reply to post by mideast
Thanks for the responce, my friend, formost.
I agree with this:
Freedom and other aspects of life like social laws and constitutions are something precious.
And so I'll go into this, which I'm not sure the direction, but I can accept that as maybe not understanding that there is something bigger than a
language barrier,.... metaphorical missunderstandings I guess. I'll try my best though.
for example , suppose that my father is rich and I am a lazy son. He wants me to be active , then he buys me a new bicycle. Is that bike going to turn
me into a athletic ?
No, the bike is a tool, an object. It's meaningless. It would turn you no more into an athletic (outdoor type? sports?) than say a pet rock would
turn you into a responcible person, per say.
The object could be a football though, and it might. It's the gears behind it all that make it what it is. A loving father with no money or all the
money in the world, might have a son who's the brightest, quickest, sportiest, and turns out to be the richest son among many. Everyone has a
personal choice, however. So the gears turn on both sides, sometimes not always together.
Or suppose my father is rich and I am a flabby person. He wants me to be active and productive. Then he buys me a bike. Is it going to do any help
Once again, I would think the issue is the motivation behind the fact. Not just the object alone, perhaps, but even so, say the father gave the boy a
wii and only games that made the boy active. This might have the boy curious, and over time it could work. So you see, it's what's behind the
object and possibly the object itself.
though... one is love and the other is lust when you compare them. The boys lust for the game or the fathers love to push the boy and help the boy do
Which leads you to this I think...
btw , this is very pathetic form of freedom. While US installed and helped Saddam with WMDs , they decided to turn him down in one night.
This is where you loose me again. What can you say. Governments are governments. Yes, they turned their back on him because he didnt play ball.
But remember, he was playing ball at some point. When he left their wing, he played his own ball game. Same as any government, country, press,
company, sports, ect. But remember... As you might be "Iraq" or any other country, remember too, that I am also america. I dont agree with what my
government does, especially not now, but what shall I do? I'll vote but that will do what, exactly? I am not there to run the country because I
will never be a lawyer, I will never be heartless, I will never have the option and "duty" to take millions of lives at a whim.
I am america, but I am not my government. My government is most assuredly not me. I look at everything else as "fees" to live here and get as much
freedom as the wold today provides. It's just unfortunate that the bottom of the barrel remainings of freedom are still here and not plentiful here
or somewhere else, for surely I would be there.
And the freedom is the most pathetic thing , like changing room in a prison. Iraqis used to listen to Arabic music and they were adopted to their old
culture , now they are trying a new culture of liberalism.
liberalism = do what you will . There is no judgement day .
Ahhh yes... Culturalism. Ya see, I cant really comment on that because I myself do not truely understand the full of what comes of it. What does it
I have a culture too. Though, my culture is watered down by the "common" culture in the US, which does seem to change with music, Ill get to that
later. But having a culture seems to always breed some form of hatred or racism to those outside of it. Even some small form can be found. So
culturalism somewhat shares a fine line with racism I think. Maybe. See, I dont know honestly.
But.. Every person has a right to choose. This is freedom. This is also free will. Such as those people see new things they will run to them as we
do in our own country. Be it music, food, art, movies... that's entertainment.
I agree. Iraq is a torn country. So were we. Its population grown. We didnt build those phone lines and we surely didnt make them the way they are
now. War torn places are affected, but like you said, that country is rich. Those people have a say, dont they? Shouldnt they? Where the oil will
go and how it's used.
We do too, we just cant seem to use that power anymore in voting. Votes are done without us now.
But music, my friend.. People do gather with music for loves sake, no matter the music style. It's something to take hell off your mind. A peace of
freedom if you will, when you have none other.
I like that.