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Real ID & that Little Gold Star on Your Driver’s License

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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 02:57 AM
reply to post by havok

Florida here. No gold stars or blurb about not using for federal ID on our licenses. Yet.

ETA: i just looked at the DMV site. We got ours in 2008. The REAL ID licenses were issued beginning in 2010, so when we renew, we'll have it.

edit on 7/4/2012 by Blackjack Baby because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:21 AM
Look up "Smart Dust" . RFID chips are a thing of the past , a useless piece of garbage lol . this stuff can basically be ingested (unknowingly)

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 03:45 AM
reply to post by AuranVector

This is nothing but excessive paranoia.

If you believe in such nonsense, then take a look at the ingredient list for your food or the minerals used in your water.

They've been doing this crap to us for years.

Unless you have a lot of illegal activity to hide, what's the point of getting all batty over RFID chips?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 04:09 AM
Required For Idiot Drivers. RFID

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 07:04 AM
If the RFID chip in the RealID is anything like the chip in my credit card, you can just look closely and see a little square indentation on the card. One swift hit with a ball-peen hammer took care of the RFID chip in my card. Since anyone can build or buy a RFID reader for less than $100, identity theft can be of real concern.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 07:36 AM
Good find - and, research.

My current Texas DL has it, but it's more of a holographic image if the light catches it, just right.

I'll go thru the trouble to post a pic, if no one else can confirm when I get back from my trip.

Note: Actually 3 stars, 2 silver, the 3rd metallic(ish), right next to each other, bottom right. tough to see.

S & F.

Cookin' time.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 07:53 AM
Picture deleted for Privacy, My DL has the Gold star in the upper right corner

There is no RFID chip in the card, I've check with a RFID reader, if there were it would had given me some feedback which it didn't and I used a flashlight and didn't see anything that looked like a chip.

I was initially worried about this but after researching this, have found that this star is only used for proof that you are a US citizen and nothing more. Florida did say they were not going to do the Federal Read ID, but passed there own version of the Real ID that mirrors it.......huh? Yea we are that stupid......

Yes, they take your right index fingerprint, and photo but they have to for the license.

I want to see BHO drivers license j/k

Not sure if this will allow me to travel to Canada without a passport as some here are saying...

So far, I haven't used this for anything related to proving I'm a US Citizen. Heck, my employer didn't even know this and still required me to provide my Passport for my I-9 proof of citizen to work for them, so I was like what the H#LL...

edit on 4/7/12 by sirric because: deleted picture

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 08:44 AM
I got a new TX one in this year. Lots of tamper proof stuff, no chip. (Like the pic posted of the TX license)

That seal covers part of the picture and the picture has the birthday embossed on it also. makes it hard to change.
A row with gold, silver and gold stars, but it looks like more tamper proofing over the data.
When held up to a light source, their is an outline of dots in shape of the state of Texas on the right hand side. Kinda cool.

On the back there is a bar code at the top over the mag stripe.

I would like to know what this is...

At the bottom there is a large rectangle of black that looks like a cross between a bar code and a QR code. The are short wavy lines arranged in vertical columns. Guessing it is some type of coding to be scanned.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:29 AM

Originally posted by roadgravel
Found this from 11/2011

Which States offer the Enhanced Drivers License?

New York

States considering implementing an EDL include:

New Hampshire
New Mexico
North Dakota

Do not know how accurate it is...

My State is one of the 25 States that passed legislation rejecting the Real ID Act. It's not on your list. But they have caved. One of the members here posted that it's been tied to Federal money to repair & build roads.

In other words, if you take Fed money to fix & build roads, you have to agree to implement Real ID.

Some States are disguising their Real ID by not calling it that. They are not using the Gold Star and there is no mention of RFID chip in the "Enhanced" card. Sneaky.

At this point, I believe the deadline for full National compliance has been pushed back to 2017. That's when your "Enhanced" Driver's License or ID card becomes officially a Federal ID card. And you will need a Federal ID card to board a US commercial airliner and anything else the Secretary of Homeland Security deems necessary.
It can also be used to cross Canadian & Mexican borders.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:37 AM

Originally posted by Fineousstitch

these are the new Australian licenses

lol niko didnt cover much

Technology is great when it works. Thanks for trying.

Thanks for letting us know Australia is doing this as well, along with the Carbon Tax. I'm sure TPTB will also get their UNrepealable Law of Sea Treaty (LOST). Approving the Carbon Tax & LOST also signals a loss of National Sovereignty. NWO

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Bedlam

Originally posted by knowledgedesired
Chip the card and then make it mandatory for everyone to carry (which they already do) it because you need to drive then you have instant GPS on all driving citizens.

The parts aren't that hard to see. You'll also see either an antenna or a loop, depending on the type of part. If you don't see forks or loops or rectangular dark areas, no chip.

Also, no type of RFID has a GPS receiver in it. Just saying.

"No type of RFID has a GPS receiver in it" -- I hope so. I do not trust TPTB.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:49 AM
I go hunting for meteorites pretty often. Usually have a Very strong magnet on the end of a 4ft pole. Be a shame if that were to get near my license.
Those magnets are so strong, they will pull in a ball bearing from about 18 inches away. No telling what that would do to a chip. I know I'm very very careful not to get them close to a TV or computer.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:51 AM

Originally posted by Beldy

I just got my license renewed a couple weeks ago. I just now used a flashlight and sure as hell there is a "hidden" gold star that mysteriously showed up once the flashlight was used. This is from Texas.
Well LOL.

Anyone tracking me is gonna be one of those dudes or dudettes leaning back on their office chairs snoring away like a chainsaw through a forest.

To those tasked with the job of tracking me:

Hi people!!!!!!!! I hope I make your work interesting!!!
Especially with my litter box cleaning/vacuuming/cleaning the toilets and going to sleep and waking up and back and forth to work everyday. VERY exciting! /sarcasm

Seriously though I do not like this.

I took a pic but didn't post because you can hardly see it. But it's there all right.

It's a circle with a gold star in the middle with some kind of wreath/leaf crap surrounding it.

Here it is with all my crap blocked out.

Sorry not good yet with embedding the actual pic.

Beldy, you did good. I'm wondering if this is the same type of Gold Star that will be used in my State. Not all States are using the same symbol. I think because there has been so much opposition to it.

Did you get a biometric scanning of the face?

Did you pay extra for it?

Is it an "Enhanced" card?

Some here are saying the RFID chip used for the cards cannot track you. I hope they're right.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:57 AM
Michigan here. Just had my license renewed a month ago and no gold star. Also, on the back it actually states that there is no RFID chip in the license.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:58 AM

Originally posted by bhornbuckle75
reply to post by AuranVector

Bhornbuckle75, Brilliant. So true. Some here are not realizing the implications of this.

As an example, in my State, two documents are needed to prove place of residence. It could be a utility bill or a property tax document or a rental contract, etc.

What happens to the people who are homeless? Those living in tents?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:14 AM

Originally posted by misfitoy
reply to post by Beldy

I think that is your 'state seal' for Texas. I have the state seal for California in the same place.

I just got my DL in the mail today (did renewal through internet), When I used the flashlight, I didn't see a golden star, but I did see a hidden outline of the CA bear symbol. This puppy can be swiped, scanned... you name it. The paper that the DL came with says "Introducing the California SecureCard! A new driver license/identification card featuring advanced technology designed to keep your identity secure."

Misfitoy, I think you may be right about that particular star being the Texas State Seal.

If you renewed your license thru the Internet, that means they did NOT do a "Biometric Scanning of the Face" -- that means your card is NOT chipped. You do not have a card that can be used for Federal purposes YET.

California never opposed the Real ID Act.

They have had to push back the date for full national compliance a few times now. I think the new compliance date is 2017.

Some are automatically getting the chipped card when they renew -- there is no "opt out" in my State.

That means biometric scanning of the face, not just a photo.

It also means more documents need to be brought in (in person) to prove you are who you say you are.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Blackjack Baby
reply to post by havok

Florida here. No gold stars or blurb about not using for federal ID on our licenses. Yet.

ETA: i just looked at the DMV site. We got ours in 2008. The REAL ID licenses were issued beginning in 2010, so when we renew, we'll have it.

Thanks for telling us how they're doing it in Florida.

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:19 AM

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by AuranVector
Now I would never advocate anything destructive towards the state, but if I had a little gold star on my drivers license, it might accidently get stuck in the microwave.
*nudge nudge*

Thanks for the tip. But how will an inop RFID chip affect you?

How about not being able to board a US commercial aircraft?

You've puzzled me. Reading the links in your OP, it seems the star is used to certify that the documentation meets up to a required standard and is used because driving licences (using your example) are issued at a state level so may differ throughout North America. It means that someone in another state can see it meets certain requirements. You start off your OP saying you thought 'it's the same as an RFID chip' and by the conclusion of your post you have decided because you think this then it must be?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:26 AM

Originally posted by AuranVector

“Barack Obama (for his Hispanic voters, I'm sure -- my note.) and Ron Paul flatly opposed it,”

What is your point here? Are you saying that Hispanic = illegal immigrant? What other reason would Obama oppose it for Hispanic voters other than any other kind of voter?

posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:39 AM

Originally posted by wewillnotcomply666
Look up "Smart Dust" . RFID chips are a thing of the past , a useless piece of garbage lol . this stuff can basically be ingested (unknowingly)

RFID chips will still be used in the foreseeable future.

Smart Dust (“autonomous sensing and communications in a cubic millimeter”)was developed for DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency).

So now they’ve been trying since 1998 to create “wireless sensor nodes with a volume of a cubic centimeter” and have SUCCEEDED in creating “a working mote smaller than a grain of rice.”

Things developed for DARPA, generally speaking, do not give me warm fuzzies.

Some scientists are saying this is not an immediate threat to our privacy.

Give it enough time, it will be.

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