And now the people of Japan are angry...Finally! 200,000+ Protest but little MSM Coverage.

And Japan being the only nation to suffer any nuclear attack in recorded history. In fact they've had two. Three even if you count Fukushima! If I lived there I would be protesting too! Respect and admiration for the people of Japan.

reply to post by jude11

hi jude

you mean the north koreans are in on it?
or that your common sense isn't tingling?

now now
i expect much better from you

just follow the links here's another with pics and graphs that sums it all up:
educate-yourself.org...

I hypothesize that the situation at Fukushima is not being properly assessed by facility controllers because STUXNET is STILL giving false readings to the control panels, readings which obviously have to be false because they show containment pressure when confidental leaked photographs prove beyond a doubt no containment exists AT ALL at reactor 3. There is not even a reactor there.

This report is perfectly inaccurate with regard to reactor 3 containment. Perhaps the people who wrote this report have not actually looked at the facility or seen the confidential photographs.

This report supports what I have said here entirely. It was written by an experienced reactor operator. I found this on May 10. I was absolutely right!

Each reactor has 8 separate emergency backup systems, each capable of saving the reactor on it's own. Three are designed to function perfectly if all power is lost and even the generators fail. Fukushima did not need any electrical systems operating AT ALL to keep itself from blowing up, when power is lost steam from the reactors is automatically diverted from the generator turbines to two totally separate steam turbines connected to totally separate water pumps needing only reactor steam to power them. Even that backup system has dual redundancy, only one of the two is needed for the job. But the valves which have to activate to re-divert the steam, all 6 valves on a total of 3 fueled reactors, eventually failed to. At reactors 1 and 3 these systems worked, but switched off at reactor 1 within an hour and off at reactor 3 after running for more than two days. No one has been able to explain why these systems switched off all by themselves, when they need a powered command to switch off. At reactor 2 they were never allowed to activate. This can only happen if the control system tells them to shut off or stay off, absent intervention from the controller they automatically and seamlessly switch cooling modes to passive rather than electrical.

Some readers may remember that the real issue at Fukushima was malfunctioning valves, and the need to get someone past the radiation to open them. These are the valves that were spoken of. Because Stuxnet kept the readouts normal, no one knew this system did not function until major problems happened as a result flooding the area where the valves are with radiation. This prevented last ditch efforts (running and cutting the wires). One automatic valve jamming and mechanically failing would be a surprise,6 failing can only be sabotage.

In addition to this, another completely independent separately piped backup with an entirely different electronic decision tree which injects borated water at a pre charged 3,500 PSI into the reactor to irrevocably shut down all chain reactions (reactor rebuild required) also simultaneously failed at all 3 fueled reactors. The borated water systems have explosive operated valves so reliable that even one out of 3 failing would be a ten thousand to one possiblity, if that. The reliability of the borated water systems is technically theoretically assured. All three failing at the same time at Fukushima can only mean sabotage.

High pressure in all of the reactors proves the quake did not damage any of the infrastructure at fukushima because any leaks would have let the pressure go. In addition to this, the seismic readings at Fukushima were 6.07 Fukushima was designed to handle being at the epicenter of an 8.

The media keeps harping about how all the water went away. It only did because these three backup systems were prevented from cooling the reactor which caused the water to boil off and never be replaced. High pressures were talked about constantly in the press; This means beyond a doubt that all 6 steam powered backup systems were intact, and all 3 borated water systems were intact also because if they were not the pressure would have escaped through them. Absent emergency backup control power keeping the virus alive; (control power Magna BSP admitted was there the whole time by mistake when they said their cameras and supporting computers captured the explosions and maintained a data link) the valves which control these systems would have opened when the generators failed and there would have been no disaster. 3 worst case scenarios where all 9 automatic valves across 9 separate emergency backup systems are held shut by the controller when no power should have been present to prevent them from activating can only mean sabotage.

very large signal to noise ratio this fukushima matter

Originally posted by FissionSurplus
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

 

Whether Chemoshima is a psy-ops or not, nuclear energy is a bad idea, a left-over from the 50s, a dinosaur from a time when issues like nuclear waste didn't matter.

The depleted uranium used in modern bullets and bombs is the only use for this left-over, poisonous garbage. Surely we have progressed as humans past the point of using such out-dated technology.

As far as them going to natural gas, please note:

Japan relies on LNG imports for virtually all of its natural gas demand and is the world’s largest LNG importer.

205.254.135.7...

Note they have no natural gas of their own, and it has to be liquified from somewhere else in order to be imported to them. Not very cost efficient. They'd have to be suckers to allow other countries to psy-op them in that way, just to make them import more LNG.

I can perhaps see the leaders of that country thinking that starting these plants up is the cheapest way to get the country back up to full power, as they have 55 nuclear plants in that country, but Japan has suffered under the curse of radiation from one form or the other for a while now, I guess maybe they're just tired of it hanging over their head like the sword of Damocles.

oh,i'm as anti nuclear as you are however , it's a lot worse than, that ma'am
Thorium is a superior fuel [though i'd prefer ZPE/Tesla]
this has been known since the beginning
however, since they couldn't make nuclear weapons out of the products of thorium reactors...

meanwhile the nuke-power industry found cheap ways for dealing with their waste:
dump it in somebody else's yard by making bullets and bomb casings out of DU [depleted Uranium]
those "pirates" in somalia know a thing or 2 about the matter as well

however coal nat gas and fracking are IMHO just as or even dirtier

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

you mean the north koreans are in on it? or that your common sense isn't tingling? now now i expect much better from you

um..North Korea? I'm lost on this one...sorry. Where did that come from?

And my statement actually means that it doesn't really matter if it's all a play or not. What matters is that the Japanese people don't want it and they are fighting to not have it. The reality is they believe it.

That was the point of the OP.

Do I agree that all is not what it seems? Of course! I'm a good little ATS'er!

Maybe we got our wires crossed somewhere?

Peace

reply to post by jude11


frankly i'm surprised they allowed those plants to be built in the 1st place

hmmm GE built those plants
and seeing as they own NBC...

y'know what would be a great idea?

ATS's owners should send OC and a few specialists[ "yes, we've detected radiation, but its the wrong type for a case like this,,, "] and check for themselves
if i remember correctly we even have a member studying Bujutsu over in japan [possible ninja?]

that'd be denying...

oh wait, OC got him self arrested for doing a jesse ventura at a base and was promptly banned
oh well it was an idea


edit to add
sorry jude
the psyops is strong today,
hence the 'tude
as it looked like more of the same

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by jude11

 

frankly i'm surprised they allowed those plants to be built in the 1st place

hmmm GE built those plants
and seeing as they own NBC...

y'know what would be a great idea?

ATS's owners should send OC and a few specialists[ "yes, we've detected radiation, but its the wrong type for a case like this,,, "] and check for themselves
if i remember correctly we even have a member studying Bujutsu over in japan [possible ninja?

]

that'd be denying...

oh wait, OC got him self arrested for doing a jesse ventura at a base and was promptly banned
oh well it was an idea


edit to add
sorry jude
the psyops is strong today,
hence the 'tude
as it looked like more of the same

edit on 1-7-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)

All Good! May the Force...Blah, Blah, Blah...

Anyhoo, been following OC on YT and now www.activistpost.om

Looks like he's still going at it and mad as ever!

*sniff* I miss him...

Peace

reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

where are the thousands of sick, dying, and dead people from radiation poisoning?? nowhere fukushima is a psyops

The "radiation poisoning" will happen years down the road when masses of people start showing up at cancer clinics fighting for their health and their lives. Radioactive contamination takes a long time before it starts showing its physical devastation on one's body, and by then its a horrible nightmare.

Why don't you educate yourself by going to visit a huge cancer institute, walk around and hear all the stories of the people there who are of all ages, walks of life, and ethnicities fighting for themselves or their loved ones, and everything they have to go through, then think about why radioactive contamination is such a horrible fate to expose anyone to. No, there may not be thousands dead, yet, but a far more nightmarish fate waits them down the road.

Originally posted by RoyalBlue
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger

 

where are the thousands of sick, dying, and dead people from radiation poisoning?? nowhere fukushima is a psyops

The "radiation poisoning" will happen years down the road when masses of people start showing up at cancer clinics fighting for their health and their lives. Radioactive contamination takes a long time before it starts showing its physical devastation on one's body, and by then its a horrible nightmare.

Why don't you educate yourself by going to visit a huge cancer institute, walk around and hear all the stories of the people there who are of all ages, walks of life, and ethnicities fighting for themselves or their loved ones, and everything they have to go through, then think about why radioactive contamination is such a horrible fate to expose anyone to. No, there may not be thousands dead, yet, but a far more nightmarish fate waits them down the road.

As after the bombs dropped decades ago, it took years for the real numbers to show.

Great post and thank you for denying ignorance.

Peace

reply to post by RoyalBlue



out of all the info i posted that's all you can latch your unsubstantiated argument + a tearjerking emotional[irrational] appeal on?
educate myself indeed
here's another couple of links [though i'm sure nobody will bother to read them]

educate-yourself.org...

Here is a link to a Tokyo radiation monitoring site located in the Shinjuku area. Note that the highest reading occurred briefly on March 15, but quickly returned to near- normal levels for every day since. This chart covers up to March 19, but you can access the latest chart by visiting the link.

monitoring.tokyo-eiken.go.jp...

reply to post by jude11


sigh, i quit


Overcoming the Japan Radiation Propaganda 'Tsunami' Is An Uphill Battle

reply to post by FissionSurplus


It would appear that every major nation has had some notable uprisings and dissent within the last year or so.

I'm sure we dont hear about most of it. The divide between the people and the government entities grow every day.

With all the bank and political resignations we've also seen, one wonders what the next six months holds...

1 hopes their SPIRITS REMAIN STRONG, in the face of the ignorance going on over there. Respects

whhoops meant to reply to the royal blues identical post on another thread

reply to post by RoyalBlue


ok time too wake up,,



Environment Pollution
Date/Time: Monday, 02 July, 2012 at 03:53 (03:53 AM) UTC

"radioactive cesium was found in the urine samples from 141 infants and young children living in Fukushima Prefecture,"

its already to late obviously,, are u are still saying,,OHHHITS YEARS DOWN THE ROAD!!!!
WAKE THE # UP!

hisz.rsoe.hu...

So, what would be alternative for nuclear energy?

Coal? Coal plants cause much worse radiation and even more dangerous particles that go deep inside your lungs and you get cancer?

Wind energy? Components are expensive and lot of electricity is needed to make them, though they make more energy than use, but it takes long time. Not to mention that wind turbines kill thousands of birds and its known that blades can easily break in storms, sending them almost 2 km away, destroying anything that gets on their way.

Water power? How many people are forced to move away from dams? How many people live in areas what would be destroyed completely by broken dam? Water moves so fast that there is no escape if dam breaks, its lot worse than tsunami.

Solar? Great concept, though if you want power industry, you need to build army of solar panels. Solar power only works if panels are built to space or to moon, then converted electricity to microwaves, then beamed to receivers on Earth. This would solve our energy problems, but its very expensive project. Solar panels on moon can work forever in theory

Nuclear power is very versatile, around 99% of nuclear waste can be recycled and used again, though this requires special plant. And instead of Uranium, we can use Thorium, which is safer and more abundant. Thorium reaction makes 10 000 times less nuclear waste than uranium reaction. Thorium doesn't need enrichment, it can be used instantly. Thorium chain reaction can be stopped instantly (meaning no meltdown risk). Handling Thorium is also safe, its radiation doesn't penetrate skin, though you need gas mask because of its aerosols. It actually sounds too good to be true, but downside is that there is only prototype plants and technology is expensive. Oil industry might try to slow these projects down too. Its interesting that India invests most on this technology.

surprised that this protest caught western attention ... theres been many protests in japan - larger ones against u.s occupation .. various internal matters ... and fukushima in recent years ...

protests in japan can - and at times do turn into outright battles between the people and the police worst ones I saw were back in the 70's ...

unlike in the west matters are settled quickly and quietly in most cases ... hope this doesnt end up like the protests that saw in the 70s ...

reply to post by Thebel


without doing any thinking for over a second we have geothermal heating which just uses the heat from the earth, Emil Jahr's ground battery and who knows what Tesla ended up with.

reply to post by Expat888


red brigades.

I dont know what Japan have done to deserve all this nuclear misery I was speaking to a nuclear scientist the other day who had seen the memo which had the order to bomb Hiroshima after the war had finished.

plus the Fukushima disaster was done intentionally as the disaster was put into the football scores the week before the disaster

I sort of already posted this, but I guess my title sucked:

www.abovetopsecret.com...