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The Communist Menace Escaping Notice

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posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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This is a purely speculative piece, based on observation of recent trends in the United States.

The US is being drawn into a Communistic form of society, being perpetuated by the least suspected group: The Republican Party of the United States.

Consider:

Point 1: The Republican Party (hereafter GOP) favors an economic system that concentrates power and wealth at the top fringe of the society, with that elite letting "the appropriate" amount of prosperity trickle down to the remaining huge proportion of the population.

This is what has been seen in pretty much every Communist country in history... the current Communist countries exemplify this - North Korea, China - the top 1 or 2% of the elite of these countries controls the vast majority of the wealth there.

Point 2: The GOP favors a domestic police force whose job is to suppress all forms of dissent that show possibility of truly unseating the elite, while encouraging or ignoring those that appear to be protest but actually further entrench the ruling elite. Consider the different police responses to the Tea Baggers and the Occupy movement.

This is also what we see in places like NK and China... the police are little more than an enforcement arm for the elite. A member of the elite and a "commoner" who perform the exact same behaviors are treated significantly differently by the security forces.

Point 3: The GOP favors a foreign policy where the US military is enforcing US economic and corporate policy around the world, to the benefit of the ruling elite and under the excuse of "protecting" the citizenry.

The best example of this is the former Soviet Union. The SU had its military all over the place, for the benefit of the ruling SU elite, under the guise of "protecting" the country. At least the SU elite had very recent examples of a real need for this, which we in the US do not. It is nothing more or less than another mechanism to preserve the privileges of the ruling elite.

Point 4: The GOP favors a "news" system that is nothing other than a mouthpiece for the elite's propaganda. The tripe that spews from Fox News is nothing approaching anything real, just propaganda. The Democrats also do this, but they are not as accomplished at it.

Again, examine the "news" services of places like NK and China and the former SU.

Point 5: The GOP has orchestrated a nation-wide, coordinated effort to disenfranchise large numbers of eligible voters in the US. This philosophy of having "elections" but controlling the outcome is another trait of Communist societies. Most Communist countries don't even pretend to have elections and those that do control the outcome very stringently. The GOP is heading in this direction.


In conclusion, I see frequent charges and panics that Obama is "leading us to Socialism". I submit that this is more propaganda, and that the real threat is a Communistic take over of US society, engineered by the Republican Party.




posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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I think the Democratic Party has engaged in all of the above.

Recently, since January 2007 practically unabated.

Of course, all the ultra left wing policies and associations with all the progressive groups may just be "window dressing" perhaps ?

They seem to be extremely vocal on their agendas.



posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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Oh goody, another GOP bashing thread. Rather than aiming at the GOP, how about zooming out a little and including democrats? Isn't the government as a whole guilty of all you suggest?

How about you take your liberal blinders off?



posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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In other words it's time to stop associating dems with the Left. The dems left us lefties in the dust on the march to the Right, just took a while for us to realize it.

Though I wouldn't necessarily call it Communism. It seems our problems lay in the Authoritarian if you want to get to the root of tyranny. The Right and the Left just take different paths to get there.
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posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Those regimes were not communist. What you're walking into there in the US now is totalitarianism (or at least that how it looks from here).

Communism is about common ownership and assuring an even wealth distribution. The latter is also an aspect of socialism.

Read a lot more about these things before applying labels.



posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 11:40 AM
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F&S for a well drawn conclusion. I couldn't agree with you more!

I've been saying for some time that the modern day TP/GOP is the party of opposites. By that, I mean that the actual truth is the exact opposite of what they profess. Every time they accuse the democrats/liberals of committing some evil act or promoting communistic/socialistic policies, they are in fact telling us exactly what they themselves are currently doing.

Remember the old saying; "The guilty dog always barks first."

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posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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True enough but I'm assuming the OP is referring to that stage when things are supposed to be turned over to communism but never actually makes it there, which always leaves me with the conclusion that the Soviet Union was Fascist as opposed to Socialist.



posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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It is my considered opinion that the GOP is the worse offender here. I have plenty of problems with the Democratic party as well, but quite frankly I do not believe the Democratic Machine has the competence to pull this off in the way the Republicans are. The Democrats are not as inclined to march in step as are Republicans. An effort like this takes massive organizational skills and communication control. The Republicans are masters at that, the Democrats are not. They try, and they are not entirely incompetent, but they are rank amateurs compared to the GOP.

This is based on observation of both parties' behavior over the years. I am not now and have never been affiliated with any political party.

Many do try to put me in the "Liberal" box and I do in fact hold many positions that are considered liberal or even (gasp) Progressive.

Many also try to put me in the "Conservative" box and I do in fact hold many positions that are considered conservative or even (gasp) Strongly Conservative.



posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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L
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keep looking for communists under your bed

while fundamentalist fanatics stealthily conspire to sneak in a theocracy thru the back door

and get a clue, the current POSUS is a fascist

they are all reptilian/psychopathic trash



posted on Jul, 1 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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reply to post by Kali74
 


Good catch and agreed.


I have stated multiple times that it is my opinion that the quality of people implementing a form of government have more to do with the success or failure of that government as measured by the quality of life for the population in general than does the form of government itself.

Interestingly enough, the dictionary meanings of communism and socialism are pretty near identical, with socialism being the "larger" concept:



1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods


And also agreed that those forms of government were totalitarian, without regard to the economic model. From the dictionary definitions, it would be entirely possible to have a Communist based government that also happened to have freely elected, citizen representatives that actually represent the population.

I see the "communist" and "socialist" fear words thrown around a lot, which got me to thinking on what "communist" governments so far in history really were/are, and where we are headed. And my opinion on the organization most responsible.

And on reading those dictionary entries I was especially interested by this one, from the Socialism entry:


3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done


Which is a dead-on description of the current economic situation in the US. Created and maintained by the policies of the Republican party.



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