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If You Were Handed A Document Confirming Ailen Life What Would You Do?

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posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by BenReclused
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Thanks for proving my point Milt, it is appreciated.

What point? All I saw was your false claim!

As you so handily demonstrate, the truth can NEVER be debunked. It can only be denied. That's all you're doing.

See ya,
Milt



I seem to recall a story about people saying the truth could never be debunked, what was it about now? Oh yes, the Earth being flat. Truth is relative. Truth is ever changing, ever expanding and therefore can be debunked when a new truth becomes the accepted version of Truth.




posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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I seem to recall a story about people saying the truth could never be debunked, what was it about now? Oh yes, the Earth being flat. Truth is relative. Truth is ever changing, ever expanding and therefore can be debunked when a new truth becomes the accepted version of Truth.

You are confusing "truth" with "belief".

People once BELIEVED that the Earth was flat. That BELIEF was DEBUNKED as the TRUTH became known. That BELIEF never was the TRUTH!

See ya,
Milt
edit on 3-7-2012 by BenReclused because: Typo



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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Unless the documents were talking about a dangerous alien invasion in the nearby future then i think i would just spread the info in the word of mouth fashion. I mean i do think that humans have a right to know if we are being visited, but just imagine how people would react to this news just being sprung on them. I think it would lead to mass chaos. I think the gradual approach really is the way to go.



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 07:52 PM
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Originally posted by Wirral Bagpuss
Imagine you were working in a Govt Agency and had Above Top Secret clearance. What if one day in the course of your job you came into posession a brown file in which it contains documents confirming that ailens are visiting Earth. For arguments sake, lets imagine the documents are 100% legitamite and the real deal. What would you do?


Well, first off, there isn't any "above top secret" clearance. Once you get to TS, they apply various levels of compartmentalization and policy on top of "need to know".

And the file wouldn't be brown, it would be orange or yellow.

If I came into possession of such a file, and I wasn't supposed to have that document, I wouldn't look in the jacket, and I'd call the SO and wait in the place where I found them.

If I was supposed to have it, I would have had to sign an NDA at the least, although for UFOs you'd get the full read-in. In which case, I'd be honor-bound not to tell you squat. Not to mention (and here's the rub) if it was real, the gubmint would exercise their full rights under US Code to execute you without jury trial if you exposed it.

Anyway, what could I tell you? There's not much to know. The aliens so far are either a sort of dark red lichen, or a black lichen. Although it's not really lichen per se, but it sure looks like it.



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 07:56 PM
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Well first, if I were in a top secret clearance agency where I would come across something of that nature, the first thing I do is pass my test by keeping my mouth shut, simply because no offense to anyone here on ATS but tell the truth, most of the people I meet on a daily basis are not exactly the smartest or most open minded, our they are so set in their religion or whatever, that kind of knowledge could be mentally devastating for religious extremists, it could be devastating to so many people on so many different levels, common sense tells you to keep your mouth shut, and even at that if I had that kind of clearance I would probably still visit ATS cause I enjoy all the intelligent conversations I've read and participated in here, but if I did have that kind of top secret clearance I'm sorry but I wouldn't tell anyone here, SORRY



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by sweetstuff

Originally posted by BenReclused
reply to post by Klassified
 


Thanks for proving my point Milt, it is appreciated.

What point? All I saw was your false claim!

As you so handily demonstrate, the truth can NEVER be debunked. It can only be denied. That's all you're doing.

See ya,
Milt



I seem to recall a story about people saying the truth could never be debunked, what was it about now? Oh yes, the Earth being flat. Truth is relative. Truth is ever changing, ever expanding and therefore can be debunked when a new truth becomes the accepted version of Truth.


Speaking of debunking falsehoods...



The myth of the Flat Earth is the modern misconception that the prevailing cosmological view during the Middle Ages saw the Earth as flat, instead of spherical.

The idea seems to have been widespread during the first half of the 20th century, so that the Members of the Historical Association in 1945 stated that:
"The idea that educated men at the time of Columbus believed that the earth was flat, and that this belief was one of the obstacles to be overcome by Columbus before he could get his project sanctioned, remains one of the hardiest errors in teaching."

During the early Middle Ages, virtually all scholars maintained the spherical viewpoint first expressed by the Ancient Greeks.

By the 14th century, belief in a flat earth among the educated was nearly nonexistent. However, the exterior of the famous triptych The Garden of Earthly Delights by Hieronymus Bosch is a Renaissance example in which a disc-shaped earth is shown floating inside a transparent sphere.


Myth of the Flat Earth

Truth may be subjective but facts are empirical and immutable.



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 08:48 PM
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I'd write up a post on ATS with the title "100% PROOF that aliens exist"; describe the documents in great detail, without ever producing them; and, keep making reference to a photo that I took of it with my iPhone, but I can't figure out how to upload it.

edit on 3/7/2012 by Rexamillian because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 10:07 PM
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I think you missed my point entirely that people often take belief as truth until newly discovered facts prove that truth to have been only a belief. Today's truth could very well be tomorrow's belief. We believe we have immutable facts that tell us how the universe works, yet they are just that, belief, not facts that will never change with growing knowledge and discovery. But lots of 'experts' will claim it's a cold hard undisputable FACT until it's proven disputable. If you really believe that truth never changes, what the hell are you on this site for? Take your truth from CNN.



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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I work at a university and i have rebate for copies, so i would buy for 1000$ of copies of this 'real deal alien proof documents' and spam it all over canada. unti l find more people who want to help me and buy more copies and keep going. until i go to jail probably lol...

because this is where it would lead me, jail for spamming conspiracy none-sense as viewed by the sheeple or hte guardian of the sheeples



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 10:46 PM
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A document means nothing. The Bible is a document. Do you believe all in it then???

Ok, I guess not so lets put this ridiculous question aside.

No document can prove anything. Just show me an alien.



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 11:34 PM
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I think you missed my point entirely that people often take belief as truth until newly discovered facts prove that truth to have been only a belief.

I didn't miss your point at all! You didn't make one! What you did do was make a silly claim that because people once believed something, it must have been true. That is nonsense! The truth is not dependent upon our perception of what it may be. Nor does it change to suit our beliefs. Our beliefs are what change, not the truth. Though it seems to be a very difficult concept for you to grasp, if a "truth" changes, it wasn't the TRUTH to begin with.


If you really believe that truth never changes, what the hell are you on this site for?

I reckon I love to debunk silliness such as yours. I certainly do find a lot of it.

See ya,
Milt
edit on 3-7-2012 by BenReclused because: Typo



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:11 AM
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I would (secretly) copy the documents. Then I would hide them in a place that only I know of. I would wait a while; make a lot more copies and mail them (anonymously) to many, many newspapers....the popular known papers and the not so known publications, and I would know out of all of that... the truth would be revealed to the public.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:47 AM
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I would present it here on ATS where it would be recieved with no scorn or any demands for proof !
As a 100% real document I am sure it would be recieved as such



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:48 AM
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depends. but the most important point is that i have the facts in my hands
what happens next, depends on so many things, mood, circumstances, peoples reaction, momentum, faith, what shoe color i wear today, whether the girl i like is wanting me too?
stock market prices, the wheather, where the omen stands at the given time, etc.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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I would not disclose it but keep the document safe...or maybe just destroy it. If we are visited by galactic aliens, no nation will ever be properly prepared if at all. Document or not, it's not going to change anything so why cause a panic?



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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I like your answer alot, but I'd do the exact opposite and probably go to any means to release it. I agree that our response/preparation would be haphazard and not well thought out. But that would be the INITIAL reaction. If our initial reaction is 'prepare for war' I'd rather that preparation come sooner..and be followed by thinking...and counter movements...and more thinking before the aliens arrive. As opposed to, of course, our first reaction (when the aliens are here) being "lets go to war!"



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 02:42 AM
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There are already documents that 'prove' the existence, no matter what you do still nobody would give a sh1t like now.

You have to haul that little green fellas ass out on stage in front of the world and crucify him on a big cross before anyone took any notice.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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I would simply believe it, and then get on with life since its allready obvious we are not alone.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Here is what you would do. You would write a book or a movie script about it. You would form it into a wonderful story to tell. Then countless millions of people would see either the movie or read the book. Now, you wouldn't write the book or script as it is in the documentation, you would lavish it for the audience.

Then after a while when you get interviewed on T.V. they would ask you were you got the inspiration from? That's when you would reveal the documents and then everyone who believe and know. That's how you combat and squash disinformation agents. Then they are powerless as you beat them at their own game.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:57 PM
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I'm for full disclosure. No matter what the circumstances...it's going to make a huge dent in our view of reality. Des
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I'm for full disclosure too, however it's worth considering that the consequences of full disclosure could be catastrophic.

First off...Riots, panic in the streets etc (which may well be followed by a state of emergency and curfews and things)

Second the religious implications are huge. Believer or non believer anyone can see that the religious leaders and those of devout belief would not take too kindly to disclosure. As well as the general populous... That kind of profound knowledge will take time to digest. You're looking at people not showing up for work etc the economy would suffer a major hit (TPTB will NOT let that happen).

I could go on and on but I'm sure you get the idea. The problem is that the longer the government leave it the harder it will be to do so don't hold your breath



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