reply to post by seeker1963
When I say State, I mean the Federal Government as in Statist.
stat·ism (sttzm)
n.
The practice or doctrine of giving a centralized government control over economic planning and policy.
Progressives, liberals, social democrats are basically Statist. They change their name over the years as people figure out their agenda is essentially
anti-freedom. They want the State(Government) to have more control over the individual.
For instance Bloomberg wanting to stop people from ordering super sized drinks or Obama wanting to ration healthcare through the IPAB. Statist want a
more powerful Government and a more controlled society.
At the Heart of all this is Marxism. Obama learned his brand of Marxism in College and under Reverend Wright. Black Liberation Theology is Marxism.
Black Liberation Theology is the Christian version of the Nation of Islam. This is why Wright gave Farrakhan an award and he went to Libya with
Farrakhan. This is why Obama talks about things like Collective Salvation for the Country. Obama said his personal Salvation depends on Collective
Salvation for the Country. Imagine if Bush would have talked about Collective Salvation for the Country.
At the Heart of all this is everyone who is rich (except them) is an oppressor. Therefore they need to take from the evil rich and put in place these
big government programs that will help poor people live better because the Government will be making decisions for them.
The reason this doesn't work and this goes to the Founders wisdom, is that men are essentially corrupt especially when they have more power over the
individual. So when you give Government all this power it does very little to help people.
Look at all the money spent on poverty. Ride through a poor neighborhood and you see nothing but hoplessness and despair. Look at the money spent on
education and then look at the result.
Here's a report on poverty in America.
America is getting poorer. The U.S. government has just released a bunch of new statistics about poverty in America, and once again this year the
news is not good. According to a special report from the U.S. Census Bureau, 46.2 million Americans are now living in poverty. The number of those
living in poverty in America has grown by 2.6 million in just the last 12 months, and that is the largest increase that we have ever seen since the
U.S. government began calculating poverty figures back in 1959. Not only that, median household income has also fallen once again. In case you are
keeping track, that makes three years in a row. According to the U.S. Census Bureau, median household income in the United States dropped 2.3% in
2010 after accounting for inflation. Overall, median household income in the United States has declined by a total of 6.8% once you account for
inflation since December 2007. So should we be excited that our incomes are going down and that a record number of Americans slipped into poverty
last year? Should we be thrilled that the economic pie is shrinking and that our debt levels are exploding? All of those that claimed that the U.S.
economy was recovering and that everything was going to be just fine have some explaining to do.
Back in the year 2000, 11.3% of all Americans were living in poverty. Today, 15.1% of all Americans are living in poverty. The last time the poverty
level was this high was back in 1993.
theeconomiccollapseblog.com...
The reason this is the case goes back to why the Founders wanted limited Government. This is because no matter how well intentioned those in
Government claim they are, they're corrupt because of the power and control they have over others so the more power you give them the worse it will
be for the individual.
Much of the money they spend on these programs will be used to enrich there friends and political contributers. How many poor people do you see around
politicians? Limit Government. Reduce the scope and size of Government and always give the individual more control. Will many individuals make bad
choices? Of course but I would rather allow people to live by the dictates of their own Conscious rather than the Dictates a big, corrupt Government
ran by crooked politicians.
All I meant by my post was the issue of using the word "State" in a manner that may
be confusing to others! 
