Crimes of Carnegie:
“Protest Against Condoning Crime in the
Name of Philanthropy,” says Eugene V. Debs.
by Eugene V. Debs
Published in Missouri Socialist [St. Louis], v. 1, no. 15 (April 13, 1901), pg. 2.
Many thousands of misguided people are applauding
the alleged philanthropy of Andrew Carnegie
and of these by far the larger number are
workingmen. Manifestly they have forgotten, or
they have never heard of the horrors of Homestead
— or perhaps they are too ignorant to understand
or too cowardly to profit by the bloody
The reckless prodigality of Carnegie with the
plunder of his victims brings into boldest prominence
the crimes he committed when they protested
against his monstrous rapacity. Then what?
An army of 300 Pinkerton mercenaries were hired
by this bloody benefactor to kill the men whose
labor had made him a millionaire. He did not have
the courage to execute his own murderous designs
so he commissioned another monster, Frick, by
name, with bloodless veins and a heart of steel, to
commit the crimes while he went to Europe and
held high carnival with the titled snobs there until
the ghastly work was done. It was one of the
foulest conspiracies ever concocted against the
working class and the very though of its atrocities,
after nearly 10 years, fires the blood and crimsons
the cheek with righteous indignation. Not
only were the Pinkerton murderers hired by Carnegie
to kill his employees, but he had his steel
works surrounded by wires charged with deadly
electric currents and by pipes filled with boiling
water so that in the event of a strike or lockout he
could shock the life out of their wretched bodies
or scald the flesh from their miserable bones.
And this is the man who proposes to erect
libraries for the benefit of the working class —
and incidentally for the glory of Carnegie.
Will the workingmen of this country accept
any gift from the hands of Andrew Carnegie, red
with the blood of their slain comrades? That some
of them have already done so is to their everlasting
shame. The employees who a few days ago
received, with expressions of gratitude, the bonded
booty, to be held in trust for them until they become
paupers, have debased themselves beyond
expression. They may have to work for Carnegie,
but they are not compelled to recognize as a gift
the pennies he throws them in return for the dollars
he stole from them, and when they do they
are guilty of treason to their murdered brothers,
and are better described as spineless poltroons than
as self-respecting workingmen.
Some years ago, when Carnegie endowed the first library for the alleged benefit of workingmen,I objected. And I object now with increased emphasis.
Such a library is monumental of the degeneracy
of the working class. It is a lasting rebuke to
their intelligence and their integrity.
The workingmen of New Castle have led the
revolt. Let their splendid example be followed
wherever a Carnegie library is suggested. Let mass
meetings of workingmen be held and let the horrifying
scenes of the Homestead massacre be presented to stir them to a sense of indignation at the vulgar and insulting display of the spoil exploited from their class.
Let honest workingmen everywhere protest
against the acceptance of a gift which condones
crime in the name of philanthropy. Let them put
themselves upon record in terms that appeal to
the honor of their class and the respect of all mankind.
We want libraries and we will have them in
glorious abundance when capitalism is abolished
and the workingmen are no longer robbed by the
philanthropic pirates of the Carnegie class.
Then the library will be as it should be, a
noble temple dedicated to culture and symbolizing
the virtues of the people.
March 30, 1901.
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Testing for geoengineering would be quite trivial realy - go take some samples of the air you think is contaminated with something, test it against het make up of air you think is not contaminated, figure out where the different contaminants come from.
conceptually that is all there is.
Of course flying aircraft around to take high altitude air samples isn't cheap - but it isn't millions either - there have been posts and threads on here occasionally pointing out how it could be done. There has been at least one person suggesting using balloons to take samples and requesting donations so far he's only got 4% of what he's after
chemtrail believers paid $50k for the mythumentary What in the world are they spraying, and even moer for the forthcoming "Why in the world are they spraying" - but apaprently are unwiling to bother gathering ACTUAL verifiable evidence......IMO probably becuse they don't want to know the truth.
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
NON NON NON !!! mon petite kiwi-chicken
OP is not debunking chemtrails
he is claiming geo-engineering is only theoretical
and no active experiments are occuring
[obviously hasn't used search ]
The question "Can geoengineering be tested?" is either trivially true or trivially false depending on what you mean by "tested".
If by "Can geoengineering be tested?" we mean "Is it in principle possible to perform tests that would give us more information about the likely consequences of an SRM deployment?", the answer is of course 'yes'.
If by this question we mean "Is it in principle possible to know everything one would like to know about the consequences of an SRM deployment prior to the deployment?", the answer is of course 'no'.
Fundamentally, this is no different than any test that is ever done of anything. Every test is designed to give us useful information; some tests are more useful than others; no test gives you the same information as a full deployment.
Originally posted by Pilot
reply to post by Uncinus
Thank you Uncinus for joining in on my thread - the person of Ken Caldeira in the video is of particular interest to us-you see because he was a very vocal environmentalist/anti-nuke activist in his youth, and is now the recipient of a LIFETIME endowment from Carnegie, a guy like that can surely be trusted by Chemmies who are so paranoid about the ethics of scientists of the establishment variety. I have a keen insight into the paranoid ravings of chemtrailers, so please use my experience as a chemtrail believer to advance your agenda. I extend my hand in friendship, and more!!
I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but your avatar is subliminally erotic. I wish everyone would just agree with us a stop all this delusional mistrust of authority - it's doggone pathological!!
I think it is not helpful to think of them as "enemies". I see these people as victims of past government lies and, in many cases, their own mental instability.
These people have been living under a government that has started secret wars, has secretly kidnapped and tortured people, and so on. They have lived under a government that has lied to them repeatedly.
These people have no technical background to distinguish ordinary jet contrails from paranoiac visions of massive government conspiracies. They see jet trails becoming more numerous over the decades and are too innumerate to associate this increase with increase in jet travel.
They have been taught that they cannot trust government statements, they certainly don't trust scientists, and now they are left with no source that they can trust (other than their like-minded fellow conspiracy theorists.)
I prefer to see these ChemTrails folks as victims, both of past government lies and, in many cases I suspect, of some degree of mental illness.
So, let's not look at them as "enemies", but as people who need help.
In the last 10 minutes, geoengineer Ken Calderia is confronted with evidence of toxic spraying by congressional candidate John Fitzgerald. Calderia refuses to answer and hurries away.