It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Abrahamic Demonisation of 'the others'

page: 1
2

log in

join
share:

posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 05:58 PM
link   
Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed by a god but by volcanic activity, mostly earthquakes and sulphar and ash deposits. However, the destroyed cities were capitalised upon by the ancient Hebrews (and still to this day by Jews, Christians and Muslims); the inhabitants were demonised and used as scapegoats in order to instill fear in the believers of the Abrahamic religions. It is a possibility that the inhabitants were perfectly decent people living their lives but that their reputations, in death, have been destroyed for millenia.

I believe the time has come to exonerate the people of Sodom and Gomorrah and to realise the crime commited against them when sorrow at the loss of human life would have been the humane response.

The current memorial of the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah, I believe, says more about the goings-on of the ancient Hebrews and, given the verses in the Koran, also the Muslims: divine warnings are needed for existing problems.

www.miraclesofthequran.com...

'It appears that this people, who lived to the north of the Red Sea, was destroyed in a manner compatible with the description in the Qur'an. Archaeological excavations have revealed that the city lay close to the Dead Sea on the present-day Israeli-Jordanian border. According to scientists, the area is covered in large deposits of sulphur. For this reason, no life in the form of animals or plants is to be found there and the region stands as a symbol of destruction. Sulphur is an element which appears as a result of volcanic eruptions. Indeed, there is clear evidence in the Qur'an that the method of destruction was earthquake and volcanic eruptions'

Genesis 19:24 Then the Lord rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah —from the Lord out of the heavens. 25 Thus he overthrew those cities and the entire plain, destroying all those living in the cities—and also the vegetation in the land. 26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.



[img]http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=mount+vesuvius+statues&um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=587&tbm=isch&tbnid=GbiHWB-fHMGcvM:&imgrefurl=http://www.h2g2.com/ approved_entry/A28303968&docid=MH59eUb5dXF_jM&imgurl=http://h2g2.com/h2g2/blobs/vesuvius_promo.jpg&w=202&h=202&ei=cyfyT6qKCYPS0QXI-tjgDQ&zoom=1&iact=h c&vpx=120&vpy=159&dur=90&hovh=161&hovw=161&tx=116&ty=71&sig=111741030271726075360&page=1&tbnh=125&tbnw=125&start=0&ndsp=23&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0,i:70[/im g]



edit on 2-7-2012 by TheFogHorn because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 06:12 PM
link   
reply to post by TheFogHorn
 



26 But Lot’s wife looked back, and she became a pillar of salt.


Did you know that "pillar of salt" could easily have been a figure of speech meaning "transfixed in thought" or something similar? Yep. And based on these findings, it's no wonder. Lava or no, you gotta stop for a second when you see an exploding volcano. It's a beautiful sight, and it's about to consume everything you ever loved...

Just one more example of how people take their Bible way too seriously. All over a volcano? And now the peaceful gays of today have to deal with your idiot interpretations, hmm? Right.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 06:36 PM
link   
So first people attack the actual places and people in the bible as never having existed.

few years of research shows most of these places are inf act real, and the people existed.

So attacking the actually existence of biblical places fails, along with attacking the existence of the rulers.

So next, figure go for the cause of the events listed... try to explain it away with natural causes....

So let me ask, at which point who is the one reaching...

The theist or the Atheist ?



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 08:57 PM
link   
reply to post by benrl
 


I believe if a Theist were searching for the truth, it would be in his best interest to use the science available in his time to determine that truth, even if it may effect the literal interpretation of his religious text. There is nothing incompatible with understanding the scientific explanation for the workings of God. The bible never said how God did anything. Knowing the science behind the workings of a miracle do not disprove that they are a miracle.

A theist would see evidence of a God, an atheist would not.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 09:08 PM
link   
reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


ust one more example of how people take their Bible way too seriously. All over a volcano? And now the peaceful gays of today have to deal with your idiot interpretations, hmm? Right.

What? To whose "idiot interpretations" are you referring, please?

Yes, people take their Bible "way too seriously", but FogHorn is not one of "those people".
Wow



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 12:50 AM
link   
reply to post by stonergeek
 





I believe if a Theist were searching for the truth, it would be in his best interest to use the science available in his time to determine that truth



Really, fine, whats the origin of the universe, did it always exist or is it the big bang?

Will the universe end in heat death or the big crunch?

What is the driving factor in genetic mutation and evolution, is it random mutation or is there stronger environmental causes?

What causes gravity?

Is the standard model correct?

What is the unified theory?

Is the simulation model the answer?


Its more silly to declare a side, Agnostic is probably the smart answer, Atheist know just as Much as the Theist, and both are just as damn sure they are right.

The wise man knows how little we really know .



posted on Jul, 3 2012 @ 06:44 AM
link   

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by AfterInfinity
 


ust one more example of how people take their Bible way too seriously. All over a volcano? And now the peaceful gays of today have to deal with your idiot interpretations, hmm? Right.

What? To whose "idiot interpretations" are you referring, please?

Yes, people take their Bible "way too seriously", but FogHorn is not one of "those people".
Wow


Saying it mildly


I think gays around the world would be dancing in the streets if they knew Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed due to their inhabitants being gay. It must be quite hard being a gay kid growing up knowing most other people were being threatened with a horrible death and a permanently sore afterlife due to being what they are. I can't quite understand how the church/mosque can get away with it.
edit on 3-7-2012 by TheFogHorn because: (no reason given)



new topics

top topics



 
2

log in

join