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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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Warning
The stronger you guys push this, the nearer you will come to socialist/communist model. Be warned.

I for one, already gave this a deep thought and I become a communist believer and supporter.
Although a communist supporter, I have to surrender to my current situation and environment, thus its just my political ideal, I still have to adopt and live the capitalist way.

I'm the one who jumping around happily and yelling "Keep Selling Euro" while at the same time they are throwing stones in Greece.
Am I evil ? No. Everyone adopt capitalist since the beginning, I just follow.

“Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws." --- the best quote


Money is a primary factor that drives capitalist, thus it fits if you are doomed by money, because you choose capitalist.

Money is a crediting tool, it HAVE to exist in some form, yet capitalist use it as influence, power and wealth ability. With socialist, its still just a tool. If you understand that, you are 1 step closer to socialist. Be warned.




posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Screwed
It is all well and good to get online and go on and on about the bankers and how "if we don't DO something"
we're all going to be screwed but unless YOU are doing something then I don't want to hear it.

Do you know what needs to be done?
It has NOTHING to do with "the bankers".

It is the money!!!!
It was always the God Damned money!!!!

Until YOU are ready to start giving freely without the expectation of MONEY then we are all screwed.
When you give of yourself,when you FREELY give YOUR time,energy,skills,and talents to those who seek them out then it makes ME want to do the same.

When you and I are doing this,
others will take notice.
When others take notice we all start doing it.
When we all start doing it, we establish a norm.

When a norm has been established, money begins to lose its power and influence on us.
When we all start giving freely, money will be no more, bankers will no longer exist, and we will finally have earned our freedom.

It all starts with YOU my friend.


All prostitutes pay attention to this comment, it's important.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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"...turn Europe into the same debt ridden squalor as the U.S."

Not all, but most of Europe is right in lockstep with the U.S. When it comes to debt. Most people don't understand that the debt number alone isn't a useful measure of your degree of indebtedness. Debt to GDP ratio is what matters. There are certain countries in Europe in relatively good shape, others not so much. You don't look at a guy earning $15M a year with a $15M mortgage and say "man that guy is living in debt-ridden squalor", but you do look at someone earning $25k/year with $80k in credit card debt as living in debt-ridden squalor. So the guy with more debt is in better shape? Absolutely, because his income and net worth are higher.

Quick research will show you that the U.S. Is in lockstep with most of western Europe. It will also show you that the U.S. Ratio has been much worse in the past, and came back down over the following decades. Granted, that was before the Beggar Kings (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and Obama) rocketed the debt upward, but it still is nowhere near approaching the ratios of the 1940's, and the ratio has aready leveled off, most likely turning downward in the next year or two.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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I don't know about you guys, but I earned my tinfoil hat already. I have been trying to spread the word for years. People don't want to know, or they already would.... Why do you think places like this exist? So people like us can talk to like minded people, because most people don't want to hear it. Anyone could know what we do, if they chose to, it's the age of the internet.

The only way anything will change is if it gets much worse. But we all know that is when the "problem solvers", who are also the problem makers step in to save the day
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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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Thanks for sharing bro...

Second line... well I better add something else I guess!

That to me is what really reflects the real meaning of the law of attraction, not the shod new agey stuff I see. But what you said there is real, to the point and dam awesome. And just incase no-one knows what the heck I am talking about, go back to page 1, and re-read Screwed posts about the restaurant!



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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There is an old riddle about power whose answer goes something like this - From George R.R. Martin's "A Song of Ice and Fire" (Game of Thrones)

"Power resides where men believes it resides, no more no less."

If "the gods", those who control the money, politicians, etc., all "wield power", with what force do they wield said power? It is only through the belief in their power, given to them by the people, that they wield. If the U.S. Military chose not to act when commanded to, our leaders would not be able to make war. If everyone ceased believing in God, religions would hold no sway, and if everyone decided to live in communes, money and the threat of no money would not be a factor. We - collectively - give power to those we choose to give power to. Unfortunately, all to often we give that power to the wrong people/forces, usually because we are lead to do so, and then usually out of fear.

Yoda was right.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by dogstar23
reply to post by chemistry
 


"...turn Europe into the same debt ridden squalor as the U.S."

Not all, but most of Europe is right in lockstep with the U.S. When it comes to debt. Most people don't understand that the debt number alone isn't a useful measure of your degree of indebtedness. Debt to GDP ratio is what matters. There are certain countries in Europe in relatively good shape, others not so much. You don't look at a guy earning $15M a year with a $15M mortgage and say "man that guy is living in debt-ridden squalor", but you do look at someone earning $25k/year with $80k in credit card debt as living in debt-ridden squalor. So the guy with more debt is in better shape? Absolutely, because his income and net worth are higher.

Quick research will show you that the U.S. Is in lockstep with most of western Europe. It will also show you that the U.S. Ratio has been much worse in the past, and came back down over the following decades. Granted, that was before the Beggar Kings (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and Obama) rocketed the debt upward, but it still is nowhere near approaching the ratios of the 1940's, and the ratio has aready leveled off, most likely turning downward in the next year or two.


Some interesting points raised here. Thank you for this.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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The only way I see enough people waking up and coming together is if something like this happens first. People are very hard to change, most never do. So at least here in the usa I think only after everyone wakes up with no money or job, or food, or way of getting any of those things, that the masses will collectively rise up. It will have to be forced. That is just my thinking from what I've seen my whole life compared to now. These power outages and food/gas shortages are an example because its a huge number of people and it shows just how much work this country needs. Meanwhile the money is being spent elsewhere



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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This is nothing new and has been happening for centuries the only difference between then and now is today we know first hand what's happening! Yet we do nothing about it! Today is supposed to be independence day but i don't see it as being such, especially when i see a world devoid of accountability, ethics, equality and freedom! We the people are only just a commodity for the banks, health care, government and basically all industry! Until we realize, we have to stand united against this, to bring down consumerism, excess, debt slavery, ecological destruction and all wasteful industry that brings nothing to the world of necessities, for what is needed to live a productive life! All we really need, is shelter, clean food, water, energy and purpose! These things are all that is needed and all other luxuries are trivial!
We love our children but not enough to ensure their future! With this kind of reality it's no wonder we are all so intent on screwing each other over! We talk alot about politics as if there was any chance of anyone
ever getting into office and changing anything to make it a world worth saving! We watch as those with real attributes for identifying social stratification are murdered by nobodies yet do we really believe that these misguided individuals are alone in their crimes? This must stop but I don't see enough patriots willing to make the sacrifices necessary to begin the actions needed to do this! I don't know if this will ever happen but i do know
if we continue to persue this illogical way of solving our social problems we will not have anything in the end but destruction, pollution and death while whomever is left lives a life of servitude to the children of the elite! This I can promise will happen!
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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Originally posted by dogstar23
reply to post by chemistry
 


"...turn Europe into the same debt ridden squalor as the U.S."

Not all, but most of Europe is right in lockstep with the U.S. When it comes to debt. Most people don't understand that the debt number alone isn't a useful measure of your degree of indebtedness. Debt to GDP ratio is what matters. There are certain countries in Europe in relatively good shape, others not so much. You don't look at a guy earning $15M a year with a $15M mortgage and say "man that guy is living in debt-ridden squalor", but you do look at someone earning $25k/year with $80k in credit card debt as living in debt-ridden squalor. So the guy with more debt is in better shape? Absolutely, because his income and net worth are higher.

Quick research will show you that the U.S. Is in lockstep with most of western Europe. It will also show you that the U.S. Ratio has been much worse in the past, and came back down over the following decades. Granted, that was before the Beggar Kings (Reagan, Bush I, Bush II, and Obama) rocketed the debt upward, but it still is nowhere near approaching the ratios of the 1940's, and the ratio has aready leveled off, most likely turning downward in the next year or two.


GDP is not a good measure of a countries health! If most of our GDP comes by weapons production, healthcare, federal, state and service sector jobs then their is no real money coming into the nation because of a lack of any production base! I think that the US is the most unhealthy it has ever been but this is only my opinion!
I don't see us recovering anytime soon! Not until we start producing more then just debt!



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:34 AM
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Universal strikes by all the working class and closure of bank accounts, a waste of time asking the middle & higher classes, but we'd be enough = total collapse of the system.

Simple enough solution, problem is where do we go from there??



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:41 AM
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We only have one choice.It is time for a run on the banks.Go take out all your money.Without their money they have no power.July 5th if we start the run will be our true independence day.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by emberscott

Originally posted by chemistry
otherwsie we all WILL become debt-slaves



Become? You already are. What makes you believe you are not?


The only thing the banks fear.Is a run on them.July 5th if we do it will be our true independence day.Start the run on the banks.Don't pay them a dime.It will cause some hard times for us but they have left us with no choice.What are they going to do arrest and evict everyone?The people won't stand for it.Lets take our country back without violance.Close them down.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by rockymcgilicutty

Originally posted by emberscott

Originally posted by chemistry
otherwsie we all WILL become debt-slaves



Become? You already are. What makes you believe you are not?


The only thing the banks fear.Is a run on them.July 5th if we do it will be our true independence day.Start the run on the banks.Don't pay them a dime.It will cause some hard times for us but they have left us with no choice.What are they going to do arrest and evict everyone?The people won't stand for it.Lets take our country back without violance.Close them down.


and it's nice that you have covered all the consequences that would happen if this occured. hard times for us?...why not seek a solution that would cause THEM the hard times? the wealthy have contigency plans



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 10:58 AM
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To those who think "no money" is the solution tell my why anyone would bother going to work anymore? Especially those jobs like fixing the sewers, repairing roads, cleaning buildings - really, who is going to "volunteer" to do those things?
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Human beings who understand their role and responsibility in their society, that's who.
Just because YOU can't wrap YOUR head around an idea doesn't make it a 'bad' idea.
It only means that YOU are ignorant of the true nature of man and lack understanding of
who we are in our natural state.

If you want a direct answer to your question then here it is.

I WOULD!

You are a slave to the idea of money.
You won't hear of any other way.
There HAS to be money and that is it, period right??

Well, you're in good company my friend.
We shall see just how far your money will get you here soon when the dollar collapses.
You will be forced to give SO THAT you can get, which is a bastardization of the way it needs to be.

Whether you can wrap your head around it or not makes no difference.
Until we ALL start giving freely, we will ALL be slaves to this system.
The more of your precious money you have, the bigger your cell gets and the more perks you get but,
it's all a big prison just the same.

People who are married to and stuck on the idea of money are focused on just this.
They say

"HEY"!!
"If we didn't have money, then how are we supposed to afford a bigger cell? Tell me that Mr. Smarty pants Hippy dude. And how do we earn more time in the yard? and what about longer and hotter showers? Did you even think of that? I didn't even mention cigarrettes. How am I supposed to get my smokes? Without money we wouldn't be able to get any of these things."!!!

You have your focus on the money and how we can't live without it.
My focus is getting the F out of prison!!!!!
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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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I've said it before.. it's time to act. Now.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by Screwed
Until YOU are ready to start giving freely without the expectation of MONEY then we are all screwed.
When you give of yourself,when you FREELY give YOUR time,energy,skills,and talents to those who seek them out then it makes ME want to do the same.

When you and I are doing this,
others will take notice.
When others take notice we all start doing it.
When we all start doing it, we establish a norm.

When a norm has been established, money begins to lose its power and influence on us.
When we all start giving freely, money will be no more, bankers will no longer exist, and we will finally have earned our freedom.


You make a very interesting point, which I'd like to expand upon...

If we all were willing to volunteer our time, energy, skills, and talents there would be no need for the nanny government, saving probably hundreds of billions in tax revenue, and taking power out of the hands of the politicians, who actually belong to the banksters, and at the same time make us richer.

I contend that the government doesn't want us to volunteer anything.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by NullVoid
Warning
The stronger you guys push this, the nearer you will come to socialist/communist model. Be warned.

I for one, already gave this a deep thought and I become a communist believer and supporter.


Sorry, wrong. Those of us who have given this deeper thought and are old enough to remember the Soviet Union, know that Communism was a complete failure as proven by history. Socialism retards innovation, and encourages lazyness in it's people, as well as it's government.

The Capitalist system only needs to be repaired, not replaced. Make central banks illegal as in The Constitution: problem solved.



posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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I contend that the government doesn't want us to volunteer anything.



Right you are.




What would you do if you came across someone on the street that had not had anything to eat for several days? Would you give that person some food? Well, the next time you get that impulse you might want to check if it is still legal to feed the homeless where you live. Sadly, feeding the homeless has been banned in major cities all over America. Other cities that have not banned it outright have put so many requirements on those that want to feed the homeless (acquiring expensive permits, taking food preparation courses, etc.) that feeding the homeless has become "out of reach" for most average people. Some cities are doing these things because they are concerned about the "health risks" of the food being distributed by ordinary "do-gooders". Other cities are passing these laws because they do not want homeless people congregating in city centers where they know that they will be fed. But at a time when poverty and government dependence are soaring to unprecedented levels, is it really a good idea to ban people from helping those that are hurting?

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You can expect to see more and more rediculous legislation like this passed because the people who run the world (bankers) know that the biggest threat to their power and control is 'Love' and 'Giving'. And when you love, you give.
When you love you aren't fearful. The two can not exist together. Love will always win out over fear.

For people who have built and empire based on 'Fear' and 'taking' this is a big problem.
They will try to outlaw 'Love' if you can imagine such a rediculous idea.
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posted on Jul, 4 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by AntiNWO
[The Capitalist system only needs to be repaired, not replaced. Make central banks illegal as in The Constitution: problem solved.


Exactly. That is the device that has enabled the elite to steal everything. They knew exactly what they were doing in 1913.


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