes here and speaks with authority concerning what you and others need to believe about yourselves.

I have no problem with messengers, but I reserve the right to challenge them with very specific information if they persist in trying to establish themselves as divinely directed. This - in my own understanding - is how one serves as a responsible member of any community. If I can completely baffle a divinely directed messenger, and with only 4 very simple questions (that can't be Googled) then what does that say about the divinity of the directing intelligence? I'd say that it says a lot.

Love the god that speaks to your heart, and you'll be fine. Just never let anyone lead you to violate your own sensibilities in exchange for either salvation or enlightenment. The truth is so different than what you've been taught that you'll never embrace it, and there's no actual need for you to embrace it or even understand it. Just by thinking and living you're serving your end of the process wonderfully.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by RadioHawken
Im sorry NorEaster. im just a guy who stands up for myself and others. hopefully you can respect this. thanks and sorry.


You're perfect just as you are, and I appreciate the respect. Thank you.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:34 PM
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He has a point. If this was above, they would be able to answer the questions as it stands. Above will already know of the intent, because the thoughts are recorded in the books of man.

Even if the answer was different (language barrier, him not asking in the right way, etc.) they would still be able to give the answer he desires, because the answer is already in his head, and they could relay it to them.

The problem with dealing with spirits, is that you have above and below, and the in between. The only full proof method for clear communication is to be brought above, so there are no distractions.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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tell me please are they people that have someone or something that types on the keyboard. like a cyborg or robot. Honestly I dont know how to channel spirits.
trust me that with his replies to my concern he hits them on a nail and i read between the lines. maybe thats a fault of mine. idk.
but also maybe my life experiences are telling me to delve into this, not head first but with an open mind. I know a lot of realigions. mainly all that are older than me, new age is one i dont know if thats even the correct term. I m sorry. and I really hope he writes back to my comments thats what I want.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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ps reread your post. so you mean halls of amenti and angles and curves and the above. from the emerald tablet. and theres people that are locked in this form of life and not autobots. they and you guys are luckier than me ive been dubbed a schizophrenic for ten years and the government injects me with poison.


whose the above. i read pages 1 and 2 of urantia this morning. and have never heard of it. but in my life ive have had angels come and go from me. if you read my posts i seperate his and mine to find a better understanding.

one time in april of 2010 I was connected by a female angel vial scripting pen and finger. honestly 2 days later unidentified lights of multitudes in the sky. I cant baffle aliens but maybe multiple worlds. its a latter of parallel universes imo.
if you wanted to check his sources ask him how manotia read my lines even if he doesnt know what he wrote.

yea im new got in my first online fight ever and feel stupid, but i know you on the other end is as real as i am.

Im sorry again

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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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whose the above. i read pages 1 and 2 of urantia this morning. and have never heard of it. but in my life ive have had angels come and go from me. if you read my posts i seperate his and mine to find a better understanding.


Above is all of the angels, Father, the Son, and all.



one time in april of 2010 I was connected by a female angel vial scripting pen and finger. honestly 2 days later unidentified lights of multitudes in the sky. I cant baffle aliens but maybe multiple worlds. its a latter of parallel universes imo. if you wanted to check his sources ask him how manotia read my lines even if he doesnt know what he wrote.


This is because you were not speaking to above at this time. The same spirit who is feeding them the information, is the same one that you channeled at that time. This is how it is known.



yea im new got in my first online fight ever and feel stupid, but i know you on the other end is as real as i am.


Do not apologize, everything is to be learned, you grow, and you move on.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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ps reread your post. so you mean halls of amenti and angles and curves and the above. from the emerald tablet. and theres people that are locked in this form of life and not autobots. they and you guys are luckier than me ive been dubbed a schizophrenic for ten years and the government injects me with poison.


If I didn't re-read your post, I would have not known it was here, it would be easier, to reply to the latest post.

I do not know of that in which you speak, I know of above in its current state. If you are getting this description from a book or another source, I am not aware of it. Would you mind elaborating?



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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so all in all im making a spiritual connection with another person via two spirits his mine and they feed to a spirit above. maybe i do need to read the book.
honest i havent read your username but thank you. i also made some changes to the post above. just a month ago i read the emerald tablets of thoth. at same time i saw vids on GFOL and now i connected with a channeler. and noreaster wanted aronolacs spirit and his deity to read his mind. how the ef can that work seriously. its break common low. if i can put it in words i would.
its like knowingly and unknowly. if noreaster if i sp that right asks him to intercept his mind to find these answers unknowly noreasters gonna block reception period whether he wishes it so or not. thats understandable. if i ask you to read my mind etc boom i automatically block. idk never new this before



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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so all in all im making a spiritual connection with another person via two spirits his mine and they feed to a spirit above. maybe i do need to read the book.


No. This is not done by above, this is done by below. Take what you said and change above to below, then it is correct.



and noreaster wanted aronolacs spirit and his deity to read his mind. how the ef can that work seriously. its break common low. if i can put it in words i would.


Below cannot do this, but above can. There are two ways this can be done.
1) Read his individual book. The book holds (thoughts, tasks, and records all what has happened and about the person.
2) Speak to his spirit to know the answer.



if i ask you to read my mind etc boom i automatically block. idk never new this before


You can block from other spirits, but it will always be recorded in your book.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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I found a book on the internet called the emerald tablets of amenti, its the halls below our earth level that holds the sacred flower and where the lord of nine and the lords of seven exist. It was supposedly wirtten by an atlantian who lived a long time and became the first pharoah of egypt and pharoahs afterwards followed in the story of his afterlife dubbed halls of amenti. This book is also known as the emerald tablet of hermes "something" and then thoth became dubbed as hermes. the book was followed by early catholics and christians till it was found insacred.

thats all i know less you want to know what connections i can think of with todays religion.

PS SOme reason i like you too. why. its not what your saying but maybe its what your saying


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posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by RadioHawken
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tell me please are they people that have someone or something that types on the keyboard. like a cyborg or robot. Honestly I dont know how to channel spirits.
trust me that with his replies to my concern he hits them on a nail and i read between the lines. maybe thats a fault of mine. idk.
but also maybe my life experiences are telling me to delve into this, not head first but with an open mind. I know a lot of realigions. mainly all that are older than me, new age is one i dont know if thats even the correct term. I m sorry. and I really hope he writes back to my comments thats what I want.


I have no idea if the OP is actually logged into some network of corporeal or post-corporeal people or if he's just Googling stuff that people ask him and answering those people with information that's already out there if you know where t find it. All I know is that he was not able to answer my questions, and while I did answer the one word answer question (#1) with a one word answer, for your benefit I expounded on that answer (which I would not have required of him if he'd provided the one word answer).

My information is not available out there on the Internet, and I've spent the last 3 years (almost) on this board battling with whoever is willing to take it on, to gather evidence and proof that what I have as information is accurate. Where it came from is still a bit of a question, but I'm assuming that it is the effort of one or more post-corporeal human beings, and that I'm only one of many who are getting tagged with this stuff (and probably have been for quite a long time). I'm always amazed that I have yet to find the others who have had this information suddenly wake them up in the middle of the night, or flood their minds while they're in the shower, but I have confidence that either I'll find them or they'll find me if stay out here with it long enough.

What I can tell you is that as long as you don't surrender your autonomy to anyone or anything, then you cannot lose regardless of what it is that you believe. The greatest danger that exists for any person is a strident expectation as that person slides from this realm to the next. That expectation can (and will) be leveraged by others and generally against the true believer in most cases.

Nothing can hurt you, destroy you, or confine you, and if you embrace that fact, then you're free to examine every possible expression of devotion that exists. And, as far as I'm concerned, if a devotion makes a person happy, then it's good.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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Thank you for your response. I have to admit to a high degree of skepticism concerning a lot of what I have read in this thread, but your response was one of those things that make you go "hmmm."

You had no way of knowing it, but my house was built in the 1940's, during WWII. It's in the oldest part of town, the part originally settled. Where it gets interesting is that it was built on the ruins of an older house. The foundations can still be seen in the back yard, and occasionally trinkets from the former house work themselves to the surface. Bits of broken crockery and the like.

And charcoal. The older house burnt down. I've been told elsewhere that these things I only get fleeting glimpses of include an older black man and woman, a married couple.

So that, among other things in your response, make me go "hmmm..." I'll be keeping a closer eye.

Again, thanks for your response.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 04:54 AM
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Dear Aronolac,

Thank you for your advise, It isn't taken likely as a lot of it resonates with me but i need to ask you for some more information.
I appreciate that you have many posts to reply too and the length you have given me so far.

I need to know the severity of health and body? You say that you see a problem relating to the heart? Is this something i should get a diagnosis for? Can you please tell me who my Guardian angel is? or what other spirits are around me? Have these spirits tried talking to me via mobile phone before? Can you Ask them to relay the most important information that i should know right now? and lastly you say that you cannot see my heart center? can any other entitys see it?

There are many questions here but i only ask because you have surprised me with what has been said and peeked my interest ten fold.

your insight is appreciated .



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 05:09 AM
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I hope he comes back. I hope I wasnt appalling to him. Heck I was even confused with being a channeler. i dont take that as an insult. If i am a channeler I want to learn what it takes to comprehend being one. I actually found a board that listens and no one will judge what i say there, which is thankful and a relief.

thanks again aronolac and hope you come back to finish your work on your thread.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Indigo2
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Dear Aronolac,

Thank you for your advise, It isn't taken likely as a lot of it resonates with me but i need to ask you for some more information.
I appreciate that you have many posts to reply too and the length you have given me so far.

I need to know the severity of health and body? You say that you see a problem relating to the heart? Is this something i should get a diagnosis for? Can you please tell me who my Guardian angel is? or what other spirits are around me? Have these spirits tried talking to me via mobile phone before? Can you Ask them to relay the most important information that i should know right now? and lastly you say that you cannot see my heart center? can any other entitys see it?

There are many questions here but i only ask because you have surprised me with what has been said and peeked my interest ten fold.

your insight is appreciated .



To anyone reading this thread....

This is the thing that upsets me about "mystics" and other transcendental whatevers that show up here and start making claims that they are messengers of God or connected to "masters" with insight into unknowable truths. The OP has at least two people waiting on his return with what they believe to be life-altering wisdom that only he can provide for them. And this is the result of just a few posts on a thread in this forum where he indulged them a little with vague statements.

This metaphysics subject is extremely powerful stuff for a lot of people, and for every one of these posters, there are likely 20-40 lurkers who are just as affected. Playing fast and loose with enormous questions can seem like a lot of good clean fun, but with this being 2012, the tension is amped right to the extreme for a hell of a lot of people who log onto sites like these in search of answers to questions like "Am I going to die this year?" and "Will there even be a next year at all?". And if you're tossing out irresponsible claims, you're fueling the fire that's burning inside their heads. And what happens when December 23's sun splits the morning sky? And you all know that it will - at least those of you who have actually taken the time and effort to research all of this. Will it bother you that you aided someone who was vulnerable to your assertions in the brutal crash that they'll suffer as a result of (who knows how they'll see it) being unchosen, not transcended, hoodwinked, or however many way one can experience such a core letdown.

People ask me why I'm such a bitch over these kinds of threads, but I'm right next to two posts here that really illustrate why I'm such a bitch about these kinds of threads. Reality is tough enough to deal with. Life is not an illusion. It's one step in front of the other, and moving toward whatever it is that is yet to come. And that's what it is. Claims to the contrary are made as the claimant is placing one foot in front of the other and moving toward whatever it is that is yet to come, and that's just how it is regardless of the poetry being used to deny it.

If the whole world was educated and aware of everything that was fundamental to being existent and alive, then the fun of speculation would be wonderful. And if speculation was presented as speculation, then being ignorant of the tenets of reality would not be such a vulnerability. But it's like the Wild West out here on the Internet, and the stuff that will thrill you is the same stuff that can send you right into a ditch for the foreseeable future, if you don't have the informational foundation to check the craziness and see it for what it is.

I'd love to see the OP of this thread come back and give some of these folks what they seem to urgently need from him. I seriously doubt that he will or that he can. He couldn't make heads or tails of what should have been clear as glass to him if he actually has the sources he claims to have, but that fact aside, I wouldn't be surprised if he muddles his way out of where this thread has gone and bows out of it altogether.

These are scary times for a lot of people. I wish that more folks would be sensitive to that fact.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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Originally posted by RadioHawken
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I hope he comes back. I hope I wasnt appalling to him. Heck I was even confused with being a channeler. i dont take that as an insult. If i am a channeler I want to learn what it takes to comprehend being one. I actually found a board that listens and no one will judge what i say there, which is thankful and a relief.

thanks again aronolac and hope you come back to finish your work on your thread.


You weren't appalling to anyone. Really. The material realm is an amazingly dynamic and complicated slice of reality, and there's no one who has a full grasp of it to any extent whatsoever. We're all trying to find a handhold and a foothold as we search our way from instant to instant. You're doing just fine, and are at least curious about what surrounds you. That's miles beyond the average person on this planet, and yes, you have found a site where you can express yourself fully without being isolated in judgement.

This place can be rough but it's rough in a tough-love kind of manner, so please feel welcome to learn what the folks here can teach you. And teach what the rest of us can learn from you. No one has the ultimate truth here, and we learn from each others' experiences of life. I'm sorry if I seemed to come at you initially with aggression, but it wasn't you that I was focused on. It can often be hard to tell on a forum like this exactly who one poster is targeting with their reply.

I hope you have a long run of good experiences here.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 12:29 PM
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Aronolac, what a beautiful heart you must have to be given this gift of contact from such beings. I secretly wish it for myself, but in truth, it would probably terrify me. To that end, if you would be so gracious– please inquire of your spirit guides to assist my quest for spiritual wellbeing. Personally, I’m a pretty happy person and I believe there is good in most people. Dreams have always been fantastic and I am oftentimes watching as in a movie shown before me – from beginning to end.

As with many here on this thread, I too believe we are soon to be made aware of our part and parcel, be it good or sad. I want to be a part of it and play my role as I came here to do. I would like guidance in this area as well.

I am also curious as to what the Bible states that only through His Son Jesus are persons able to enter Heaven. Personally, I have a bit of trouble with that statement as millions of millions of people living now and many who lived over the millennia never even heard of Jesus.

Finally, will it be finally shown or proven soon through new or old discoveries that we are an old, old earth with many highly evolved civilizations having been here prior to the most recent?

If you are unable to personally address my questions I understand, and, I wish you joy, love, and bliss.

Puss



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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This is a 4th dimensional shadow of your True-self the answer to most everyones question of search and answers to the questions each have . Are answered by YOUR true self… and all the Clues come from your cosmic/spiritual self that is connected to all that IS.



posted on Jul, 10 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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Dear One,

You write:

Aronolac, what a beautiful heart you must have to be given this gift of contact from such beings. I secretly wish it for myself, but in truth, it would probably terrify me. To that end, if you would be so gracious– please inquire of your spirit guides to assist my quest for spiritual wellbeing. Personally, I’m a pretty happy person and I believe there is good in most people. Dreams have always been fantastic and I am oftentimes watching as in a movie shown before me – from beginning to end.

Answer: You surely must know what it sounds like to hear your thinking voice as you work out a problem with yourself? When spirit becomes part of the inner wakefulness that is the voice he uses. Instead of you doing the thinking, spirit does the thinking and speaking. You would get used to it in a hurry because it is so natural. This is not trance and it is not channel, but it is total awareness of everything around me and I hear the gentle voices of spirit provide answers to those who can not yet hear this way.

Puss: As with many here on this thread, I too believe we are soon to be made aware of our part and parcel, be it good or sad. I want to be a part of it and play my role as I came here to do. I would like guidance in this area as well.

I am also curious as to what the Bible states that only through His Son Jesus are persons able to enter Heaven. Personally, I have a bit of trouble with that statement as millions of millions of people living now and many who lived over the millennia never even heard of Jesus.

Answer: The answer is simple. Jesus is the Creator Son through whom this entire area of space was dedicated to and which he built with is own powers to manipulate material energy. With the Creator Son resides the Creative Spirit, the feminine version of Deity, and together they created much of the life, including the human pattern we individually fill. The universe is set up to provide humans a career, an eternal life of service, and the Creator Son sponsors each of us to reach graduation from this area of space, to the grand worlds of true spirit life beyond the boundaries of this galaxy. Christianity only knows Jesus and so that is how it is expressed in their scripture. In this, for persons on this world, it is literally true all must go through the Creator Son to gain their credentials to the higher spheres of existence. But you question a deeper meaning perhaps by asking is it not true that as long as God ordains that man shall rise to glory that it is the privilege of his sponsoring Sons to help those who ascend? Yes, of course. Other religions use other names for the divine sponsorship, and in that sense they are all correct.

Christianity as well as all other major religions on this planet are about to experience a tremendous enlightenment that shall forever change their limited views of the divine cosmologies at work on our planet. And this will happen, not because theologists will volunteer to do it, but because events will make it obvious they have to.


Puss: Finally, will it be finally shown or proven soon through new or old discoveries that we are an old, old earth with many highly evolved civilizations having been here prior to the most recent?

Answer: Yes. And this part of the universe is far older than science would have you think. Humanity inhabited this planet just a tad less than one million years ago. High civilizations were already in place 100,000 years ago at Dilmun until it and those that followed were destroyed by a fierce rebellion that isolated our planet for 200,000 years. The coming Magisterial Mission will teach how to sustain civilizations in order to prevent endless cycle repetition of losing our history and the wisdom of what we learned to build those that even failed.

Puss:If you are unable to personally address my questions I understand, and, I wish you joy, love, and bliss.

Answer: you work will be in the area of thought processing (author? teacher?) for the new administration about to appear on the planet they will rename as Urantia. Your work deals with the supernal realities of thinking and doing which you are so very good at doing. If you only know how well you prepare your lessons and think through your lectures, you would not doubt these words.

Thank you.



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