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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by jiggerj
This is the "flatlander" story. I think you can read the book for free online. If you can't find it, i should have it somewhere on this hard drive. You can U2U me.
RE: a single dimension "space"....this would seem to be the real of "God". If consciousness could exist without form, it would exist in this place. It could be aware, but its awareness would be only self aware. The reason for this is, in a single dimension space, there is nothing else that can exist but "self", as you are the entirety of that space. You are infinitely large and infinitely small simultaneously.
Nothing would preclude a single dimension space. I would actually tend to support such thinking, at least until I can meditate on it, as it would make more sense as to how/why God, the "Creator", can be the Universe in our reality. If "he" existed in a one dimensional space, or rather AS a one dimensional space, then the timeless state that he would find himself in would mean that he exists in such a state at this very moment. That, my friend, brings up all sorts of philosophical questions, like whether or not we are currently existing in this 1 dimensional state in the form of what could only be described as "a dream".?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by jiggerj
What I meant is that, in my view, God is the canvas on which God the painter paints God the painting.
Originally posted by jiggerj
Originally posted by spy66
I will give a a new image.
In this image; is the straight line the first physical dimension?
If so; What dimension would the physical dark background be?
Is this premise even possible? If there is an exterior condition to one dimension, then no matter how flat, short, and narrow it is, it would still be a three-dimensional proposition. That dark void would have to allow for the line's length, width, and height, so the void itself would also be 3-D.
So I'm thinking that either a single dimension isn't possible, or if there were a single dimension, then that's all that could exist.
Is this premise even possible? If there is an exterior condition to one dimension, then no matter how flat, short, and narrow it is, it would still be a three-dimensional proposition.
So I'm thinking that either a single dimension isn't possible, or if there were a single dimension, then that's all that could exist.
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by jiggerj
I don't mean that we are proof of God. What I meant is that, in my view, God is the canvas on which God the painter paints God the painting. All is one. I know you don't want debate, i just want to clarify.
RE: the number 3....there were great minds that have contemplated what you are talking about for millenia. We have the writings of some of them that you can reference. A good start is Manly P Hall, as he has a compendium of various writings compiled in The Secret Teachings Of All Ages.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
also i dont know why you can biasly say that our universe resides in infinite space,,,,,,,,
our universe can be a pond in a world with many seas.....
your like a fish in the ocean telling his buddies the ocean just goes on forever,,, theres nothing beyond,,edit on 3-7-2012 by ImaFungi because: (no reason given)
first of all I always thought the example of the first dimension is a point,,,,,,, the tiniest point,,,,, which means the first dimension is impossible,,,,, because the point would have to be literally the tiniest and most indivisible dot,.,.,, which oddly enough is what all material is made of,,,,,,, to take up every space of the infinite of space,,, solid matter must densely fill all of the space in an area to create a stable energetic, physical structure.,,,,,,
Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by ImaFungi
first of all I always thought the example of the first dimension is a point,,,,,,, the tiniest point,,,,, which means the first dimension is impossible,,,,, because the point would have to be literally the tiniest and most indivisible dot,.,.,, which oddly enough is what all material is made of,,,,,,, to take up every space of the infinite of space,,, solid matter must densely fill all of the space in an area to create a stable energetic, physical structure.,,,,,,
Prove to me that the tiny point you mention can exist or even be a tiny point without the space i am talking about.
If you can do that you can call my theory a bias.
Just for the hell of it. How would you know that the tiny point is tiny? Tiny compared to what? The space surrounding it?
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by Itisnowagain
"The screen alone is pure awareness and it is what you experience in deep sleep - nothing."
the absence of experience,,,,, or the experience of constant nothing,,, is the opposite of awareness,,,,,, awareness needs "something" to be aware of,,,,,, at least it needs itself to be aware of,,,,, our awareness is a technology and works by the functioning of mechanisms
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by jiggerj
You know, the problem with me speaking in clear terms on this is two fold. The first is that I honestly think in abstracts and metaphors. I will mix metaphors like no tomorrow because in my mind that is how i have built understanding. So when I type, sometimes what I say is abundantly clear. Sometimes it isn't.
The second issue is that as you read more and more into the literature (and as you find that magical "7 iterations of meaning" in the symbols), you find yourself thinking of the content in several contexts at once. With someone like me who thinks metaphorically, this is a recipe for disaster when trying to explain to other people.
Regardless, I am glad you found it helpful. I was once an atheist. I have since decided that Atheism is superior to common theism because the atheist has begun to think for him/herself. IT is the first step in the process: eschewing the God of your ancestors. It shows that you ahve a free and critical mind.
The next step is the realization that there IS a God, and he is us/everything. Keep searching, my friend. There are many paths to the same city.
Originally posted by ImaFungi
or a computer can calculate almost infinite numbers,,,forever,,, yet where the computer is making the calculations is in a contained area...
or a computer can calculate almost infinite numbers,,,forever,,, yet where the computer is making the calculations is in a contained area...
could that tiny point not exist if this universe was in a snowglobe?
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by ImaFungi
reply to post by Itisnowagain
"The screen alone is pure awareness and it is what you experience in deep sleep - nothing."
the absence of experience,,,,, or the experience of constant nothing,,, is the opposite of awareness,,,,,, awareness needs "something" to be aware of,,,,,, at least it needs itself to be aware of,,,,, our awareness is a technology and works by the functioning of mechanisms
You speak of consciousness. To be conscious one has to see or know what appears to be other. Awareness is the one constant, consciousness comes and goes. Awareness has to be prior to consciousness.