William Coates--Hitler Connection

I was searching through ATS and was actually surprised no one has brought this up only in passing. Aside from the Bush Connection does anyone know of any other sources for this claim?

I find it odd that

March 2, 2004; Clinton, MD ( AP) -- In the week since William Coates' death, his family has been arranging a funeral befitting a man purported to have lived for 114 years, which, if true, would have ranked him among the oldest people in the United States. But U.S. Census records indicate that Coates, who had been celebrated for his age in news stories and public proclamations, was no older than 92 when he died February 24th.

They would be wrong by 22 years and

None of Coates' relatives claimed he was 114 when he died last week. Rather, they have said they knew few details of his life. And they reacted Monday to the Census records with the same exasperation they expressed over the attention given to him upon his death. "I'm leaving it as it is," said Ann Hazel, 67, a Niece. As for her Uncle's purported age of 114, Hazel said, "Everyone who was older than me said he was about that age."

It is unclear who initially asserted that Coates was born in 1889. Irving H. Smith, Director of a Prince George's Senior Citizens Center who hosts an annual celebration for centenarians, has asserted that Coates was the county's oldest citizen. He said he based this on conversations with Coates' relatives and on records at the Clinton Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, where Coates spent his last years. The home confirmed that its records list Coates' birth date as June 2, 1889. But it's not clear where that information came from. " To be honest," Smith said, " about the only fact we know for sure is that he's dead."

William Coates

Also there doesnt seem to be any photos taken of him that i can find.

Just wanted to know your thoughts, if there is any credence to this i'm scared to think about all the other connections going as far back as the late 1880's

This will maybe sound stupid...but..didn't the man have an ID or something ? Or was he living the last 50 years of the 20th century without any papers or records or anything?

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
This will maybe sound stupid...but..didn't the man have an ID or something ? Or was he living the last 50 years of the 20th century without any papers or records or anything?

Thats exactly my point. It is strange isnt it?

reply to post by Whatifitdidhappen

if there is any credence to this i'm scared to think about all the other connections going as far back as the late 1880's

Can you please elaborate further what you meant by this remark?

Originally posted by MarioOnTheFly
reply to post by Whatifitdidhappen

 

if there is any credence to this i'm scared to think about all the other connections going as far back as the late 1880's

Can you please elaborate further what you meant by this remark?

Basically Nikola Tesla all the way up to 1941 (the first phily test), 1943 (events surrounding Teslas death) foo fighters, John Joseph O' Neil (and death), project paper clip, the steel penny and phily experiment, the inception of the CIA and its programs, J.P. Morgan and Bush overthrow attempt (J.P. and Tesla), The Bush lineage, JFK assination, 9/11, The patriot act (and other similar acts since), Rockefeller and Rothschild, Oil Companies, The free market (derivatives) (and attacks repulsed), National Banks, Libya Gold Dinar, Gaddafi, The rich get richer and the poor get poorer, Suppression of Tesla's name in text books and msm in regards to his accomplishments

It may just be me overthinking it....but theres alot to consider

I followed both links and I may have missed something.

What does the unknown age of this man have to do with Hitler connections? I've seen nothing that talks about anything of the sort.

Please point me in the right direction if I passed over the info.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
I followed both links and I may have missed something.

What does the unknown age of this man have to do with Hitler connections? I've seen nothing that talks about anything of the sort.

Please point me in the right direction if I passed over the info.

The only connection i have is this

Which can also be found here .pdf

But this is the only reference i've found is the supposed testimony of Otto Skorzeny. I was wondering if any other connections could be made.

reply to post by Whatifitdidhappen

I have to admit that I have never heard of this theory before. Of course, the most popular theory is that he fled to Argentina along with thousands of other Nazis and died some time later.

The link you provided shows a picture in which Hitler is caught in part of the view. You can see the left side of this persons head and the left ear is very easy to see. From the pics I have seen of Hitler he had a very "distinct" looking left ear and the link's pic does not look like Hitler's ear at all.

I am not a photo expert, so I could be wrong but I will have to look into this more before I make a definitive stand on the issue.

Thanks for bringing this to light though!

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This is, if nothing else, interesting.

I believe that Hitler escaped, and that most of the images we have of him are body doubles. I think that Hitler's health was not as bad as reported, and if it was the wolfpack he ran around with would have culled the herd of its sickly member.

The Nazi's, if nothing else, were propaganda specialists. The world we live in today was created by them. A world where there is no real truth, only subterfuge. A world of people wholly confused about how to proceed because they have no idea how they actually got there in the first place. A world of distorted and controlled reality.

Thanks for the reading material. If you find a pic of this Coates guy, bring it back here for us.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by sheepslayer247

 

This is, if nothing else, interesting.

I believe that Hitler escaped, and that most of the images we have of him are body doubles. I think that Hitler's health was not as bad as reported, and if it was the wolfpack he ran around with would have culled the herd of its sickly member.

The Nazi's, if nothing else, were propaganda specialists. The world we live in today was created by them. A world where there is no real truth, only subterfuge. A world of people wholly confused about how to proceed because they have no idea how they actually got there in the first place. A world of distorted and controlled reality.

Thanks for the reading material. If you find a pic of this Coates guy, bring it back here for us.

Sure thing I've been investigating over the last few weeks so my information is very much in its primal stage. However if anymore information or pictures show up i'll be sure to post them here. I'm actually surprised this is first i've seen anything about on ATS.

reply to post by Whatifitdidhappen


you're not overthinking it. you've connected the dots, like many of us have.

it started well before modern times, but the most visible and real

conspiracy is the end of WW2 massive cover up and escape of thousands

of high ranking nazi's along with their secret technology. We stole around

1 million german patents as our own at the end of the war, but they

kept the best for themselves. The OSS (Alan Dulles) totally aided this process

in the name of containing Bolshevism. The creation of 'Nazi International' was

unstoppable once the amount of money (gold, gems, art, etc) hit switzerland

and other national banks per Bormann Aktion Feuerland. Multinational cartels

squirreled away billions in the process, governments were bought and sold

(ie., Perons, Franco) and the whole insipid, elite insiders world snowballed into

the avalanche of financial disasters, resource scarcity, and wars we have today -

I believe as a direct result of the shadow "fourth" Reich. Remember, the NSDAP

was formed from the Thule society, whose members had a mantra quite similar

to their American (Yale) offshoot, the skull and bones...

Could the descendants of the 3rd reich be waiting out current events, only to

resurface later, like a bad hollywood movie (Iron Sky?!).

reply to post by drphilxr


The Red House Report tends to point to a resounding "YES!" in answer to your questions.

THe Nazi's planned a 4th Reich, but instead of military might they planned to leverage socioeconomic might. We see that in the US the two were combined shortly after Truman warned about the Military Industrial Complex. It has been made appropriate what we do because we have the blessing of the worlds money: The Reserve Banking System. The biggest bunch of Fascists I have ever seen.

I thought this thread might be about this poor guy. Not trying to derail your thread. Hope you find the story interesting.

news.discovery.com...

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


One of the most interesting quotes about fascism comes from its poster boy,

Benito Mussolini:

"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger
of state and corporate power."

This is utterly nonsensical...

William Coates was black...

originally posted by: Whatifitdidhappen
I was searching through ATS and was actually surprised no one has brought this up only in passing. Aside from the Bush Connection does anyone know of any other sources for this claim?

I find it odd that

March 2, 2004; Clinton, MD ( AP) -- In the week since William Coates' death, his family has been arranging a funeral befitting a man purported to have lived for 114 years, which, if true, would have ranked him among the oldest people in the United States. But U.S. Census records indicate that Coates, who had been celebrated for his age in news stories and public proclamations, was no older than 92 when he died February 24th.

They would be wrong by 22 years and

None of Coates' relatives claimed he was 114 when he died last week. Rather, they have said they knew few details of his life. And they reacted Monday to the Census records with the same exasperation they expressed over the attention given to him upon his death. "I'm leaving it as it is," said Ann Hazel, 67, a Niece. As for her Uncle's purported age of 114, Hazel said, "Everyone who was older than me said he was about that age."

It is unclear who initially asserted that Coates was born in 1889. Irving H. Smith, Director of a Prince George's Senior Citizens Center who hosts an annual celebration for centenarians, has asserted that Coates was the county's oldest citizen. He said he based this on conversations with Coates' relatives and on records at the Clinton Nursing and Rehabilitation Center, where Coates spent his last years. The home confirmed that its records list Coates' birth date as June 2, 1889. But it's not clear where that information came from. " To be honest," Smith said, " about the only fact we know for sure is that he's dead."

William Coates

Also there doesnt seem to be any photos taken of him that i can find.

Just wanted to know your thoughts, if there is any credence to this i'm scared to think about all the other connections going as far back as the late 1880's

Coates was estranged from his family for over fifty years, hence his absence, In regards to censuses, you can access census records online - he's age 8 in 1920 and age 18 in 1930. His youngest child was 54....which suggested he had a kid at age 60 (highly unlikely). More a case of him just making stuff up about being 114 and "world's oldest person" than anything else.

A photo:

imgur.com...

This man looked nothing like Hitler