U.S. Army Builds Artificial Island

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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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The U.S. Armed Forces have increased the area of ​​their country by 460 hectares. However, it does not go about the conquest of a territory during an armed conflict. The U.S. Corps of Engineers summed up the first results of a unique project to restore the land and deepen the seafloor in the Chesapeake Bay. Internet users monitored the progress of the work and suspected the presence of some insidious plans that the U.S. government harbors

english.pravda.ru...


As increasingly the case, this Pravda article appears as though it was translated from Russian to English with the help of Google Translate. I'm unclear what the "secret military facility" that is referenced here but found it interesting, nonetheless.




posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:20 AM
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I typically don't give any attention to Pravda, as it is usually associated with Sorcha Faal, but this article looked legit, so I googled Poplar Island, and it appears the Army Corps of Engineers is indeed rebuilding the island with a potential completion date of 2027.

Wiki on Poplar Island in Chesapeake Bay.

Doesn't really seem like much of a story though?


Restoration with dredged material
Rebuilding Poplar Island.ogv
Rebuilding Poplar Island.

Federal and state officials selected Poplar Island as dumping site for material dredged from Baltimore's shipping channels in the 1990s. This would allow restoration of the island while halting the earlier practice of open water dumping. Reconstruction of the island began in 1998 with the erection of dikes to contain the dredged material.[1][4]

Hart Miller Island, another badly eroded island in the Chesapeake Bay, received dredged material over a 25 year period. By 2009, this island had been restored to 1,100 acres of wildlife habitat and recreation land.[5]

Dredged material from shipping channels in the Chesapeake Bay may also be used to restore James Island, as part of the Mid-Bay Island Restoration Project. James Island, located at the mouth of the Little Choptank River, had eroded to three tiny fragments. The projects plans call for adding 2,000 acres to James Island with dredged material to restore the island to its historic footprint. However, work on James Island depends upon the project's inclusion in federal grants for the Water Resources Development Act; funding had not yet been approved as of March 2011.[5]
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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It's just reclaimed land. Nothing at all new or interesting.

Unless it's new to you, then it's super interesting. Did you know that a quarter of the buildings in Hong Kong are build on reclaimed land? That Battery Park City in New York used to be under the Hudson. That in the Netherlands, they made an artificial island that's 375 square miles!

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Uncinus
It's just reclaimed land. Nothing at all new or interesting.

Unless it's new to you, then it's super interesting. Did you know that a quarter of the buildings in Hong Kong are build on reclaimed land? That Battery Park City in New York used to be under the Hudson. That in the Netherlands, they made an artificial island that's 375 square miles!

en.wikipedia.org...


that is super interesting

+1



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 09:14 PM
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It seems like some people on the internet felt like maybe potholes in roads should be fixed before island and wetland reclamation. Also some thought it was taking too long. Some others thought maybe a secret installation of sorts but there doesn't seem to be even a whisper of evidence for that.

Why is The Army Building an Island in the Chesapeake Bay...For the Last 14 years?

This wasn't mentioned but it could also just be a simple way of reclaiming shoreline or creating a storm break without having to go through all the politically correct rhetoric i.e. is it ok to even claim the shoreline is receding or is it ok to even claim there might be a storm surge. If you put it under the heading of reclaiming bird habitat, you don't have to argue about whether the climate is warming or the ocean encroaching.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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Seems it's hitting mainstream media..

www.mandatory.com...=1%3Ficid



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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It's not exactly secret. The Army Corps of Engineers has to dredge the Bay's navigational channels. They have to put the mud somewhere, so they kill two birds with one stone

www.nab.usace.army.mil...


In 1994, an interagency group, including the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the Maryland Port Administration, and Federal and State environmental agencies studied the feasibility of using Poplar Island as a beneficial use project for dredged material from the Chesapeake Bay navigation channels leading to the Port of Baltimore. Following the necessary environmental studies, it was determined that rebuilding Poplar Island and restoring over 1,000 acres of diverse habitat was a viable beneficial use of dredged material.



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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Kansai International Airport in Japan is built on a manmade island. It has the longest train track and bridge leading to it. It's a very advanced airport, and went through a major earthquake in the Osaka area, with 7 cracked windows.


www.kiac.co.jp...



posted on Jul, 6 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Uncinus
It's not exactly secret. The Army Corps of Engineers has to dredge the Bay's navigational channels. They have to put the mud somewhere, so they kill two birds with one stone

www.nab.usace.army.mil...


In 1994, an interagency group, including the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the Maryland Port Administration, and Federal and State environmental agencies studied the feasibility of using Poplar Island as a beneficial use project for dredged material from the Chesapeake Bay navigation channels leading to the Port of Baltimore. Following the necessary environmental studies, it was determined that rebuilding Poplar Island and restoring over 1,000 acres of diverse habitat was a viable beneficial use of dredged material.



no, I'm pretty sure it was something to do with aliens





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posted on Jul, 8 2012 @ 11:07 PM
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does this have anything to do with chemtrails or geoengineering??




posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
does this have anything to do with chemtrails or geoengineering??



chemtrails - no
geoengineering - yes



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 04:45 AM
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So land reclamation is geoengineering now??

I guess that takes the time frame back a few thousand years then - Egyptians were doing it 4000 years ago, and plenty of modern examples exist too

Of course it also actually does not fit the definition of geo-engineering - not even from activists opposed to it::



Geoengineering
Geoengineering is the artificial modification of Earths climate systems through two primary ideologies, Solar Radiation Management (SRM) and Carbon Dioxide Removal (CDR)


Perhaps you could tell us all how reclamation artificially modifies the Earth's climate systems??

(I also note that SRM and CDR are actually technologies, not ideologies.....but let's not quibble
)



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
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So land reclamation is geoengineering now??


Land reclamation has always been geoengineering.

geoengineering: to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment)
dictionary.reference.com...

LMK if you need help learning other words.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Castillo

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by Castillo
 


So land reclamation is geoengineering now??


Land reclamation has always been geoengineering.

geoengineering: to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment)
dictionary.reference.com...

LMK if you need help learning other words.


You could probably add a vast amount of things to geoenginering then - like mining, freeways, aquaducts, beach restoration, dams, and even just urban sprawl.

Nowadays people usually mean some kind of climate engineering when talking about geoenginering. This type of large land reclamation might better be classified as Macro-engineering. But really it's nothing that special.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by Castillo

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by Castillo
 


So land reclamation is geoengineering now??


Land reclamation has always been geoengineering.

geoengineering: to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment)
dictionary.reference.com...

LMK if you need help learning other words.


You could probably add a vast amount of things to geoenginering then - like mining, freeways, aquaducts, beach restoration, dams, and even just urban sprawl.

Nowadays people usually mean some kind of climate engineering when talking about geoenginering. This type of large land reclamation might better be classified as Macro-engineering. But really it's nothing that special.



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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Nowadays people usually mean some kind of climate engineering when talking about geoenginering.


"people" is not a synonym for "I"

thanks



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Castillo

Nowadays people usually mean some kind of climate engineering when talking about geoenginering.


"people" is not a synonym for "I"

thanks


No, it means people in general, or most people. You should have included the full definition from your link:


to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment), especially to counteract global warming: Pulling carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere is one way to geoengineer the planet.


The OED entry explains this shift in usage over time:


geoengineering

The application of large-scale engineering methods to modify rock formations or other features of the natural environment; (in later use esp.) the modification of the global environment or the climate in order to counter or ameliorate climate change.

1962 New Mexican (Santa Fe, New Mexico) 16 Feb. 9/3 The 30 graduate geologists currently employed by the department, either as materials testers or as central research laboratory workers handling geo-engineering assignments.
1969 Sci. News 95 159/1 Teller..urged that Australia act as a proving ground for nuclear geoengineering.
1976 C. Marchetti Geoengineering & CO₂ Probl. p. iii, Geoengineering..is a kind of ‘system synthesis’ where solutions to global problems are attempted from a global view.
1983 T. Hoyle Last Gasp iv. 51 The Russians are keen to find out everything they can about what affects the climate because of their grandiose geoengineering schemes.
1994 Guardian 17 Mar. 94 The market can supply appropriate geo-engineering—for example, companies launching mirrors into space to deflect sunlight.
2007 Nature 10 May 115/2 Geoengineering..explores in what circumstances aspects of the climate system might be deliberately modified to limit the worst eventualities of climate change.


Where I say "nowadays people usually mean ..." the OED says "in later use esp. ...". Same thing.

The " nuclear geoengineering" mentioned there is pretty interesting. Edward Teller wanted to use nuclear bombs to create new mountain ranges in Australia to alter rainfall patterns. There were many such schemes:




posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Uncinus

Originally posted by Castillo

Nowadays people usually mean some kind of climate engineering when talking about geoenginering.


"people" is not a synonym for "I"

thanks


No, it means people in general, or most people. You should have included the full definition from your link:


to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment), especially to counteract global warming: Pulling carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere is one way to geoengineer the planet.


The OED entry explains this shift in usage over time:


geoengineering

The application of large-scale engineering methods to modify rock formations or other features of the natural environment; (in later use esp.) the modification of the global environment or the climate in order to counter or ameliorate climate change.

1962 New Mexican (Santa Fe, New Mexico) 16 Feb. 9/3 The 30 graduate geologists currently employed by the department, either as materials testers or as central research laboratory workers handling geo-engineering assignments.
1969 Sci. News 95 159/1 Teller..urged that Australia act as a proving ground for nuclear geoengineering.
1976 C. Marchetti Geoengineering & CO₂ Probl. p. iii, Geoengineering..is a kind of ‘system synthesis’ where solutions to global problems are attempted from a global view.
1983 T. Hoyle Last Gasp iv. 51 The Russians are keen to find out everything they can about what affects the climate because of their grandiose geoengineering schemes.
1994 Guardian 17 Mar. 94 The market can supply appropriate geo-engineering—for example, companies launching mirrors into space to deflect sunlight.
2007 Nature 10 May 115/2 Geoengineering..explores in what circumstances aspects of the climate system might be deliberately modified to limit the worst eventualities of climate change.


Where I say "nowadays people usually mean ..." the OED says "in later use esp. ...". Same thing.

The " nuclear geoengineering" mentioned there is pretty interesting. Edward Teller wanted to use nuclear bombs to create new mountain ranges in Australia to alter rainfall patterns. There were many such schemes:



again, "people" is not a synonym for "I"

thanks



posted on Jul, 9 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by Castillo

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
reply to post by Castillo
 


So land reclamation is geoengineering now??


Land reclamation has always been geoengineering.

geoengineering: to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment)
dictionary.reference.com...

LMK if you need help learning other words.


You did not actually quote the entire definition - that's not very honest of you - but then quote mining is a common "tactic" among those trying to pull a quick one!!


Here it is:


ge·o·en·gi·neer
  [jee-oh-en-juh-neer] Show IPA
verb (used without object), verb (used with object)
1.
to make a large-scale effort to modify (the earth or its environment), especially to counteract global warming: Pulling carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere is one way to geoengineer the planet.


Also this is not particularly large scale at all.

So again - how is this geoengineering?
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