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posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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I am asking every reader to think about a plan. A plan that will effectivly replace our entire government. I am asking for a plan to take back our country from the grips of greed and the corrupt. Whatever your opinion on our current President is not important, nor are his puppet masters. The fact is they must all get out. If we were to do this, and to save our country... WE MUST. What would be the best plan of action, who will step up and dedicate there lives to the restoration of our constitution? Who is qualified? Who can we trust? Where do we start? What will happen when we do? How can we use our collective power and knowledge to restore the republic? Will there be civil war? Will we Fail? What are our options, and most of all, What can I do to help?




posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Write your reps, get your voice heard.

Despite what we all say here, the truth is, if enough of us cared, and used the existing system to implement change we could.

People are lazy, that would require getting off ATS, calling people, sending mail, uniting your community and making friends.

ANd heres the key.

Inspect what you expect, its one of the first thing I learned in Management.

If we send these people to D.C. and pay them, than guess what, Ride their asses when they mess up, call their offices, mail them.

But again that requires constant vigilance and the willingness to take the first step, cant have that though cause we gotta watch american Idol.

They don't need any huge over conspiracy to keep us outta of politics, they have tv, it does the job for them.


They get away with it all because only the Extreme right or Left is passionate, they pander to the fringes, the 10-30 percent that actually votes, think about that, that is the percentage that actually gave a rats ass enough to move their fat asses off the couch and vote.

Meanwhile you know the rest of America, the normal people are subdued into inaction.
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posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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My woo-woo plan to save the world would save this country too. A psychic populace can't be fooled by lies and can't be tempted by greed and can't be scared by illness or bodily harm or war.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Of course a psychic populace is the last thing TPTB would want. Lucky for them the taboo against parapsychology in mainstream science is so strong.


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posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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And theres the perfect example of what I said.




My woo-woo plan to save the world would save this country too. A psychic populace can't be fooled by lies and can't be tempted by greed and can't be scared by illness or bodily harm or war.


Im gonna wait for a miracle plan, because I can't be bothered.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Unfortunately, in most historical cases I'm aware of, rebellion leads to dictatorships and fascist regimes that use police state tactics to hold onto power that they are constantly in fear of losing.

Its a simple matter that everyone thinks their side, or they themselves, should run things. Generally the side with the most power wins, and has to use force to keep the other groups suppressed.

The exception to that is if there is outside source, such as the UN, that keeps this from occurring.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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We know change is coming... And not the obama change, but the american change of ownership. What if we brought in a whole new body of government, elected by the people in a private manner (keep government out). We would need a lot of dedicated work and resorces. We could remove current government from the picture. It would be like year one of America. We need a Washington, we need to unite. We need to ignore current government and restore the constitution. We have the right. It is at this point almost a duty. We need to set a goal, Then we need to make plans to succeed the goal. We could start by.... then we can.... then we will....?



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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If you want real change, real legitimate change then the first thing that needs to be done is to quit voting party lines. The first issue this nation needs to care about is campaign finance, and the revolving door between regulators and the private industries they regulate. Anything other than this being priority one will bring more of the same.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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Unfortunately, in most historical cases I'm aware of, rebellion leads to dictatorships and fascist regimes that use police state tactics to hold onto power that they are constantly in fear of losing.


Right except for the most obvious example you exclude, the American Revolution, unless your dismissing the years of prosperity for the end result we see now?

but sure advocate a more powerful world gov with the power to remove leaders from other countries on whims.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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That was sort of a rare case. Pretty much everyone chose one side or the other (Rebels or England), and the people who were in charge were generally the folks who were already in positions of power in the country.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by KeliOnyx
If you want real change, real legitimate change then the first thing that needs to be done is to quit voting party lines. The first issue this nation needs to care about is campaign finance, and the revolving door between regulators and the private industries they regulate. Anything other than this being priority one will bring more of the same.


If you want real change, the first thing that needs to be done is to quit identifying with the ego-self. We need to let go of this fantasy of materialism and transcend the ego-self so that we can get in touch with a higher level of consciousness.

The ego-self got us into this mess. To get out of it we need to transcend it, we need to think outside the box. Not play more games in the same primitive level of consciousness that got us into this mess.

Collective Consciousness and Cultural Healing

Sorry if this is a bit 'out there' for the mind that is used to thinking on a mere political level.


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posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


~Preamble to the Constitution for the United States of America~

Is this what you want to replace? We the People, is that what you want to replace? What the hell is wrong with you?

We have a federal Constitution in place that places express prohibitions on that government. Every state within the republic has a state Constitution in place that places express prohibitions on that government. Yet, even with these express prohibitions in place, We the People have granted our local, state, and federal governments power they were never granted Constitutionally.

The FDA, EPA, EEOC, FAA, FCC, FTC, SEC, USDA, FDIC, ICC, NLRB, NRC, OSHA, and the Federal Reserve are all administrative agencies regulating the daily lives of We the People and their existence is not expressly granted by any Constitution and it is dubious that there is any implicit grant of power for these agencies, but We the People have done business with theses agencies, either directly or indirectly.

On a state level, every state declares that driving is a "privilege" not a right, but the whole purpose We the People established these Constitutions was to ensure that governments did not trample all over our rights, but what have We the People done? Why stood in line for hours on end at a DMV to beg the state for permission to exercise a right. We the People have surrendered the bill of sale (proof of ownership) for our automobiles in exchange for a "title of registration" instead of asserting our unalienable right to own a vehicle and drive it.

We the People have without question, without ever questioning if we were indeed liable for, and if we were, how it was we became liable for this so called "income" tax, and instead we just simply fork over our hard earned cash without ever even bothering to ask what the subject of the goddamned tax is and you want people to come up with a plan after you and your ilk crap all over our Constitution and overthrow We the People?

Tired of tyranny? Stop acquiescing! Stand tall as an individual and assert your rights and demand government obey the rule of law....but if you think you'll just wait for a massive uprising of ignoramuses that have no understanding of the rule of law, then settle into your couch, pop the popcorn, keep the refrigerator stocked and enjoy your home entertainment center and spend a life time waiting.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Yet it is the one case that is American, So the ONE time the US had a Rebellion it ended well.

So perhaps if the American people followed the same path that was laid for them by the people that you know, Actually accomplished a successful revolution. ( and I mean follow the Constitution and the rules for government they laid out)

Well we just might be OKay.


ALL of these things in the middle east have one goal, and one goal only. Mark my word, this will lead to a stronger UN with Nato as its police.

Wait your questioning the UN, oh all of a sudden you have reports of your GOV killing Civs, and than rebels funded from out of your own country.

Than the UN steps in and removes your ass...

No one cares about Innocent death, and anyone on here that claims this is what its about is talking out there ass.

What about all the other Atrocities that happen daily that get ignored? If that happens than you have to ask why are they pointing out this one?
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posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:37 PM
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I doubt it now. There are too many different opinions of what the government is supposed to be. You have those who feel the government should butt out of everyone's business, and you have those who feel its the governments job to give them everything, then you have those in the middle. Pretty much stretch that across every topic imaginable, and you'd have the mess we'd be left with. You cannot trust the elite to take on the yoke like you did in the American Revolution, considering that they are the ones causing the majority of the problems today.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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Originally posted by defcon5
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I doubt it now. There are too many different opinions of what the government is supposed to be. You have those who feel the government should butt out of everyone's business, and you have those who feel its the governments job to give them everything, then you have those in the middle. Pretty much stretch that across every topic imaginable, and you'd have the mess we'd be left with. You cannot trust the elite to take on the yoke like you did in the American Revolution, considering that they are the ones causing the majority of the problems today.


Yea, but again you have but 40% at most of the eligiable pop voting, you have a VERY VERY small group of americans voting.

Say an even split of 20% for dem or rep.

Again a gross over simplification but works for this purpose.

SO any of the Big two parties is supported by the Fringe 20% of america with extreme views, those motivated to actually do something.

SO 20% gets to decide what the rest of us have to deal with because people are lazy.

You get teh Extreme right and left on the MSM because THOSE are the only people Voting.

Thats why things are the way they are.

NO revolution needed AT ALL, Just need to turn off the tv, and Get the Populace to actually give a crap.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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In that situation you would not be able to trust the voting, so I'm not sure what good voting would do. It takes a governing body just to regulate voting, yet with no governing body you want to trust what comes from those elections? The US is a lot bigger place then it was back in the 1700's. However,simply look at what has happened after most all revolutions historically where there is no third-party oversight. China, Cuba, Russia, etc... ad infinitum...



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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What if we started by creating a Church for patriots that marries Liberty with The American Mind, birthing the Sons and Daughters of Liberty. These educated, poor, hardworking, honest, aggressive, rich, and determined freedom loving Americans from all across the land may meet and bond over a common goal. Informed and eager to restore their republic, let them inform others so that they may inform others. We need to make a network of informed, ready Americans, we need to accomplish Unity. That is a goal. Finding a way to connect patriots, to unite them, give all of us the opportunity to teach each other. The new trend for all you sheep is.... Fight to restore the republic. If people respond to trends then lets get trendy and make America the country it is supposed to be. Step one?



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Sorry if this is a bit 'out there' for the mind that is used to thinking on a mere political level.


If you want to ride your high horse in a site filled with high horse men you better learn to keep up. Your new aged dressing attempting to disguise the same old collectivist crap is so transparent it is pathetic.

What good is transcending the "ego-self" if no attempt is made to even acknowledge the id? Unless your answer is that we leave our bodies and function on a physical realm in some other way, your mindless and poorly thought out philosophy is useless. If you are suggesting we "transcend the ego-self" while remaining in our bodies, you damn well better consider what to do with that id of yours.



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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I'm not sure what good voting would do.


Right because of all the voting fraud that takes place when such a small percentile of eligible voters vote...

Almost like they want us to think that if we got together and tried it wouldn't work right?

I wonder why they keep selling that on the MSM... because if even if there is 10% voter fraud, if the 70 percent that didn't vote decided to might put a dent in all those fraudulent efforts...

But again your right, we absolutely need a ONE world government capable of replacing our leaders at the drop of a hat...



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


~Preamble to the Constitution for the United States of America~

Is this what you want to replace? We the People, is that what you want to replace? What the hell is wrong with you?

We have a federal Constitution in place that places express prohibitions on that government. Every state within the republic has a state Constitution in place that places express prohibitions on that government. Yet, even with these express prohibitions in place, We the People have granted our local, state, and federal governments power they were never granted Constitutionally.

The FDA, EPA, EEOC, FAA, FCC, FTC, SEC, USDA, FDIC, ICC, NLRB, NRC, OSHA, and the Federal Reserve are all administrative agencies regulating the daily lives of We the People and their existence is not expressly granted by any Constitution and it is dubious that there is any implicit grant of power for these agencies, but We the People have done business with theses agencies, either directly or indirectly.

On a state level, every state declares that driving is a "privilege" not a right, but the whole purpose We the People established these Constitutions was to ensure that governments did not trample all over our rights, but what have We the People done? Why stood in line for hours on end at a DMV to beg the state for permission to exercise a right. We the People have surrendered the bill of sale (proof of ownership) for our automobiles in exchange for a "title of registration" instead of asserting our unalienable right to own a vehicle and drive it.

We the People have without question, without ever questioning if we were indeed liable for, and if we were, how it was we became liable for this so called "income" tax, and instead we just simply fork over our hard earned cash without ever even bothering to ask what the subject of the goddamned tax is and you want people to come up with a plan after you and your ilk crap all over our Constitution and overthrow We the People?

Tired of tyranny? Stop acquiescing! Stand tall as an individual and assert your rights and demand government obey the rule of law....but if you think you'll just wait for a massive uprising of ignoramuses that have no understanding of the rule of law, then settle into your couch, pop the popcorn, keep the refrigerator stocked and enjoy your home entertainment center and spend a life time waiting.


If only a few of us did this we would only lose. We would have to unite, or We true Americans who disobey the BULL# laws, cages on our freedom, our shackles and our ball with chains. How come I have not made a change? I dont pay taxes, I work, I contribute to our society as well as our economy and I do not keep Auto/health insurance "only because I am mandated to" or I would love to have some insurance. I could go to jail.. and then what?



posted on Jul, 2 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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If only a few of us did this we would only lose.


The few who all ready do do this, and properly so, are not losing. The only possible way they could lose is by including themselves in your "we" and then yes, you're right, "we" lose. Who wants to hang out with a bunch of losers?



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