Obama's Social Security Number challenged

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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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This may have been posted elsewhere; if so, it must have been buried.



I have long since been convinced that Obama was groomed and put into office by the same people who have orchestrated many, if not most of the moves to overthrow our Constitutional Government from within. I believe that Obama was not born in Hawaii and is not a Natural Born Citizen and that Hawaii has also conspired with those with Obama to cover-up this fact.

I could say a great deal more about Obama, his qualifications and not being some kind of Manchurian Candidate and how he has violated his oath of office and could go on to point out that he really works for the same Globalists as Bush, Clinton and Bush Sr. before him b ut want to just focus on this issue about his Social Security Number at this time.

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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:09 AM
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I personally believe that all Presidents (and most world leaders) are all hand-picked also. But they are not hand-picking people who were not born in America or have fake SS numbers. That's absurd. Do people really think the Illuminati are that sloppy and lazy?

The whole birther movement is nonsense, IMO, and does a great disservice to Illuminati CTists. They've basically challenged everything about Barack Obama, more than they've challenged any other president, and so I think they are motivated by either racism or Islamophobia (him having an Arabic name and false accusations of him being a Muslim) or a combination of both.

With Barack Obama it seems the birthers throw whatever they can at a wall, no matter how much each claim contradicts the others, and see what sticks.

Even if, for argument's sake, his BC and SSN and college records and whatever else, are all fake, do you think the Illuminati would let that come out? Do you think they will let themselves be exposed in such a way? Again, how lazy and sloppy do you think they are? How can they control and manipulate the entire globe if they can't put a president in power without getting caught?



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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The answers, if any, will come from historians or the courts. Right now, the election is about all we can do.

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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by CoolerAbdullah786
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I personally believe that all Presidents (and most world leaders) are all hand-picked also. But they are not hand-picking people who were not born in America or have fake SS numbers. That's absurd. Do people really think the Illuminati are that sloppy and lazy?

The whole birther movement is nonsense, IMO, and does a great disservice to Illuminati CTists. They've basically challenged everything about Barack Obama, more than they've challenged any other president, and so I think they are motivated by either racism or Islamophobia (him having an Arabic name and false accusations of him being a Muslim) or a combination of both.

With Barack Obama it seems the birthers throw whatever they can at a wall, no matter how much each claim contradicts the others, and see what sticks.

Even if, for argument's sake, his BC and SSN and college records and whatever else, are all fake, do you think the Illuminati would let that come out? Do you think they will let themselves be exposed in such a way? Again, how lazy and sloppy do you think they are? How can they control and manipulate the entire globe if they can't put a president in power without getting caught?


Personally, I would attribute it to the fact that too many people are awakening to what is going on and and the elite are scrutinized too closely. Why would you feel the need to overshadow the facts with the race card or the fact that he IS Muslim?



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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There is always a new member that still loves Obama.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by ajay59


Personally, I would attribute it to the fact that too many people are awakening to what is going on and and the elite are scrutinized too closely. Why would you feel the need to overshadow the facts with the race card or the fact that he IS Muslim?


Again, the Illuminati are not that sloppy. I bring up race and Islam (and no he's not a Muslim, but even if he was, so what?) because no other president has been scrutinized in such a way as Barack Obama has. The only difference between him and other hand-picked puppets is that he's Black and has an Arabic name. Heck, most times when I see the "race card" played, the bigots reject that and say it's because "he's a Muslim. Not because he's Black."

How ever you slice that, it's still a form of bigotry. Show me one other President whose birth certificate, citizenship, Social Security Number, etc. have been questioned. None. Not one.

And for those who think that voting is going to change something...
Whoever ends up in the White House in November is already pre-determined. Voting is not going to change that.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by RowdyAmerican1
There is always a new member that still loves Obama.


I don't "still love Obama." Show me where I ever said that. Please back up that claim. I don't "still love Obama" but I also don't just buy into every piece of misinformation presented about him. The websites tagline is "Deny Ignorance." That's what I'm doing. And I'm also sure that's what you think you are doing. But using an ad hominem attack against me (like claiming I'm an Obamabot) isn't proving your point at all.
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by CoolerAbdullah786

Originally posted by ajay59


Personally, I would attribute it to the fact that too many people are awakening to what is going on and and the elite are scrutinized too closely. Why would you feel the need to overshadow the facts with the race card or the fact that he IS Muslim?


Again, the Illuminati are not that sloppy. I bring up race and Islam (and no he's not a Muslim, but even if he was, so what?) because no other president has been scrutinized in such a way as Barack Obama has. The only difference between him and other hand-picked puppets is that he's Black and has an Arabic name. Heck, most times when I see the "race card" played, the bigots reject that and say it's because "he's a Muslim. Not because he's Black."

How ever you slice that, it's still a form of bigotry. Show me one other President whose birth certificate, citizenship, Social Security Number, etc. have been questioned. None. Not one.

And for those who think that voting is going to change something...
Whoever ends up in the White House in November is already pre-determined. Voting is not going to change that.


Maybe, just maybe, Obama's the first puppet to have been put in place with hastily put together false documentation that sticks out due to so many being awakened! Focus on the facts! The facts are that Obama is a fraud and his documentation proves this!



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by ajay59


Maybe, just maybe, Obama's the first puppet to have been put in place with hastily put together false documentation that sticks out due to so many being awakened! Focus on the facts! The facts are that Obama is a fraud and his documentation proves this!


No, it's not facts. Just like the BC thing wasn't a fact. I do focus on facts. You claiming I do not is just another ad hominem. Maybes aren't facts.

I find it funny that you really think a group like the Illuminati Shadow Government would be that sloppy. If, and this is a big if, they were that sloppy it would be on purpose. I don't see any gain for them, though, in doing something so sloppy.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:48 AM
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I would have to agree with you. It would explain why a lot of 40,000 laws were passed as of this year and all kinds of deceitful litigations have been going on. The system is broken and corrupt and they won't stand up for their actions against humanity and god. So they are trying to take all of us down for their wrong doings. Which is probably why we were sold out to China, at least that's what it has been feeling like since we didn't pay our debt. A shame those pulling these schemes get just small fine for the billions to trillions they helped dislocate!



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by CoolerAbdullah786

Originally posted by ajay59


Maybe, just maybe, Obama's the first puppet to have been put in place with hastily put together false documentation that sticks out due to so many being awakened! Focus on the facts! The facts are that Obama is a fraud and his documentation proves this!


No, it's not facts. Just like the BC thing wasn't a fact. I do focus on facts. You claiming I do not is just another ad hominem. Maybes aren't facts.

I find it funny that you really think a group like the Illuminati Shadow Government would be that sloppy. If, and this is a big if, they were that sloppy it would be on purpose. I don't see any gain for them, though, in doing something so sloppy.




So you are saying that is OK for any US citizen to use a SSI# that was not issued to them? What is your motivation behind this belief? Are you using forged documentation as well?


Bye the way, you remind me of a parent offering their child a popsicle to distract them from the fact that you are throwing away their favorite toy!
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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What's your view on the whole Kenyan-born slant that was used on a book he wrote?

If being groomed why on Earth would this have been allowed?

Secondly, ever read "Operation: Deep Sleep?" Quite interesting if not foretelling.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Again, the Illuminati are not that sloppy. I bring up race and Islam (and no he's not a Muslim, but even if he was, so what?) because no other president has been scrutinized in such a way as Barack Obama has. The only difference between him and other hand-picked puppets is that he's Black and has an Arabic name. Heck, most times when I see the "race card" played, the bigots reject that and say it's because "he's a Muslim. Not because he's Black."

How ever you slice that, it's still a form of bigotry. Show me one other President whose birth certificate, citizenship, Social Security Number, etc. have been questioned. None. Not one.

And for those who think that voting is going to change something... Whoever ends up in the White House in November is already pre-determined. Voting is not going to change that.


You are assuming that the "Illuminati" are responsible for all of this..... I am not so sure about that. I think it has something to do with the CIA.

Don't think for a second, that there are not factions in the elitest class that are not at war with each other over how they want this whole NWO to be brought into power.

We will never know the truth, unless someone feels they are being left out of the upcoming empire and they start singing like a bird.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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Thank You, It is such a pleasure to read a comment that wasnt mean and insulting. This guys post is a prime example of class and manners. Not the same ole "move along nothing here to see that hasnt been seen before" kinda thing that makes me dislike reading the comments on here sometimes. But back to the subject, Obama can do ANYTHING and there will never be a consequence. What I wonder about is Obamas INTENT....is it good or bad ? Hollywood actors and talk show hosts seem to think the intentions are good but I just dont know,,kill list ? NDAA ? drones? wtf
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Dear avatard,

You've got an excellent question there. It's been argued for a good long while. Is he incompetent, or evil? (OK, that's an oversimplification, but you get the point.)

My opinion is that he has certain fixed principles, like:

"Principle #1 College educated liberals make better, more compassionate decisions, so they should make as many decisions as possible for as many people as possible."
"Principle #2 If you make a lot of money as a person or a company, you are stealing from somebody. That means, unless you support us, we will take the money from you and spend it in accordance with principle #1."
"Principle #3 The US can be considered a large company under Principle #2, and can be thought of as the thief of the world's wealth. Therefore we must make frequent apologies and payments to the rest of the world."
"Principle #4 Since spending money is a decision, it is only right under Principle #1 that we make all the money spending decisions. To do that, we need your money. To get it, we will take it."

At least that's how it looks to me.

With respect,
Charles1952



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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I really hate to be the one who points this out but, are we not straying away from the topic? If memory serves, the subject was the fact that Obama has broken FEDERAL LAW! Is he not subject to the law as are we all? The man, (whom ever he may be) has committed a crime that would land anyone of us here in prison for a long time! Is there no justice in the mind of anyone here? The cold hard fact is that by using an SSI# that was not issued to him is a federal crime, for get his ethnicity, forget his color and forget his personality! He broke the law and should be incarcerated!



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Dear ajay59,

You're quite correct, I did stray. My fault. But I'm not sure where to go from here. It will be shown to be false, the media will claim it isn't false, or ignore the story, no one in Washington will tackle it for fear of being called a "birther," and the story will fade away in the excitement of other news and the election.

If Romney wins, he won't push the subject for fear of being seen as hateful, petty, and vindictive. If Obama wins, we'll never get the truth of that or anything related to it.

With respect,
Charles1952



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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I am surprised to see that not only are there a few here who read, listen and can judge for themselves but are well informed far beyond just this one problem with Obama and that this Abdula Character was addressed well enough. It is ironic that contrary to what he wants to believe and contrary to the facade that Obama puts on, his primary role is a a Pied Piper for him and those like him.

Unfortunately, I believe it is too late to resolve what has taken many years to come about and removing Obama is not going to make any difference for a long list of reasons including the FACT that Romney is also owned and controlled by the same Global Elites that own and control Obama.





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