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Own a Gun? Doctors Can Refuse to Treat You: (right on the heels of ObamaCare...)

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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 02:36 PM

If you have a gun in your home, can doctors be allowed to refuse you treatment? At least one federal judge thinks so, and she has issued a permanent injunction against a Florida law that would have forced doctors to provide their service.

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Last year, Florida passed the “Firearm Ownership Privacy Act,” which bars doctors from asking patients about guns in the home, “unless the practitioner in good faith believes the information is relevant to the patient’s medical care or safety” and would impose sanctions if doctors “unnecessarily harass a patient about firearm ownership.” The law was passed after an Ocala, Fla., couple complained that a doctor had asked them about guns and after they declined to answer refused to see them anymore.

But U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke had issued a temporary injunction after three doctors sued the state, claiming the “gag order” on talking to their patients about guns was an infringement of free speech and the doctor-patient relationship. The resulting legal battle became known as the “Docs vs. Glocks” case. In a ruling issued late last week, Cooke decided for the doctors and made her injunction against the law permanent.


So, here we go down the "Anyone owning a firearm is dangerous" road, again! Turns my stomach. What will it be next? Did you ever think about possessing a firearm" or "did you ever look at one and wonder what it would be like to shoot one, or even just hold one?" DANGEROUS!!!

A dam shame that what was an such a main part of our country's development and successes is now being labeled in such poor ways.

I dare say the gun... if you will, made this country able to become such a great nation and I dare say when this country is down on it's knees-at it's weakest point... the Good people who own guns will be the ones to take America back and restore her to it's greatness.

Like it or not, there are some REALLY BAD people on this earth that would just love for us to give up our right to bare arms and the ability of each of us to have a chance of protecting yourself-IN STEAD of hoping the Gov't does it.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 02:44 PM
This is insane...
"'Guns in the home are a proven deadly risk,' Gross said in a statement.'The government cannot tell us or our doctors that we are prohibited from discussing the deadly risks posed by guns.'"
It is funny for a second, as if they think we are babies or something. But then you realize, a majority of people will believe this bs, and it turns into a knot in your stomach.

If you dont have a bullet wound or lead poisoning, what the hell does your firearm have to do with your doctor visit?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 02:45 PM
Are the patients being treated for mental illness?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 02:48 PM
Surely if you're in need of a doctor at your home you're not going to shoot him when he gets there? Seems a bit crazy to me?
edit on 4/7/2012 by Grifter81 because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 02:50 PM

wouldn't it be a better idea to just have the doctors recommend trigger locks and gun safes and them just treat the patient ?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:01 PM

Originally posted by KoolerKing
Are the patients being treated for mental illness?

Yeah? I wonder if it has to do with medication. Maybe some medications for mental illness, or insomnia etc. have violent and irrational side effects...

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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:05 PM
you know what is still legal? telling your doctor you don't own any guns. even if you do.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:07 PM
Considering that most doctors are rather worthless money-suckers, who don't listen and are awful at diagnostics, perhaps we should just not visit them for every sniffle, ache and pain.

Having said that, I cannot imagine the local physician's assistant at our local rural clinic asking if I have guns, because everybody has guns out here in Texas. However, if I was asked, I have no qualms about lying. It is none of his business.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:09 PM
Its easy to look at it from the side of "well, I'm not gonna be able to get treated for pneumonia because of my guns!" but maybe is there some legitimacy with the influx of drugs that have "depression" and "suicidal thoughts" side effects.

Regardless, bureaucracy has no place in deciding the answer.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:10 PM
Pretty simple loophole.... Dr says "do you own a gun?" You say "No"..... its that simply

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:20 PM
blocking a person from giving the other person some good information could stop them from purchasing the correct weapon for them given their physical problems as putting a desert eagle in the hands of someone who can barely lift the weapon is liably to be a bad idea

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:30 PM
reply to post by anon72

Jesus christ.

This bull# again.

When will gun rights advocates stop making the health care debate about them with these lies? They tried it back when it was coming out (With no evidence to show for it, naturally) and now they try it again.

How are the doctors going to know you own a gun? This isn't a question that my doctor has ever asked me, and I doubt she ever will.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:40 PM
now doctors are going to pack two gun holsters while making house calls, because you don't know if your patient is going to shoot you or pay you.

i think that's awesome, you're not only a doctor, but a gunslinger too.

it's making want to sign up for medical school.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:51 PM
This would have made much more sense during the days when Doc Holliday was a dentist, because of the painful methods of dentistry back then, it may have been smart to keep a gun handy

But these things coming out now seem to be totally related to this abomination masked as a healthcare bill..
It is a safe bet there are all kinds of anti freedom agendas in that bill.

If you made a bill like this and enacted it upon the citizens, you would be deathly afraid of armed citizens too..
Food for thought...

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:07 PM
reply to post by dayve

That is for now... but just wait and see what happens when ObamaCare is fully implemented. When they start cross-referencing Tax records, Gun ownership records etc etc etc.

We are about 5 months away from losing any individualism that one can have-plain and simple.

Now, I am kinda hoping for the Rapture, or Life Changing Event, world collapse. Like a bit Toilet Flush of the current human kind on this planet-the ones running it anyway. call it an equalizer.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:28 PM
Why shouldn't doctors be able to ask a patient if they own a gun?

The law as it was written was stupid and needed to go. There's no reason for a legal ban on doctor-patient discussions involving guns.

Guns can cause adverse health affects, beyond the obvious injuries associated with being shot. Indoor air pollution is a known safety hazard in indoor gun ranges, burns and minor injuries can occur from improper handling of a weapon, and hearing loss is a widespread result of improper ear protection when firing a weapon.

I think anyone with some common sense realizes that it's important for a healthcare provider to be made aware of the possible sources for any ailment, there's no reason guns should be an exception to this.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:35 PM
I am pretty sure more people are killed each year by doctors than by guns. I will have to look it up now.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 06:51 PM
The source is World Net Daily, not reputable at all. They've clearly twisted and distorted this for "attention" like the National Enquirer does

Our right to bear arms isn't at danger... bearing automatic machine guns and missle launchers maybe, but not regular arms.

And not due to anything posted on that original source, they are well known for their distortions.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:32 PM
reply to post by PurpleChiten

We have heard it all before. WND has been proven more right than wrong.

So, what do you consider good sources....

I already drew up a list of what you are going to say and sealed in an envelope.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:34 PM
reply to post by anon72

WND is similar to infowars. They take a story and warp it to mean something else entirely.

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