Police Attempt To Raid Garage Sale with AirSoft gear, Get Kicked To Curb (video)

reply to post by Ben81


Ow how i just love it when cops get kicked in their nuts by someone who knows the law.

"We are the law"

No you arent, but you do have to obey it like everyone else!

I have thought about it and now I will post this, about 1980 or so one of my co-workers was breaking up with his common law wife.
She was leaving him and he owned the house and all contents and two of the three cars.
His misfortune was his ex was seeing a local cop here in the city.
He was woken up at 2 am and dragged out of his own home while others moved out appliances and pots and pans.

Their misfortune was that the ex forgot to mention that my co-worker had a brother whom just happened to be a Mountie with a fairly high rank.

All the stuff was returned the next day and nothing was ever done about it.

Give them an inch and they will take a yard is not so out there anymore.

I know the police do good and do bad but what I am saying is they cross the line more and more and if nobody speaks up they will see that as a green light.

Regards, Iwinder

reply to post by Sek82


If they had probable cause, a search warrant would be easy to obtain.

They had no warrant, so they had no right.

And cmon, as if ANYONE would sell an actual M4A1 out in the open in a garage sale?

reply to post by jude11


It was over the top on the folks selling their stuff... bottom line.

They created a scene, where one wasn't needed..

I see no evidence of cops bashing the citizens here, does it happen? yes.. does it disturb me? yes..

Does it mean that I will take every opportunity to say the cops are thugs! Hell no...

They are for the most part, good folks, doing a job, and while there are quite a few that tarnish their reputation, these particular officers should not be included in the group.

They were merely doing their job.

reply to post by JacKatMtn


If he was "just doing his job" then why did he only actually leave the property after he was told he was being filmed?

He knew damn well he had no right to trespass.

Originally posted by Iwinder
I have thought about it and now I will post this, about 1980 or so one of my co-workers was breaking up with his common law wife.
She was leaving him and he owned the house and all contents and two of the three cars.
His misfortune was his ex was seeing a local cop here in the city.
He was woken up at 2 am and dragged out of his own home while others moved out appliances and pots and pans.

Their misfortune was that the ex forgot to mention that my co-worker had a brother whom just happened to be a Mountie with a fairly high rank.

All the stuff was returned the next day and nothing was ever done about it.

Give them an inch and they will take a yard is not so out there anymore.

I know the police do good and do bad but what I am saying is they cross the line more and more and if nobody speaks up they will see that as a green light.

Regards, Iwinder

Thanks for sharing .. great story
the ex dating a cop who abused of his power to show off his new GF
but she didnt tell him the guy had a brother with a high rank
and had to return everything with an apology .. awkward

damn they could do a movie with your story lol
would be the first to see it

hope the GF didnt get a beating the next day for not telling him about the brotha lol

reply to post by Romekje


trespass? I guess the buyers had to buy tickets to see what was for sale?

You know.. it's folks like these, that will spur the local government to institute yard/garage sale permits.. at around $10 a pop.. and once they do, the police can just show up anytime to verify that the seller has said permit.

Who the hell wants that?

Don't think it hasn't happened? I live in a rural county of Virginia.. and the local town has implemented the permit deal, I am sure that these hillbillies weren't the first one's to think of it.

It is just another way to take money from the folks to feed the public coffers...

reply to post by JacKatMtn


Yes he was trespassing, he was uninvited to get onto the property.

You can twist it all you want in favor of the cops but it doesnt change the facts. He even refused to get off the property when asked numerous times. Only when he got told he was being taped, he went to the sidewalk.

Says enough, he knew damn well he was in the wrong.

Wether or not you agree with how these folks handled it, LAW = LAW.

reply to post by JacKatMtn


its the cops normaly always making a scene .. you know better Jack
abusing of their power and intimidating anyone they come across is not new
its a police strategy to look like bad ass so anyone will comply
good to see not everyone comply WITHOUT A WARRANT

the law is simple .. nobody is above the law
especially not the cops who should show the good exemple
if they cant respect it then people will see that the law was made to be broken

they should know better
no shooting happened and no one has been wounded or killed
only in a emergency situation they should trespass on a private property
if the owner of the land dont give you the rights .. you can be shot on sight for defending your property

but only in america ..quite different in Canada lol
we have no gun shops even in Canadian tire
if it was illegal to buy guns in america they wouldnt sell guns beside the grocery store
so yes the people do have a right to sell legal stuff
the law is the law

Originally posted by JacKatMtn
This was a complete overreaction by the folks holding the sale..

Someone called the police, (who hasn't had a nosy neighbor), and they thought that there were weapons being sold...

The Police respond, show up, to check the sale.. the sellers had nothing to hide, and this would have been done in a minute flat, if they just let them verify that no firearms were for sale. Once they saw that it was airsoft stuff, they would have thanked the sellers for their time, logged the info, and moved on..

It's getting ridiculous these cop bashing events.. :shk:

I beg to differ here, what they are doing is trying to preserve our rights as they are written.

There is no compromise here either the cops are wrong or the folks having the sale are wrong.
So who backed off and looked really wrong?

You don't know what you got till it's gone!
Regards, Iwinder

Originally posted by Sek82
reply to post by mee30

 

Once the police were called (if indeed they were called) and told weapons were being sold at a garage sale, they had probably cause to search the premises - They had the right to be there, legally.

Still want my home address?

Just probable cause isn't enough to violate someone's rights.

You need probable cause to get a search warrant.

You all praise how much your rights are protected in the USA yet now you justify an illegal search just because "it would've only taken a minute"?

They could've chosen to coörperate right away, but chose not to, which was their right.

I know I am in a losing battle with the folks here..

But... I am on the same side worrying about over the top Police enforcement events.. just not willing to take this giant leap to say

"here they go again"..

Not this time...

Have your fun, I'll just kick back and shake my head :shk:

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by Iwinder
I have thought about it and now I will post this, about 1980 or so one of my co-workers was breaking up with his common law wife.
She was leaving him and he owned the house and all contents and two of the three cars.
His misfortune was his ex was seeing a local cop here in the city.
He was woken up at 2 am and dragged out of his own home while others moved out appliances and pots and pans.

Their misfortune was that the ex forgot to mention that my co-worker had a brother whom just happened to be a Mountie with a fairly high rank.

All the stuff was returned the next day and nothing was ever done about it.

Give them an inch and they will take a yard is not so out there anymore.

I know the police do good and do bad but what I am saying is they cross the line more and more and if nobody speaks up they will see that as a green light.

Regards, Iwinder

Thanks for sharing .. great story

the ex dating a cop who abused of his power to show off his new GF
but she didnt tell him the guy had a brother with a high rank
and had to return everything with an apology .. awkward

damn they could do a movie with your story lol
would be the first to see it

hope the GF didnt get a beating the next day for not telling him about the brotha lol

Yes it was funny, anyone here could figure out which city this happened in fairly fast.
The reason nothing came of it is because my co-worker did not want any more hassle and his brother was not too keen on killing a few good jobs with wife's and kids but.......If that stuff was not back by the next day there was a very good chance the chief himself would be on the block as they say.....
Absolutely true all the way here.

As they say here the Mountie always gets his man......
Regards, Iwinder

reply to post by Iwinder

Yes it was funny, anyone here could figure out which city this happened in fairly fast.

Ottawa or Toronto ?

reply to post by JacKatMtn


Would it have been so hard for the cop to stay on the sidewalk and just ask what they were selling, instead of just barging onto the property without permission?

This is what invoked the response of the civvies.

I find it hard to imagine if the cop would've stood on the sidewalk and simply asked "is that a real gun, may i see it?" that the situation would've progressed the same.

reply to post by Romekje


once again..

overreaction.. IMO..

The Police didn't barge into the sale, to say so is only inflating a ball that doesn't hold air.

I am sure that if those folks holding the sale, were in need of emergency assistance, they would meet the police on the sidewalk and escort them in to see what their emergency was..

Don't want the police to respond to a call by trespassing now would we?

This is silly at best..... disturbing at worst, that folks would find this a justified opportunity to bash cops doing their job..

IMO of course

Originally posted by Romekje
reply to post by Sek82

 

If they had probable cause, a search warrant would be easy to obtain.

They had no warrant, so they had no right.

And cmon, as if ANYONE would sell an actual M4A1 out in the open in a garage sale?

Law enforcement does not need a warrant to search or seize evidence that is "in plain view" if the officer has a right to be where the evidence is first spotted along with reasonable suspicion a crime may be in progress. Since it was visible from the sidewalk, they had the right to investigate further without a warrant.

It's clear to me this was a case of trolling for police response. Carry on with your police bashing, I'm walking away from this one as well.

reply to post by JacKatMtn


If they are responding to a call, they are invited by the act of the call..

Sorry, i think these folks might have over reacted a bit myself aswell, but it doesn't change a thing.

And i still love it when cops get put in their place, too much power abuse around, time for the citizens to do some abusing themselves.

reply to post by Romekje


They were responding to a call.. which happens many times a day... this was a simple deal. turned into madness by someone who wanted to show their hind end..

If copwatch is full of this type deal, they must be hurting for material..

We can agree to disagree on this one my friend, I am off to greener pastures

Originally posted by JacKatMtn
reply to post by Romekje

 

We can agree to disagree on this one my friend

I agree

Have fun at the pastures