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When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”
Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
Don't waste your time telling me to get over it.
As she discovered, the “042″ number is reserved for the exclusive use of individuals who register in Connecticut
SSN Prefix Issuing State
001-003 New Hampshire
004-007 Maine
008-009 Vermont
010-034 Massachusetts
035-039 Rhode Island
040-049 Connecticut
050-134 New York
135-158 New Jersey
159-211 Pennsylvania
is posted it shows that she has no clue at all what she is babbling about!
Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
I do know that people can (legally) have their SS number changed...perhaps this is what President Obama did.
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Originally posted by caladonea
reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
I do know that people can (legally) have their SS number changed...perhaps this is what President Obama did.
There is a difference between "legally changed" and "forged". To fraudulently become POTUS for someone who normally cannot be POTUS because of birthplace issues, "legally changed" just won't do. Only "forged" works in that case- until an investigative group like Arpaio's posse get hot on the trail, that is.edit on Thu Jul 5th 2012 by TrueAmerican because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by emberscott
reply to post by Syyth007
The social security chart says it sometimes moves blocks of numbers from state to state. Here is the official chart.
When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”
Area numbers - The first three numbers originally represented the state in which a person first applied for a social security card. Numbers started in the northeast and moved westward. This meant that people on the east coast had the lowest numbers and those on the west coast had the highest. Since 1972, the Social Security Administration (SSA) has assigned numbers and issued cards based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the original application form.
Since the applicant's mailing address doesn't have to be the same as his residence, his area number doesn't necessarily represent the state in which he resides. For many of us who received our SSNs as infants, the area number indicates the state we were born in.
Group numbers - These two middle digits, which range from 01 through 99, are simply used to break all the SSNs with the same area number into smaller blocks to make administration easier. (The SSA says that, for administrative reasons, group numbers issued first consist of the odd numbers from 01 through 09, and then even numbers from 10 through 98, within each area number assigned to a state. After all the numbers in group 98 of a specific area have been issued, the even groups 02 through 08 are used, followed by odd groups 11 through 99.)
Serial numbers - Within each group designation, serial numbers -- the last four digits in an SSN -- run consecutively from 0001 through 9999.
According to the SSA, the numbers are not recycled. Upon an individual's death, the number is removed from the active files and is not reused. Recycling numbers might become an issue someday, but not any time soon -- statisticians say that the nine-digit SSN allows for approximately one billion possible combinations!
Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.” This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate. “They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”
Originally posted by imitator
This is too transparent to me as being staged....
seventy year old private investigator
Come on people this a smoke screen, your being played.... Obama is playing you guys like a fiddle. It's a staged event to show that Obama SSN is legit.... the secret government has had enough time to fix Obama SSN to make him look legit. To think a 70yr old is on his trail is laughable!!!
edit on 5-7-2012 by imitator because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
For all the apologists on here, all that has to be done is for the Social Security administration to release untampered original documentation of Obama's application to be issued an SSN.
I was born the same year as he was, and got my SSN in 1977 in order to start working at age 16. The prefix I have is for California. My parents, who were immigrants, also have the Cali prefix on theirs, as it was their state of residence when they were naturalized.
Social Security numbers are NOT recycled! Note:
Area numbers - The first three numbers originally represented the state in which a person first applied for a social security card. Numbers started in the northeast and moved westward. This meant that people on the east coast had the lowest numbers and those on the west coast had the highest. Since 1972, the Social Security Administration (SSA) has assigned numbers and issued cards based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the original application form.
Since the applicant's mailing address doesn't have to be the same as his residence, his area number doesn't necessarily represent the state in which he resides. For many of us who received our SSNs as infants, the area number indicates the state we were born in.
Group numbers - These two middle digits, which range from 01 through 99, are simply used to break all the SSNs with the same area number into smaller blocks to make administration easier. (The SSA says that, for administrative reasons, group numbers issued first consist of the odd numbers from 01 through 09, and then even numbers from 10 through 98, within each area number assigned to a state. After all the numbers in group 98 of a specific area have been issued, the even groups 02 through 08 are used, followed by odd groups 11 through 99.)
Serial numbers - Within each group designation, serial numbers -- the last four digits in an SSN -- run consecutively from 0001 through 9999.
Note that the SSN number is based on the state you were born in, if you are an American and got it as a child. Otherwise it is based on residency.
According to the SSA, the numbers are not recycled. Upon an individual's death, the number is removed from the active files and is not reused. Recycling numbers might become an issue someday, but not any time soon -- statisticians say that the nine-digit SSN allows for approximately one billion possible combinations!
people.howstuffworks.com...
Since Obama was not born in Connecticut, and the original SSN was used by a gentleman born in 1890, there is no other conclusion other than this number was obtained fraudulently.
I used to work in welfare in the 1990s in California, and SSNs often had several individuals attached to it, unbeknownst to the Social Security Administration. These numbers were used by illegals.
To the poster who said that his SSN was from Puerto Rico, I can only say that perhaps your folks obtained it fraudulently for you for whatever reason.....or it is a vague possibility that the data entry clerk typed in the incorrect code for the state of birth.
Obama's first use of this CT SSN was in 1980, used on his selective service application.
Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.” This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate. “They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”
www.freerepublic.com...
In any case, I am inclined to agree that Obama has a lot of explaining to do. Let's see the original documentation, so this thing can be put to rest.edit on 5-7-2012 by FissionSurplus because: Clarification
Originally posted by flyswatter
Originally posted by FissionSurplus
For all the apologists on here, all that has to be done is for the Social Security administration to release untampered original documentation of Obama's application to be issued an SSN.
I was born the same year as he was, and got my SSN in 1977 in order to start working at age 16. The prefix I have is for California. My parents, who were immigrants, also have the Cali prefix on theirs, as it was their state of residence when they were naturalized.
Social Security numbers are NOT recycled! Note:
Area numbers - The first three numbers originally represented the state in which a person first applied for a social security card. Numbers started in the northeast and moved westward. This meant that people on the east coast had the lowest numbers and those on the west coast had the highest. Since 1972, the Social Security Administration (SSA) has assigned numbers and issued cards based on the ZIP code in the mailing address provided on the original application form.
Since the applicant's mailing address doesn't have to be the same as his residence, his area number doesn't necessarily represent the state in which he resides. For many of us who received our SSNs as infants, the area number indicates the state we were born in.
Group numbers - These two middle digits, which range from 01 through 99, are simply used to break all the SSNs with the same area number into smaller blocks to make administration easier. (The SSA says that, for administrative reasons, group numbers issued first consist of the odd numbers from 01 through 09, and then even numbers from 10 through 98, within each area number assigned to a state. After all the numbers in group 98 of a specific area have been issued, the even groups 02 through 08 are used, followed by odd groups 11 through 99.)
Serial numbers - Within each group designation, serial numbers -- the last four digits in an SSN -- run consecutively from 0001 through 9999.
Note that the SSN number is based on the state you were born in, if you are an American and got it as a child. Otherwise it is based on residency.
According to the SSA, the numbers are not recycled. Upon an individual's death, the number is removed from the active files and is not reused. Recycling numbers might become an issue someday, but not any time soon -- statisticians say that the nine-digit SSN allows for approximately one billion possible combinations!
people.howstuffworks.com...
Since Obama was not born in Connecticut, and the original SSN was used by a gentleman born in 1890, there is no other conclusion other than this number was obtained fraudulently.
I used to work in welfare in the 1990s in California, and SSNs often had several individuals attached to it, unbeknownst to the Social Security Administration. These numbers were used by illegals.
To the poster who said that his SSN was from Puerto Rico, I can only say that perhaps your folks obtained it fraudulently for you for whatever reason.....or it is a vague possibility that the data entry clerk typed in the incorrect code for the state of birth.
Obama's first use of this CT SSN was in 1980, used on his selective service application.
Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.” This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate. “They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”
www.freerepublic.com...
In any case, I am inclined to agree that Obama has a lot of explaining to do. Let's see the original documentation, so this thing can be put to rest.edit on 5-7-2012 by FissionSurplus because: Clarification
I am American
I got my SSN as a child
I was born in California
My SSN prefix is from Alaska
This whole "wrong prefix" thing has been debunked and explained more than once. If this old lady is going to jump on Obama about his SSN, she needs to find something better than "OH NO, WRONG PREFIX!" as a crutch.
Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
A seventy year old private investigator who is quite experienced in vetting social security numbers is going after Obama for using a fraudulent one. Good story.
When she ran 10 sequential numbers before and after Obama’s, all returned with the documentation “issued 1977-1979 in CT.”
Don't waste your time telling me to get over it.
Ohio private investigator Susan Daniels..
According to Susan Daniels, of Daniels and Associates Investigations, Inc. in Chardon Ohio, when searching through database aggregators such as IRB, it is common to find a subject referenced with two or three Social Security Numbers (SSN). Here are some of the reasons a person may show-up with multiple SSN’s:
•a wife’s or child’s SSN could end up with father’s name
•a parent’s SSN could show up with a child
•the subject bought something with someone else and the SSNs could end up with each other’s name
•the database producer is relating several SSN’s to one address
•an error by whoever entered the data
Susan Daniels of Daniels and Associates Investigations, Inc. (9754 Thwing Road Chardon, OH 44024, Tel.:440.286.4072) has been a Private Investigator for 15 years.