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Wildfires, Executive Orders and Federal Land

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posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 02:26 AM
The basis of this thread is simple yet complex.

In the "executive order" which has been placed many times by many presidents that states, that in a national emergency the federal government can seize many farms, assets, properties for the greater good.

"Natural or man made disasters" or "wildfires" that cause mass panic, displaced civilians, cities and states to receive federal funds in order to combat such events.

(Example: 9/11, Katrina etc.)

"Federal Land" and it's efforts to obtain such land and authority over the states.

(Example: the Pinon Canyon fire in Colorado was disputed over before between the Federal Government and the state of Colorado including mainly residents who owned private property in the disputed area in which they wish to use to expand Ft. Carson and surrounding facilities, ironically the disputed land later became the subject of a large but arguably a controlled grass fire, taking down residents homes in its path, to which the ones to combat the fires where given orders to either suspend operations while also not letting residents back to their homes. This was fairly tame as compared to the recent Waldo Canyon fire)

When the constitution was drafted it was done in such a way that allows the States the ability to govern according to their own individual needs, the Federal takeover of land allows the Federal Government to undermine or over ride the rights of all states. By declaring a national emergency of some kind, the Federal Government could step in and seize land amongst many other things according to the executive order.

There are many maps available that show the Federal Land that has been taken from the states, many in the west. Theres an obvious, explanation, theres gold in them hills. Among other things.

posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 02:30 AM
So the government can just seize the land indefinitely and not provide any reasons for not giving the land back to the rightful owners?

posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 02:55 AM
reply to post by taccj9903

Good question. One I can not answer but you are getting to the meat on the bone of this subject that I would like to explore.

This executive order as exhibit A

Note that similar executive orders have been signed previously by other presidents, however post 9/11 the language of the bill has been changed to include Homeland Security, an organization that did not exist prior to 9/11

Exhibit B is the map or any other maps others may present showing federal ownership of land. This could include National Parks or for example the corridor in Arizona in which many illegal aliens enter the US as it is deemed a Native American Reservation area care of the Federal Government, therefor it limits the state of Arizona from using its own authority to use its own authority as a state.

Exhibit C is any event or disaster be it man made or natural disaster in which the Federal Government is involved, becomes involved or steps in and extends help or authority of some sort, please refer the the map for clarification and to identify a pattern.

Does the Federal Government have the authority to do this? I don't know, certainly don't think thats the case but this is the meat on the bone of the subject I would like to further examine and explore.

posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 01:23 PM

Originally posted by taccj9903
So the government can just seize the land indefinitely and not provide any reasons for not giving the land back to the rightful owners?

worked for the ancestors of your so called "rightful owners" when dealing with the natives

karma can be funny that way

even your life doesn't belong to you, if darth oreo or whatever POS is sitting in the WH
decides to have you killed

posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 02:42 PM
Nothing to say such fires are not deliberate.Agenda 21 and all that.

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