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Topic started on 7-10-2004 @ 12:34 AM by Disastro
Hippie bass player to student to defense worker to conspiracy victim?
I did a search on ATS and nothing came up on this subject so I thought that I might share the story and see if anybody else has heard about it and if they have any information to share.
There has been a huge amount of speculation as to what actually happened to Phillip Taylor Kramer in his final hours and the project he was working on before his death. This is small piece that the Washington Post printed I found at Sceptic Files
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- The day he disappeared, Philip Taylor
Kramer, who was worth more than a million dollars, had 40 cents
in his pocket. In his head he carried secrets, some said to be
of incalculable value.
An aerospace engineer, he knew how to configure the flight path
of a nuclear missile. A computer executive, he developed
revolutionary technology to compress and transmit data. A
student of theoretical physics, he pursued particles and
equations that he believed would someday permit objects to move
faster than the speed of light -- "warp speed" -- making
possible travel to the stars.
These facts alone set the disappearance of Philip Taylor Kramer
apart from your average milk-carton missing persons case. Add
one other: The rocket scientist was a rocker. Kramer could
expertly lay down the throbbing bass line for
"In-a-Gadda-da-Vida," the baroque hippie anthem he used to
perform as a member of the band Iron Butterfly.
Here is another link, this time to a Maximonline article magazine. I understand that yes it's Maxim, not exactly high end freelance journalism but if you can see through the assumptions the author makes the article lays out the bare bones of the story pretty well.
Does anybody at ATS have any personal knowledge about this subject? Better resources than I can find? Opinions or thoughts after reading the material I provided? Thanks in advance for anybody that may be able to help.
Another link
One more link
I did a search on ATS and nothing came up on this subject so I thought that I might share the story and see if anybody else has heard about it and if they have any information to share.
There has been a huge amount of speculation as to what actually happened to Phillip Taylor Kramer in his final hours and the project he was working on before his death. This is small piece that the Washington Post printed I found at Sceptic Files
THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. -- The day he disappeared, Philip Taylor
Kramer, who was worth more than a million dollars, had 40 cents
in his pocket. In his head he carried secrets, some said to be
of incalculable value.
An aerospace engineer, he knew how to configure the flight path
of a nuclear missile. A computer executive, he developed
revolutionary technology to compress and transmit data. A
student of theoretical physics, he pursued particles and
equations that he believed would someday permit objects to move
faster than the speed of light -- "warp speed" -- making
possible travel to the stars.
These facts alone set the disappearance of Philip Taylor Kramer
apart from your average milk-carton missing persons case. Add
one other: The rocket scientist was a rocker. Kramer could
expertly lay down the throbbing bass line for
"In-a-Gadda-da-Vida," the baroque hippie anthem he used to
perform as a member of the band Iron Butterfly.
Here is another link, this time to a Maximonline article magazine. I understand that yes it's Maxim, not exactly high end freelance journalism but if you can see through the assumptions the author makes the article lays out the bare bones of the story pretty well.
Does anybody at ATS have any personal knowledge about this subject? Better resources than I can find? Opinions or thoughts after reading the material I provided? Thanks in advance for anybody that may be able to help.
Another link
One more link
reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 01:49 PM by Todeskopf
I remembered after reading this post that they eventually DID find his body, in his van...
The mysterious disappearance of one-time Iron Butterfly bassist
Philip "Taylor" Kramer, 42, has come to a tragic conclusion with
the May 29, 1999, discovery by hikers of his 1993 Ford Aerostar
van at the bottom of a Malibu, Calif., ravine. Skeletal remains
found inside and near the vehicle were confirmed through dental
records to be those of Kramer.
Kramer's Feb. 12, 1995, disappearance has been the subject of
numerous TV shows due both to his connection with Iron Butterfly
and his involvement with government projects, lending X-Files–like
conspiracy overtones to his vanishing. Unfortunately, most reports
have given the mistaken impression that he was with Iron Butterfly
during the band's "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" days when in fact he
was only with the band during a mid-70s re-formation. Most
glaring (and high profile) of these shows is a segment on VH-1's
Where Are They Now? which, while purporting to be on the band
as a whole, devoted more than three and a half minutes out of the
five-minute segment to the Kramer mystery, never once mentioning
that Lee Dorman was the main Butterfly bassist during their classic
years. This was done in spite of Dorman being both interviewed
and shown performing on stage during the VH-1 show.
Kramer played in a number of bands in Ohio (including Max, with
future Dead Boy Stiv Bators) before moving to L.A. in the early
'70s. After working a number of odd jobs and even living on the
streets, he was asked to join an Iron Butterfly reunion by original
drummer and friend Ron Bushy, whom he'd been working with as
a prop builder at Warner Brothers Studios. Along with guitarist
Erik Braunn and keyboardist Howard Reitzes, they recorded
Scorching Beauty for MCA in 1974, followed by Sun And Steel
(with Bill DeMartines replacing Reitzes). Neither album was
particularly good, and while the band toured based on the strength
of the name (with Kramer singing "IAGDV"), the band folded in
1977. Kramer and Bushy formed a post-Butterfly group called
Gold and recorded an unreleased album during '78-'79. After that
stint Kramer quit the music business altogether.
Kramer immersed himself in schooling, studying engineering and
getting a job building radar equipment. He graduated from night
school with straight A's and got a job at Northrup, working on the
design of the MX missile. At the time of his disappearance, he had
reportedly discovered a mathematical formula that would allow
matter to travel faster than the speed of light. His involvement in
projects of this nature have led to theories that he was abducted or
murdered.
What is known is that on Feb. 12, 1995, having spent an hour
waiting at Los Angeles International Airport for a business contact
who never arrived, he called both his wife and Ron Bushy from his
cell phone in his car, leaving Bushy a cryptic message about seeing
him "...on the other side." According to newspaper reports,
Kramer also called 911 just before noon that day and said he was
going to commit suicide. Despite this, family members believe he
could have been the victim of foul play.
Officials said that determining whether Kramer's death was a
suicide, murder or accident could take months.
Link to original article----->CLICK HERE
[edit on 7-10-2004 by Todeskopf]
The mysterious disappearance of one-time Iron Butterfly bassist
Philip "Taylor" Kramer, 42, has come to a tragic conclusion with
the May 29, 1999, discovery by hikers of his 1993 Ford Aerostar
van at the bottom of a Malibu, Calif., ravine. Skeletal remains
found inside and near the vehicle were confirmed through dental
records to be those of Kramer.
Kramer's Feb. 12, 1995, disappearance has been the subject of
numerous TV shows due both to his connection with Iron Butterfly
and his involvement with government projects, lending X-Files–like
conspiracy overtones to his vanishing. Unfortunately, most reports
have given the mistaken impression that he was with Iron Butterfly
during the band's "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" days when in fact he
was only with the band during a mid-70s re-formation. Most
glaring (and high profile) of these shows is a segment on VH-1's
Where Are They Now? which, while purporting to be on the band
as a whole, devoted more than three and a half minutes out of the
five-minute segment to the Kramer mystery, never once mentioning
that Lee Dorman was the main Butterfly bassist during their classic
years. This was done in spite of Dorman being both interviewed
and shown performing on stage during the VH-1 show.
Kramer played in a number of bands in Ohio (including Max, with
future Dead Boy Stiv Bators) before moving to L.A. in the early
'70s. After working a number of odd jobs and even living on the
streets, he was asked to join an Iron Butterfly reunion by original
drummer and friend Ron Bushy, whom he'd been working with as
a prop builder at Warner Brothers Studios. Along with guitarist
Erik Braunn and keyboardist Howard Reitzes, they recorded
Scorching Beauty for MCA in 1974, followed by Sun And Steel
(with Bill DeMartines replacing Reitzes). Neither album was
particularly good, and while the band toured based on the strength
of the name (with Kramer singing "IAGDV"), the band folded in
1977. Kramer and Bushy formed a post-Butterfly group called
Gold and recorded an unreleased album during '78-'79. After that
stint Kramer quit the music business altogether.
Kramer immersed himself in schooling, studying engineering and
getting a job building radar equipment. He graduated from night
school with straight A's and got a job at Northrup, working on the
design of the MX missile. At the time of his disappearance, he had
reportedly discovered a mathematical formula that would allow
matter to travel faster than the speed of light. His involvement in
projects of this nature have led to theories that he was abducted or
murdered.
What is known is that on Feb. 12, 1995, having spent an hour
waiting at Los Angeles International Airport for a business contact
who never arrived, he called both his wife and Ron Bushy from his
cell phone in his car, leaving Bushy a cryptic message about seeing
him "...on the other side." According to newspaper reports,
Kramer also called 911 just before noon that day and said he was
going to commit suicide. Despite this, family members believe he
could have been the victim of foul play.
Officials said that determining whether Kramer's death was a
suicide, murder or accident could take months.
Link to original article----->CLICK HERE
[edit on 7-10-2004 by Todeskopf]
reply posted on 20-7-2008 @ 05:50 PM by Badge01
Biography Channel The Unexplained replayed their show on Kramer today.
(strange disappearances, #35)
Interesting how it links him to the Philadelphia Experiment and guidance systems.
Bio channel has one relative saying 'maybe he built his time machine and disappeared into the future or something'
Another quite serious relative said that abduction by aliens was actually a pretty good explanation for what happened.
They talked about the 7th level transcendence of the Celestine Prophecy and other things.
Here's a link with some interesting comments with a bit of a skeptic's slant.
Cool show and interesting topic. Not surprised I found a topic here on ATS with info on it.
Wiki has a page which duplicates some of these links.
One group said they did discover his body and linked the bones found in a van to him, but we all know how that can sometimes go. Without independent verification of that, I tend to view those claims with a jaundiced eye. They're almost as unreliable as claims of the paranormal, bent on 'debunking' and settling the case. People don't like living with uncertainty. I feel for his family who truly seem to still miss him to this day.
[edit on 20-7-2008 by Badge01]
(strange disappearances, #35)
Interesting how it links him to the Philadelphia Experiment and guidance systems.
Bio channel has one relative saying 'maybe he built his time machine and disappeared into the future or something'
Another quite serious relative said that abduction by aliens was actually a pretty good explanation for what happened.
They talked about the 7th level transcendence of the Celestine Prophecy and other things.
Here's a link with some interesting comments with a bit of a skeptic's slant.
Cool show and interesting topic. Not surprised I found a topic here on ATS with info on it.
Wiki has a page which duplicates some of these links.
One group said they did discover his body and linked the bones found in a van to him, but we all know how that can sometimes go. Without independent verification of that, I tend to view those claims with a jaundiced eye. They're almost as unreliable as claims of the paranormal, bent on 'debunking' and settling the case. People don't like living with uncertainty. I feel for his family who truly seem to still miss him to this day.
[edit on 20-7-2008 by Badge01]
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