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French Socialists Approve 75% Tax Rate for High Earners

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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:41 PM
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Increased tax revenue? Yeah that's not going to happen. The number of people in that income bracket will drop like an anvil. People who are that rich can and will leave the country. France will get less money than before and now they have a culture that will discourage rich people from moving there. Everyone earning money there will do whatever it takes to stay in a lower tax bracket.




posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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What happened to BH?
Has she redistributed all her almost one million ATS points yet ?
Hope I didn't miss out.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
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Ah , i see. So it is okay for the poor to step all over the rich because their poor and they think everyone with money is out to destroy their soul? You have the oppurtunity to be self made in America. Take it or leave it. You have a choice. Live a simple life , moderate life , or rich life. Which one are you willing to work for?

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When poor people are asking for healthcare, food and shelter they are 'stepping all over the rich'.

When rich people want to buy a 5th house, 7th car or that brand new gulfstream personal jet, that's just good old capitalism at work.


Only when you realize that rich people are rich at the expense of the working poor, will you realize just how wrong your point of view is.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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They are asking for healthcare and food? It's called charity otherwise , its up to them to feed themselves and provide healthcare. It's not my responsibility to provide for you. It is God's and yourself. Not mine.
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


Ah , i see. So it is okay for the poor to step all over the rich because their poor and they think everyone with money is out to destroy their soul? You have the oppurtunity to be self made in America. Take it or leave it. You have a choice. Live a simple life , moderate life , or rich life. Which one are you willing to work for?

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if the wages were good enough most people would not have to work two or three jobs to break even. Jobs have been outsourced for over two decades now. It is called international capitalism aka corporate imperialism. If you think it is bad for the usa(which it is) then take a trip to africa and asia.

Unions existed for a purpose and they are dying. the bought-out government is satanic in nature. they can do NOTHING right it seems.

You trying to turn this around is patheticely dishonest of you or you are ignorant. Probably the first!



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by drwizardphd
 


They are asking for healthcare and food? It's called charity otherwise , its up to them to feed themselves and provide healthcare. It's not my responsibility to provide for you. It is God's and yourself.




Originally posted by drwizardphd

Only when you realize that rich people are rich at the expense of the working poor, will you realize just how wrong your point of view is.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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Hm , so the Rich are at the wrong because the average joe or poor are willing to pay for their products or services? I am not a Banker and Bankers are corrupt , wall street as well. Obviously. However , they aren't the only rich people in America. I am not Rich , but i am upper middle class and i am very blessed.

I don't know why you expect me to pay for your life because you aren't willing to strive to improve your standing.
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by votan
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And if you say if you don't like work for yourself. . well let me tell you. It is not like the olden days when you could just get up and work for yourself. You can if you want to break a few laws but most industries are setup for go big or get out.. plus all the certifications and licensing you need to get just to do almost any kind of contracting.. not to mention liability insurance and insurance if you have employees. it is a nightmare. Little by little they plug all the holes so they funnel you into their slave shops.



tax them to hell





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again the government is the tyrant here. not the business man.
you think they make too much money? well they own the business. it's not yours.

you mean steal all their money.

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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


Hm , so the Rich are at the wrong because the average joe or poor are willing to pay for their products or services? I am not a Banker and Bankers are corrupt , wall street as well. Obviously. However , they aren't the only rich people in America. I am not Rich , but i am upper middle class and i am very blessed.

I don't know why you expect me to pay for your life because you aren't willing to strive to improve your standing.
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So where should the highest cut-off point be? Should it be $1 million, $5 million or $10 million?

How much should the highest tax bracket be? I say about 45%!

Wall Street IS THE PROBLEM! Wall Street RUNS THE GOVERNMENT!

And many people DO WANT to improve themselves. Should they learn chineese and pack their bags to leave??? Get real!!!



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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No good money




posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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I love how this post got more stars than the OP's first post lol


It takes some big balls to openly defend corporate fat cats on this forum, OP. I'll give you that. I just hope you realize that you're in for a bumpy ride in this thread.
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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I certainly respect those that want less legislation for small and medium business. What really annoys me is those that make blanket statements that the government is the tyrant and/or fail to make distinctions. Those that purposefully make vague suggestions are trolls of big business. I think they are getting paid to post nonsense!



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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25% tax rate for all Americans should be fair. In my view , of course that could change as i find the tax code very confusing and boring. Our entire Tax Code needs to be re-written in easy understandable language.

I give to Charity and if you needed food , i would not hesitate to give you food. Will it be a 5 star restaurant .. no.

Food Stamps , Medicaid / Medicare , government housing , free healthcare clinics , and social security / disability ... what more do you want? Everyone to live in a High Rise apartment , mansions , cabinets filled to the brim? Would be nice , but that cost money we dont have.

America lives outside its means already. We dont need more added. Following France's movement is a very bad idea. Socialism 101.

Government Healthcare (Mandatory) socialism.
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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So that's your point ? You don't have anything to bring to the table except "xxx didn't gave a part of his points so taxes should be banned" ?

Well France isn't the USA, the official motto isn't "In god we trust" but "Freedom, equality, fraternity", so if you're french you'll have to respect the last point and help those who had less luck in life and help them, that what fraternity is : treat others like your brothers.

Above : you do realise that a 25% tax on 1 200 000 dollars (for example) isn't that far from what the french made with their 75% tax for incomes above 1M (which means 75% of 200 000 here), right ?

Looking at your post I think I shouldn't post here anymore, you don't seem to understand much about economics or politics, it just line up with your lack of historical knowledge.
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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yup getting paid 29cents per mile by a huge greedy corporation, that i do not own, to make vague statements about the tyrants in my government. i'am a troll and you are a shill for slavery...



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 


25% tax rate for all Americans should be fair. In my view , of course that could change as i find the tax code very confusing and boring. Our entire Tax Code needs to be re-written in easy understandable language.

I give to Charity and if you needed food , i would not hesitate to give you food. Will it be a 5 star restaurant .. no.

Food Stamps , Medicaid / Medicare , government housing , free healthcare clinics , and social security / disability ... what more do you want? Everyone to live in a High Rise apartment , mansions , cabinets filled to the brim? Would be nice , but that cost money we dont have.
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Sorry but 25% tax rate will not cut it for the highest income earners....say those that make $5 million or more annually. Yes the taxation system sucks but that is because it is rigged with loopholes for those that rule america, more or less giving them many backdoor exits to screw the majority whom cannot afford to live and pay taxes.

Thank you for being more constructive in your debate.



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by bjax9er
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yup getting paid 29cents per mile by a huge greedy corporation, that i do not own, to make vague statements about the tyrants in my government. i'am a troll and you are a shill for slavery...


I don't have to worry about paying high taxes because I am not a greedy sob raking in the millions. I barely make enough to get bye and pay whatever I am supposed to pay in taxes, which sometimes is excessive imo.

Those that make more should pay more. The only question is drawing accurate lines with common sense.

Redistribution of wealth is necessary to prevent excessive borrowing from the private central banks. It also helps to prevent ramplant inflation when the government's credit rating goes to the dumpster and it needs to print its own money.
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posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by bjax9er
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yup getting paid 29cents per mile by a huge greedy corporation, that i do not own, to make vague statements about the tyrants in my government. i'am a troll and you are a shill for slavery...


I don't have to worry about paying high taxes because I am not a greedy sob raking in the millions. I barely make enough to get bye and pay whatever I am supposed to pay in taxes, which sometimes is excessive imo.

Those that make more should pay more. The only question is drawing accurate lines with common sense.

Redistribution of wealth is necessary to prevent excessive borrowing from the private central banks. It also helps to prevent ramplant inflation when the government's credit rating goes to the dumpster and it needs to print its own money.
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i say you are a greedy sob.
you wan't to steal my money for your self, or some poor smuck i don't even know.
redistribution, is theft at the hands of a tyrant/government.
who is the tyrant who created the central bank?



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 02:48 PM
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question for all you socialists.
do you want equality,
or
equal opportunity,
or
equal misery?



posted on Jul, 5 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by bjax9er

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by bjax9er
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
 



yup getting paid 29cents per mile by a huge greedy corporation, that i do not own, to make vague statements about the tyrants in my government. i'am a troll and you are a shill for slavery...


I don't have to worry about paying high taxes because I am not a greedy sob raking in the millions. I barely make enough to get bye and pay whatever I am supposed to pay in taxes, which sometimes is excessive imo.

Those that make more should pay more. The only question is drawing accurate lines with common sense.

Redistribution of wealth is necessary to prevent excessive borrowing from the private central banks. It also helps to prevent ramplant inflation when the government's credit rating goes to the dumpster and it needs to print its own money.
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i say you are a greedy sob.
you wan't to steal my money for your self, or some poor smuck i don't even know.
redistribution, is theft at the hands of a tyrant/government.
who is the tyrant who created the central bank?


You have a very warped sense of reality.

Redistribution of wealth and the ability of government to perform its functions is not theft.

If you really believe your own non-sense then do us all a favor and turn yourself in to the authorities or go aboard the space shuttle and leave this planet. Maybe somalia would be good for you as well. You didn't even have to work so hard if were going to have this pathetic attitude. You think it is better to work with your hands and pay little taxes? It is never too late to change lifestyles!

Good thing ATS has strict terms and conditions in relation to youtube. It prevents people from abusing you!




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